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the silurian Flag The garden of England.(not really) 17 Jul 23 4.15pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I haven’t noticed any questions from you, though to be fair I tend to ignore your “contributions”. What is it you are asking?

Just checked. You made this claim before.

I responded on 14th July at 11.33.

I answered, even if you either disagree or cannot understand.


Edited by Wisbech Eagle (17 Jul 2023 10.38am)

Where did you answer? I haven't seen it....I asked exactly how I benefit from the BBC because I dont see how I do

 

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 17 Jul 23 4.21pm

Originally posted by the silurian

Where did you answer? I haven't seen it....I asked exactly how I benefit from the BBC because I dont see how I do

Unless you have detached yourself completely from the UK you benefit in the same way everyone benefits. The BBC is a national asset, alongside all the others. We pay for most via taxation. We pay for the BBC in a different way to ensure it stays away from political influence. Which alone is something of inestimable value.

 


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Teddy Eagle Flag 17 Jul 23 4.27pm

Move on. Nothing to see.

[Link]

 

the silurian Flag The garden of England.(not really) 17 Jul 23 4.31pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Unless you have detached yourself completely from the UK you benefit in the same way everyone benefits. The BBC is a national asset, alongside all the others. We pay for most via taxation. We pay for the BBC in a different way to ensure it stays away from political influence. Which alone is something of inestimable value.

In your opinion! I benefit in no way at all from BBC tv or radio....and you didn't answer at 11.33 on the 14th I just looked. So this inestimable value is what exactly?

 

ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 17 Jul 23 5.12pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Move on. Nothing to see.

[Link]

Sensationalist nonsense.

 


Red and Blue Army!

cryrst Flag The garden of England 17 Jul 23 5.15pm

Originally posted by the silurian

He won't answer because he has no idea how....I've asked three times with no reply!

Fred knows HOW

 

Teddy Eagle Flag 17 Jul 23 5.22pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Sensationalist nonsense.

Typical of that right-wing rag.

 

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 17 Jul 23 10.58pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Move on. Nothing to see.

[Link]

As I have asked before, do you read the links you provide?

What that one actually says is what I have also said many times now.

That the BBC could have done better, and have learned how to. If their staff really felt intimidated then that obviously needed to be rectified and the revised protocols have hopefully addressed that.

That all might be true but what isn’t is that there was a deliberate cover-up by management. What happened was the consequence of a different culture during a different time. Instead of using hindsight to try to bring down an organisation that some despise for their own reasons we ought, in my opinion, give due credit for the willingness to learn and allow the BBC to move on and do what they do best. Provide unbiased journalism of the highest order with the maximum integrity.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 17 Jul 23 11.02pm

Originally posted by the silurian

In your opinion! I benefit in no way at all from BBC tv or radio....and you didn't answer at 11.33 on the 14th I just looked. So this inestimable value is what exactly?

Oh I answered. You just don’t accept the answer.

I have already explained the benefits. There’s no point in repeating them. You either get it, or you don’t.

If you think everything has to convey a personal benefit, you won’t. If you think collectively then you will.

 


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Teddy Eagle Flag 17 Jul 23 11.12pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

As I have asked before, do you read the links you provide?

What that one actually says is what I have also said many times now.

That the BBC could have done better, and have learned how to. If their staff really felt intimidated then that obviously needed to be rectified and the revised protocols have hopefully addressed that.

That all might be true but what isn’t is that there was a deliberate cover-up by management. What happened was the consequence of a different culture during a different time. Instead of using hindsight to try to bring down an organisation that some despise for their own reasons we ought, in my opinion, give due credit for the willingness to learn and allow the BBC to move on and do what they do best. Provide unbiased journalism of the highest order with the maximum integrity.

And as I have said I'm more concerned with the fate of abused children than in defending the reputation of a broadcaster however unbiased they're claimed to be.
A different culture in a different time is a pointless defence. Does that count for Nazi war criminals or the descendants of slave owners?

 

HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 17 Jul 23 11.20pm

It's pointless debating with an idealogue.

I am trying to limit my responses to issues of fact and only extreme
deluded hubris.

 


Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

The Dolphin Flag 18 Jul 23 6.46am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

As I have asked before, do you read the links you provide?

What that one actually says is what I have also said many times now.

That the BBC could have done better, and have learned how to. If their staff really felt intimidated then that obviously needed to be rectified and the revised protocols have hopefully addressed that.

