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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 17 Jul 23 10.26am

Originally posted by the silurian

He won't answer because he has no idea how....I've asked three times with no reply!

I haven’t noticed any questions from you, though to be fair I tend to ignore your “contributions”. What is it you are asking?

Just checked. You made this claim before.

I responded on 14th July at 11.33.

I answered, even if you either disagree or cannot understand.


Edited by Wisbech Eagle (17 Jul 2023 10.38am)

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 17 Jul 23 10.47am

Originally posted by georgenorman

I think that the majority of allegations of 'institutional racism' are myths - more of a problem is such nonsense as 'unconscious bias' (as agreed by the outgoing chair of the Institute of Race Relations, Colin Prescod, who stepped down after 43 years earlier this year).

It seems that there is a case for believing that the BBC turned a blind eye and in some cases covered up.

That the racism can result from an “unconscious bias” doesn’t mean it neither exists or that it’s not throughout an institution. It merely means the ways to eradicate it are different. It could be argued that there is institutional racism throughout society as a result of unconscious bias!

The lack of any actual evidence for the assertions that the BBC turned a blind eye or covered up has already been explained at length. Innuendo and tabloid headlines do not equal evidence.


Edited by Wisbech Eagle (17 Jul 2023 11.18am)

 


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Teddy Eagle Flag 17 Jul 23 10.54am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

That the racism can result from an “unconscious bias” doesn’t mean it neither exists or that it’s not throughout an institution. It merely means the ways to irradiate it are different. It could be argued that there is institutional racism throughout society as a result of unconscious bias!

The lack of any actual evidence for the assertions that the BBC turned a blind eye or covered up has already been explained at length. Innuendo and tabloid headlines do not equal evidence.

But the people you've spoken to on holiday equal enough evidence to confirm your bias.

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards georgenorman Flag 17 Jul 23 11.10am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

That the racism can result from an “unconscious bias” doesn’t mean it neither exists or that it’s not throughout an institution. It merely means the ways to irradiate it are different. It could be argued that there is institutional racism throughout society as a result of unconscious bias!

The lack of any actual evidence for the assertions that the BBC turned a blind eye or covered up has already been explained at length. Innuendo and tabloid headlines do not equal evidence.

So one can be a racist by simply being a sentient being and not actually behaving or acting in a racist way? As I said, even the outgoing chair of the Institute of Race Relations has dismissed 'unconscious bias' as the crock of you know what that it is. [By the way, never heard of using radiation to counter racism before!]

 

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 17 Jul 23 11.15am

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

But the people you've spoken to on holiday equal enough evidence to confirm your bias.

I wasn’t often on holiday. More usually on business or, for a while, living, elsewhere.

What I saw didn’t confirm a bias. It confirmed a personal opinion.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 17 Jul 23 11.29am

Originally posted by georgenorman

So one can be a racist by simply being a sentient being and not actually behaving or acting in a racist way? As I said, even the outgoing chair of the Institute of Race Relations has dismissed 'unconscious bias' as the crock of you know what that it is. [By the way, never heard of using radiation to counter racism before!]

Acting unconsciously doesn’t mean you are sentient. It just means you are unaware you are doing it.

You are misrepresenting what Prescod said. He didn’t suggest that unconscious bias doesn’t exist. He was criticising the concentration on training given to try to deal with it and saying this avoided the need to tackle the problem on an individual basis.

 


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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 17 Jul 23 11.31am

Nobody with any sense could seriously believe the BBC harboured paedos. It's only made up by red tops wanting an end to the liberal centre ground press. It literally didn't happen - despite what everybody can see or read with their own eyes. Don't believe them - you're being fooled. You're weak minded and far right to even consider the mountain of evidence.

 


Red and Blue Army!

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards georgenorman Flag 17 Jul 23 11.33am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Acting unconsciously doesn’t mean you are sentient. It just means you are unaware you are doing it.

