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 Wisbech Eagle  Truro Cornwall 04 Nov 19 9.52am |
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Originally posted by Willo
Indeed I fall into this category.An ERG "Spartan" content to adopt a "Nonsensical position" (Your phrasiology) with no intention of changing my mind as you have no intention of changing yours. Indeed,a fixed opinion unable to consider alternative viewpoints and just looking for those opinions which confirm your own bias.This is fine as we all have firm views, but I really don't think it is right and proper to accuse others, in negative terms, of adopting a similar stance. Apropos "Few weeks to save the UK", straight from the Labour manifesto of yesteryear in relation to the NHS and they continue with their scaremongering hogwash as they have nothing positive to spout.In actual fact few years to save the UK from this zombie,sclerotic Parliament hell-bent on preventing Brexit. I wish you well concentrating your efforts elsewhere where "Fertile minds" can be changed and you will spend your time in more "Productive ways".Time will tell of course if rhetoric matches reality and you really disappear into the ether. I can assure you my "Fertile" mind will not be changed, I am "Gummed" to my position.
Whilst I will ignore the other responses for being at the predictable and under moderated level I have come to expect here I think I ought to respond to yours. Actually you don't fall into "that" category! I disagree with your politics but you are respectful and polite. There are others on here who back in the 1930s would have been wearing black shirts and marching with Oswald Mosley. It's those who I cannot tolerate and who I think all decent people, including yourself, ought to oppose vehemently. The problem is that they don't recognise this in themselves. I won't name names, as they ought to be obvious. Add to that the standard of "moderation" which is so biased as to be a joke and you might begin to understand why a moderate like me thinks there are better ways at the moment to spend my time than on here. I too will be out on the doorsteps soon. But not for the Tory Party. They have left me.
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| Stirlingsays 04 Nov 19 10.06am |
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 04 Nov 19 10.10am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Whilst I will ignore the other responses for being at the predictable and under moderated level I have come to expect here I think I ought to respond to yours. Actually you don't fall into "that" category! I disagree with your politics but you are respectful and polite. There are others on here who back in the 1930s would have been wearing black shirts and marching with Oswald Mosley. It's those who I cannot tolerate and who I think all decent people, including yourself, ought to oppose vehemently. The problem is that they don't recognise this in themselves. I won't name names, as they ought to be obvious. Add to that the standard of "moderation" which is so biased as to be a joke and you might begin to understand why a moderate like me thinks there are better ways at the moment to spend my time than on here. I too will be out on the doorsteps soon. But not for the Tory Party. They have left me. Thank you. I accept that my opinions and political leaning might differ from others but I always seek to argue my case free from personal slurs and rancour. Debate can at times become febrile rather than saccarine with gladitorial hostility order of the day and suave blandishments not in evidence.Of course high-grade ordnance can get dropped on those who take an alternative viewpoint and who have ruffled feathers but I suppose this adds to the rich tapestry of discussion both within and outside a website. Apropos 'Doorsteps', I have already ploughed my furrow in this direction and will continue to do so and I am delighted to report that support for my party has been overwhelming! I wish you a pleasant day.
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ASCPFC  Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 04 Nov 19 10.13am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Whilst I will ignore the other responses for being at the predictable and under moderated level I have come to expect here I think I ought to respond to yours. Actually you don't fall into "that" category! I disagree with your politics but you are respectful and polite. There are others on here who back in the 1930s would have been wearing black shirts and marching with Oswald Mosley. It's those who I cannot tolerate and who I think all decent people, including yourself, ought to oppose vehemently. The problem is that they don't recognise this in themselves. I won't name names, as they ought to be obvious. Add to that the standard of "moderation" which is so biased as to be a joke and you might begin to understand why a moderate like me thinks there are better ways at the moment to spend my time than on here. I too will be out on the doorsteps soon. But not for the Tory Party. They have left me. You're canvassing for Farage then? The deal isn't great is it.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 04 Nov 19 10.22am |
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A recent poll of Conservative members has revealed that 66% expect an overall Conservative majority.87% expect a Conservative led-Government.
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 Hrolf The Ganger 04 Nov 19 10.25am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Whilst I will ignore the other responses for being at the predictable and under moderated level I have come to expect here I think I ought to respond to yours. Actually you don't fall into "that" category! I disagree with your politics but you are respectful and polite. There are others on here who back in the 1930s would have been wearing black shirts and marching with Oswald Mosley. It's those who I cannot tolerate and who I think all decent people, including yourself, ought to oppose vehemently. The problem is that they don't recognise this in themselves. I won't name names, as they ought to be obvious. Add to that the standard of "moderation" which is so biased as to be a joke and you might begin to understand why a moderate like me thinks there are better ways at the moment to spend my time than on here. I too will be out on the doorsteps soon. But not for the Tory Party. They have left me. What a surprise, an activist. Were you assigned to this site?
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 04 Nov 19 10.26am |
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Truro is lovely. Let’s remain. Superman.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 04 Nov 19 10.28am |
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The only doorstep W his been on is his own. They are so sick of him they are voting monster raving loony.