That all might be true but what isn’t is that there was a deliberate cover-up by management. What happened was the consequence of a different culture during a different time. Instead of using hindsight to try to bring down an organisation that some despise for their own reasons we ought, in my opinion, give due credit for the willingness to learn and allow the BBC to move on and do what they do best. Provide unbiased journalism of the highest order with the maximum integrity.

The BBC is a left wing, liberal monolith - that might not be the right word - that believes it can do no wrong.
There are no rules - bar their own.
They are funded by stupid people - their thoughts not mine - and so they self-govern and when it doesn't work out, nothing really happens to them - the ball just keeps rolling.
They produce some good stuff for sure but they are nothing like the great Broadcaster that they once were.
If they did what they do and behaved as they behave in the real world they would be dismantled in minutes.
I take no joy in saying it - I was brought up on the BBC.
I always thought that it was the best news channel in the world - I am patriotic and do silly things - like fly BA whenever I can.
The BBC is bloated and beyond its sell by date. It is out of control and a dangerous organisation and should be forced to fend for itself without us backing it.
Defund asap!

 

the silurian Flag The garden of England.(not really) 18 Jul 23 6.51am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Oh I answered. You just don’t accept the answer.

I have already explained the benefits. There’s no point in repeating them. You either get it, or you don’t.

If you think everything has to convey a personal benefit, you won’t. If you think collectively then you will.

Ok if you say so, however I can't see your answer maybe you can tell me what page it's on and I'll go look.....you have never explained the benefit of the BBC, there is no benefit that I can see so I'll give up now and leave you to your Cornish nudist beaches and ignore your pompous posts for a while.

 

the silurian Flag The garden of England.(not really) 18 Jul 23 7.03am

Originally posted by the silurian

Ok if you say so, however I can't see your answer maybe you can tell me what page it's on and I'll go look.....you have never explained the benefit of the BBC, there is no benefit that I can see so I'll give up now and leave you to your Cornish nudist beaches and ignore your pompous posts for a while.

I'll apologize oh pompous one, I have now found your nonsensical reply...still find that the BBC benefits me or many others in any way so we'll leave it there, anyway old boy the sun is out so Cornwall's nudist beaches must be calling you, you have a nice day!!

 

Badger11 Flag Beckenham 18 Jul 23 7.06am

The Times today (sorry behind paywall)

Number of people paying their licence according to the BBC has fallen by 500,000 last year. I think the previous average was 250,000.

As I said in an earlier post surveys can always be skewed this is real world data if this trend continues the BBC will be in real trouble which is why they are keen to replace the licence fee with a broadband tax.

Government will announce a review in the Autumn.

 


One more point

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 18 Jul 23 8.39am

Originally posted by the silurian

I'll apologize oh pompous one, I have now found your nonsensical reply...still find that the BBC benefits me or many others in any way so we'll leave it there, anyway old boy the sun is out so Cornwall's nudist beaches must be calling you, you have a nice day!!

Thank you for accepting that I replied and the confirmation that, as I suspected, you are too wrapped up in yourself to comprehend it.

It’s raining. I am busy playing bowls and don’t tend to go on any beaches here in the summer. Too full of tourists.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 18 Jul 23 8.42am

This from the BBC today makes interesting reading in the light of the recent comments here:-

[Link]

 


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Teddy Eagle Flag 18 Jul 23 8.46am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

This from the BBC today makes interesting reading in the light of the recent comments here:-

[Link]

This is the crux of the matter though. Will anyone mount a defence for them because people like their hamburgers?

 

Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 18 Jul 23 8.49am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

This from the BBC today makes interesting reading in the light of the recent comments here:-

[Link]

I don't tend to read everything at face value. Especially from the BBC, who it seems were touting for complainants. Who hadn't actually complained to anyone before the BBC got in touch.

 


I disengage, I turn the page.

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 18 Jul 23 8.49am

Originally posted by Badger11

The Times today (sorry behind paywall)

Number of people paying their licence according to the BBC has fallen by 500,000 last year. I think the previous average was 250,000.

As I said in an earlier post surveys can always be skewed this is real world data if this trend continues the BBC will be in real trouble which is why they are keen to replace the licence fee with a broadband tax.

Government will announce a review in the Autumn.

Changing the basis of the funding in that way makes perfect sense provided the way it is set up cannot be tampered with politically by future governments, without passing primary legislation.

So long as the BBC’s independence is set in stone I don’t care how they are funded or if their peripheral activities curtailed.

 


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