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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Probably best that fans don't worry that much on player loyalty....otherwise they will be quickly disappointed. I think it's best that people ask themselves that if another company offered them a higher wage and a perceived step up in status would they turn it down.....I think a high percent wouldn't. Reading and QPR and Blackburn could make the same arguments over Olise, Eze and Wharton. The club is always going to matter far more to us fans than the players because it's only ever a select few who buy into the club loyalty aspect.....Cannon, Freedman and so on. Both should have probably played more for Scotland but we also probably represented their level as well....just the top end of it. Players are employees of a business that we care about. I don't think we blame the players for moving on just as players shouldn't blame the club for letting them go. It's only a contention when they go out of their way to insult us. Edited by Stirlingsays (22 Jun 2024 4.15pm) Spot on, players come and go, managers, chairman, owners also, it’s only us fans who are here 30/40/50/60 years. Even players you could consider loyal like Jim Cannon, Julian Speroni and Wilf are only around for a brief time compared to most supporters.
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Originally posted by mtp1958
Surprised but there must be add on's we don't know , also is our man in change happy to lose him , its a big move so don't pick on him and we don't know the injury's he has had , good luck to him , it could be a great deal or a big mistake , will wait on that . Maybe this is the only major loss , drums are already beating all others are bigger money moves , which will stop clubs COYP No i dont think so , 60 million was always quoted from day one . 45 mill plus 5 mill addons in pounds comes to just about bang on 60 million euros , yes good luck to him . Hope his ham makes it through the medical . I personally think when his contract was negotiated it should have been 70 mill pounds not euros, he is worth at least that . So its back to no wingers for us .
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Originally posted by Eagle-Trucker
No i dont think so , 60 million was always quoted from day one . 45 mill plus 5 mill addons in pounds comes to just about bang on 60 million euros , yes good luck to him . Hope his ham makes it through the medical . I personally think when his contract was negotiated it should have been 70 mill pounds not euros, he is worth at least that . So its back to no wingers for us . Well, he wasn't really a winger under Glasner, Munoz did that as a RWB, he was, alongside Eze allowed to roam behind Mateta.
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Originally posted by Plaistow Eagle
Stand back and look at this in the cold light of day..!! Olise is 22 - already has a not insignificant history of serious hamstring issues, that’s only going to get worse as he gets older. He played 19 games for us last season - if you believe the threads we offered an improved contract, Chelsea were priced out due to wage demands - apparently wanted to be the highest paid player at Chelsea..!! So clearly Bayern are prepared to meet those wage demands - so the move is all about wages and personal gain..!! Put it this way if say we offered 150K a week and Olise accepted it - how would we feel if he only played 19 games next season due to hamstring problems. I look at this way - we don’t want another Zaha situation - we are no longer a one player team, yes Olise is good but irreplaceable - no - in fact looks like we’ve already identified his replacement in Antonio Nusa - looks very good available at 25M and 3 years younger..!! It was obvious when we took the 150M loan for transfers - that was based upon that there would be incoming transfer revenue..!! Quality in depth was our problem last season - with the money from the Ollse deal - get Nusa in, another left back and attacking midfielder/striker in - add that to Riad and Kamada and everything else we have - we have far more quality in depth..!! Remember Doucoure missed most of last season and we still are yet to see the best/how good Franca is - both will be like new signings next season..!! In summary if Olise wants to go and chase personal gain in a substandard league good luck to him - meantime we will be fine and if anything stronger..!! COYP Yep - spot on !!
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Originally posted by eagleman13
Well, he wasn't really a winger under Glasner, Munoz did that as a RWB, he was, alongside Eze allowed to roam behind Mateta. Potato Potarto ( argumentative bell end )
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PSG are now rumored to be putting in a 60 mill bid for him [Link]
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Originally posted by steeleye20
To break up the Olise-Mateta-Eze combination would be a seripus mistake imo, I have heard all the commentators all saying if we retain our top players we could mount a challenge. Our expectations must be less. Do we ever want to succeed in the PL, or not?
Gutted as well but we aren’t a powerhouse, yet anyway. However, we are improving all the time, don’t lose the faith. One day we will be in a position where we don’t have to lose our best players. Still can see us breaking into the top 7 next season.
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Originally posted by Eagle-Trucker
Potato Potarto ( argumentative bell end ) Ooo, get you florence
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Originally posted by Plaistow Eagle
Olise is 22 - already has a not insignificant history of serious hamstring issues, that’s only going to get worse as he gets older. So clearly Bayern are prepared to meet those wage demands - so the move is all about wages and personal gain..!!
COYP I think it is quite a stretch (pi) that his hamstring issues are going to get worse. Lessons will be learned from Hodgson's error Bayern are in the Champions League. We are not and neither are the most closely linked EPL clubs, Man U and Chelsea. Bayern are almost guaranteed an ongoing spot (5 clubs from Germany currently get in) unlike the English clubs mentioned. The German league is hardly sub-standard with Dortmund and Bayern reaching this years Champions League and Leverkusen the final of the Europa At the end of last season, Olise confirmed that he is an outstanding player under Glasner's system. He is one of the best players ever to pull on a shirt Without the release clause many supporters would have valued hi at, say, 80 million. I don't know what Reading's cut is but we probably have just north of 45 million available. Good luck getting a like-for-like replacement at that price: although Freedman is as likely as getting it done as anyone Bottom line, Olise has gone both for money and to challenge himself at the highest level. He is a great loss both in terms of points but also enjoyment from a skill level. Palace did all they could reasonably do to keep him and we have to keep our fingers crossed it ends up not mattering
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I'm hearing he's not going
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Originally posted by the silurian
unlike Zaha who was Palace through and through (until the last year or two), Olise was never Palace, just here for the money! Fans need to realise that players dont care who they play for, its all about the money Some dont even like football Danny Rose and Ben White come to mind, they just happen to be good at it. Edited by Painter (22 Jun 2024 8.51pm)
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Originally posted by Plaistow Eagle
Stand back and look at this in the cold light of day..!! Olise is 22 - already has a not insignificant history of serious hamstring issues, that’s only going to get worse as he gets older. He played 19 games for us last season - if you believe the threads we offered an improved contract, Chelsea were priced out due to wage demands - apparently wanted to be the highest paid player at Chelsea..!! So clearly Bayern are prepared to meet those wage demands - so the move is all about wages and personal gain..!! Put it this way if say we offered 150K a week and Olise accepted it - how would we feel if he only played 19 games next season due to hamstring problems. I look at this way - we don’t want another Zaha situation - we are no longer a one player team, yes Olise is good but irreplaceable - no - in fact looks like we’ve already identified his replacement in Antonio Nusa - looks very good available at 25M and 3 years younger..!! It was obvious when we took the 150M loan for transfers - that was based upon that there would be incoming transfer revenue..!! Quality in depth was our problem last season - with the money from the Ollse deal - get Nusa in, another left back and attacking midfielder/striker in - add that to Riad and Kamada and everything else we have - we have far more quality in depth..!! Remember Doucoure missed most of last season and we still are yet to see the best/how good Franca is - both will be like new signings next season..!! In summary if Olise wants to go and chase personal gain in a substandard league good luck to him - meantime we will be fine and if anything stronger..!! COYP Excellent post.
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Originally posted by eag-les
I'm hearing he's not going There will perhaps be other bids. I've always thought he'd want to go to PSG or Man U. Obviously Bayern would tempt most but there's the French connection and there could still be silly offers from Man U or similar. We don't need to sell him right now - early days.
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Originally posted by eag-les
I'm hearing he's not going Where did you hear that from ?
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