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| Midlands Eagle 04 Nov 19 10.32am |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
They are so sick of him they are voting monster raving loony. I thought that he was the monster raving loony
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| CrazyBadger Ware 04 Nov 19 10.36am |
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Originally posted by Willo
A recent poll of Conservative members has revealed that 66% expect an overall Conservative majority.87% expect a Conservative led-Government. ...well Of course they would?! they'd hardly going round saying they think they'd lose. what does a recent poll of all party members say?
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 04 Nov 19 10.46am |
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Originally posted by Willo
A recent poll of Conservative members has revealed that 66% expect an overall Conservative majority.87% expect a Conservative led-Government. We haven’t heard Corbyn’s undeliverable promises yet to damage the Tories in the polls. Actually we have, at their conference, but they were so ridiculous everyone has forgotten. Reducing the working week on equal pay was a cracker. Might work in offices, but not in, erm, working class manual jobs. Funny how we get called idiots for voting leave when real idiots vote these fools.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 04 Nov 19 10.50am |
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Originally posted by CrazyBadger
...well Of course they would?! they'd hardly going round saying they think they'd lose. what does a recent poll of all party members say? Conservative members usually give their honest assessment of our prospects and I have spoken to vast numbers over the years.At times some have been very despondent and doomsters.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 04 Nov 19 10.55am |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
We haven’t heard Corbyn’s undeliverable promises yet to damage the Tories in the polls. Actually we have, at their conference, but they were so ridiculous everyone has forgotten. Reducing the working week on equal pay was a cracker. Might work in offices, but not in, erm, working class manual jobs. Funny how we get called idiots for voting leave when real idiots vote these fools. There will of course be the usual NHS hogwash and scaremongering which NHS staff have already started complaining about.
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| the silurian The garden of England.(not really) 04 Nov 19 1.49pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I think you will find it rather specifically says that it won't. but you can prove me wrong. This will be interesting! I actually saw Herr Verhofstadt talking about a reason for an EU army just the other day......maybe you should search out the speech on youtube.....or is that beneath you?? Oh just seen youve left HOL so wont see this. are you never coming back?? Edited by the silurian (04 Nov 2019 1.54pm)
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| the silurian The garden of England.(not really) 04 Nov 19 1.51pm |
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Originally posted by elgrande
You really are the most patronising person I think I have read. You bang on about other people being blind to other views..and yet you are by far the worst culprit of this. Someone else can see this....hooray!!
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| Stirlingsays 04 Nov 19 4.39pm |
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Originally posted by the silurian
Someone else can see this....hooray!! It made debating with him pointless. He wasn't interested in honest debate and logic, he'd twist and turn and you'd end up with the implication 'because he thinks so' and that's it.....just completely disingenuous. The most closed mind on here and he had the cheek to rally against those who opposed him. I've had many debates with the left or those more to the left than myself on here and you always respect those who are honest and tackle the concepts. After a while you know the difference between those who can discuss ideas honestly and those who aren't here for that. Not that I'm against a troll....a laugh or a p1ss take is fair game because to give it you should take it. But when it comes to the serious stuff we need people who can actually play the game honestly. Edited by Stirlingsays (04 Nov 2019 4.43pm)
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| EverybodyDannsNow SE19 04 Nov 19 4.51pm |
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Originally posted by the silurian
I actually saw Herr Verhofstadt talking about a reason for an EU army just the other day......maybe you should search out the speech on youtube.....or is that beneath you?? Oh just seen youve left HOL so wont see this. are you never coming back?? Edited by the silurian (04 Nov 2019 1.54pm) Someone saying they want something is not the same as saying it is an inevitability based on a treaty though, is it?
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| EverybodyDannsNow SE19 04 Nov 19 4.54pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
We haven’t heard Corbyn’s undeliverable promises yet to damage the Tories in the polls. Actually we have, at their conference, but they were so ridiculous everyone has forgotten. Reducing the working week on equal pay was a cracker. Might work in offices, but not in, erm, working class manual jobs. Funny how we get called idiots for voting leave when real idiots vote these fools. Because undeliverable promises are exclusive to Labour right? The Tories have a good track record on that front - Boris is so damn trustworthy.
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| Stirlingsays 04 Nov 19 5.00pm |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
Someone saying they want something is not the same as saying it is an inevitability based on a treaty though, is it? They want a 'United States of Europe', that's the overtly obvious direction of travel. I'm not sure how that works with individual states doing their own thing militarily. I heard that even Boris's deal puts limits on what we can do militarily anyway. Edited by Stirlingsays (04 Nov 2019 5.01pm)
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
They want a 'United States of Europe', that's the overtly obvious direction of travel. I'm not sure how that works with individual states doing their own thing militarily. I heard that even Boris's deal puts limits on what we can do militarily anyway. Edited by Stirlingsays (04 Nov 2019 5.01pm) I would think that was a given from the outset. If you're dealing with forces like USA and China/Asia, seems reasonable to be in a large group too.
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