You are misrepresenting what Prescod said. He didn’t suggest that unconscious bias doesn’t exist. He was criticising the concentration on training given to try to deal with it and saying this avoided the need to tackle the problem on an individual basis.

The Guardian (yes, the Guardian) headlined Prescod's remarks as "Unconscious bias training is ‘nonsense’, says outgoing race relations chair"!

 

Teddy Eagle Flag 17 Jul 23 12.16pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I wasn’t often on holiday. More usually on business or, for a while, living, elsewhere.

What I saw didn’t confirm a bias. It confirmed a personal opinion.

That's what confirmation bias does.

 

ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 17 Jul 23 12.20pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

That's what confirmation bias does.

Oh no it doesn't

 


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Teddy Eagle Flag 17 Jul 23 12.39pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Oh no it doesn't

If Mr. Punch worked for the BBC he'd be the epitome of uxoriousness.

 

ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 17 Jul 23 12.58pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

If Mr. Punch worked for the BBC he'd be the epitome of uxoriousness.

She'd perhaps be a little old for a BBC front man if over 16. You could guarantee no employee would have reported his wife beating properly. None would have actually seen it, despite it being part of the show. And management wouldn't turn a blind eye - they'd just not know as much as everyone else did. Must be the most genuinely stupid people ever.

 


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Teddy Eagle Flag 17 Jul 23 1.02pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

She'd perhaps be a little old for a BBC front man if over 16. You could guarantee no employee would have reported his wife beating properly. None would have actually seen it, despite it being part of the show. And management wouldn't turn a blind eye - they'd just not know as much as everyone else did. Must be the most genuinely stupid people ever.

He'd get some grief for eating non-vegan sausages and ill-treating an endangered crocodile though.

 

eagleman13 Flag On The Road To Hell & Alicante 17 Jul 23 1.06pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

He'd get some grief for eating non-vegan sausages and ill-treating an endangered crocodile though.

And look what happened when the Police arrived . . .

 


This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

Teddy Eagle Flag 17 Jul 23 1.09pm

Originally posted by eagleman13

And look what happened when the Police arrived . . .

He beat Sting senseless.

 

ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 17 Jul 23 1.24pm

Originally posted by eagleman13

And look what happened when the Police arrived . . .

 


Red and Blue Army!

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 17 Jul 23 3.58pm

Originally posted by georgenorman

The Guardian (yes, the Guardian) headlined Prescod's remarks as "Unconscious bias training is ‘nonsense’, says outgoing race relations chair"!

Did you miss the subject of the remark? Which is the training, not any subjective bias itself!

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 17 Jul 23 4.03pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

That's what confirmation bias does.

I have, what I regard as a well founded, bias about the BBC. I don’t thought about what others say about it. Ask me what the attitudes here are and you would get an honest answer, which I would disagree with but not hide.

 


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Teddy Eagle Flag 17 Jul 23 4.11pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I have, what I regard as a well founded, bias about the BBC. I don’t thought about what others say about it. Ask me what the attitudes here are and you would get an honest answer, which I would disagree with but not hide.

Er...right.

 

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 17 Jul 23 4.14pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Nobody with any sense could seriously believe the BBC harboured paedos. It's only made up by red tops wanting an end to the liberal centre ground press. It literally didn't happen - despite what everybody can see or read with their own eyes. Don't believe them - you're being fooled. You're weak minded and far right to even consider the mountain of evidence.

That paedos work for the BBC is beyond doubt. I have little doubt they could be found in any large organisation. The difference is they attract more attention if and when discovered.

That’s not the issue. It’s whether the BBC was complicit in covering up their activities and there is simply no evidence that is true. There’s tonnes of innuendo, assertions and assumptions but nothing has ever ended up in court, let alone seen a conviction.

Could they have done better? Certainly. Have they learned? It seems so. Does that stop the right thinking they are all cut from the same cloth? No.

 


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