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 doombear  Too far from Selhurst Park 21 Mar 23 8.28pm |
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I do wonder who will want to come to Palace this summer following recent events.
Unless Parish has someone lined up who can take over at the season's end, I see us sleepwalking into yet another unsatisfactory pre-season with a late arriving new manager at the helm struggling to play catch-up before the new season starts.
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| Swindy Bromley 21 Mar 23 8.39pm |
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I am afraid that is again highly likely.
There cannot even be any proper planning for next season yet as due to being run by amateurs we are in a league position where we could easily go down.
If we do go, the sad thing is it should have been completely avoidable.
The equally sad thing is how long it has taken so many to see how hapless Parish is !
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| PJEagle London 21 Mar 23 9.29pm |
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Originally posted by Swindy
I am afraid that is again highly likely.
There cannot even be any proper planning for next season yet as due to being run by amateurs we are in a league position where we could easily go down.
If we do go, the sad thing is it should have been completely avoidable.
The equally sad thing is how long it has taken so many to see how hapless Parish is !
With respect, I think you are being far too negative. I think we are all demoralised by the dramatic fall in fortunes of the club. If we survive in the PL, a lot of players hungry for a chance of life in the PL will want to come to Palace. Big money players on big contracts go to top 6 sides
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| sydtheeagle England 21 Mar 23 9.38pm |
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If we survive, and possibly even if we don't, I expect a significant loosening of the purse strings in this summer's window. Nothing steels an investor's mind like looking over the precipice, and this season's experience may teach Harris and Blitzer how easy it is to lose 50% of the value of your investment in a football team overnight if you try to cut corners.
The squad is in dire need of extensive repair as a result of years of neglect and under-investment; the owners aren't fools and they'll realise if we stay up that they've dodged a bullet this year. I doubt they'll let it happen again.
Ny guess is that we're in for a squad overhaul and the naysayers may be surprised at the extent of funds made available this summer. I suspect the 2023/24 version of Palace won't look much like its immediate predecessor. I would also imagine that the recruitment of a new manager is already underway. With Roy clearly in the job for only eleven games, there's absolutely no reason to delay and with the summer window critical, I'd imagine the board would want a new manager in place immediately after the season ended.
Edited by sydtheeagle (21 Mar 2023 9.40pm)
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| Swindy Bromley 21 Mar 23 9.51pm |
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'With respect, I think you are being far too negative. I think we are all demoralised by the dramatic fall in fortunes of the club. If we survive in the PL, a lot of players hungry for a chance of life in the PL will want to come to Palace. Big money players on big contracts go to top 6 sides'
And I mentioned 'big money players on big contracts going to top 6 clubs', exactly where ??
And as for 'lots of hungry players up for a chance of life in the PL with Palace', I take it you have missed the complete reluctance of Parish to put his hand in his pocket to properly back the manager this season and then sack him !!
My point, which is not difficult to deduce, was that due to the fact that we are now in a proper relegation battle and not comfortably in mid-table like sides with which we should be at least be on a par, Fulham, Brentford for example, we cannot plan ahead !!
I take it you are one of the recent, new premiership fans who think Parish is wonderful etc.
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| PJEagle London 21 Mar 23 11.17pm |
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Originally posted by Swindy
'With respect, I think you are being far too negative. I think we are all demoralised by the dramatic fall in fortunes of the club. If we survive in the PL, a lot of players hungry for a chance of life in the PL will want to come to Palace. Big money players on big contracts go to top 6 sides'
And I mentioned 'big money players on big contracts going to top 6 clubs', exactly where ??
And as for 'lots of hungry players up for a chance of life in the PL with Palace', I take it you have missed the complete reluctance of Parish to put his hand in his pocket to properly back the manager this season and then sack him !!
My point, which is not difficult to deduce, was that due to the fact that we are now in a proper relegation battle and not comfortably in mid-table like sides with which we should be at least be on a par, Fulham, Brentford for example, we cannot plan ahead !!
I take it you are one of the recent, new premiership fans who think Parish is wonderful etc.
Sadly no, I've been a Palace fan for 40 years...
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Nicholas91  The Democratic Republic of Kent 21 Mar 23 11.34pm |
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Gloryhunter!
Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!
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ASCPFC  Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 22 Mar 23 2.33pm |
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I'm positive that if we go down, plenty of our youngsters are good enough for the Championship and we'll have quite a large, young, decent squad. I believe we could compete for promotion.
If we stay up, I reckon we need at least five players, possibly more. I'm thinking 100 mil - which we're not going to get without new ownership. However, why the f*** we didn't use our loan slots is anyone's guess. Most likely complete ineptitude. You can have several loans so that could mitigate next season's requirements somewhat. Still going to need a few players.
And what are we going to get for what we need to get rid of? Not much by the looks of them. We'll be lucky to get any fee for most.
Red and Blue Army!
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 22 Mar 23 3.16pm |
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Originally posted by sydtheeagle
If we survive, and possibly even if we don't, I expect a significant loosening of the purse strings in this summer's window. Nothing steels an investor's mind like looking over the precipice, and this season's experience may teach Harris and Blitzer how easy it is to lose 50% of the value of your investment in a football team overnight if you try to cut corners.
The squad is in dire need of extensive repair as a result of years of neglect and under-investment; the owners aren't fools and they'll realise if we stay up that they've dodged a bullet this year. I doubt they'll let it happen again.
Ny guess is that we're in for a squad overhaul and the naysayers may be surprised at the extent of funds made available this summer. I suspect the 2023/24 version of Palace won't look much like its immediate predecessor. I would also imagine that the recruitment of a new manager is already underway. With Roy clearly in the job for only eleven games, there's absolutely no reason to delay and with the summer window critical, I'd imagine the board would want a new manager in place immediately after the season ended.
Edited by sydtheeagle (21 Mar 2023 9.40pm)
I suspect such forward planning would contain two lists, one for the PL and another for the Championship with possible overlaps.
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gloryhunter  EDINBURGH 25 Mar 23 11.29am |
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Hey!
gloryhunter (eagle in exile)
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| ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 25 Mar 23 2.51pm |
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I've noticed that there are a lot of transfer rumours about Guehi. With our track record, he'll leave and we'll believe we're fine without bothering to replace him.
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| HeathMan Purley 25 Mar 23 11.21pm |
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The essential is a manager. Roy will finish at the end of the season. Getting his replacement sooner (June / July) rather than later (August / September) will depend on whether we win three of the next four or not.
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| Dubai Eagle 26 Mar 23 7.31am |
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if we can get a couple of decent results in our first few remaining fixtures that would certainly help to encourage progress leaning towards the PL group -
Originally posted by Willo
I suspect such forward planning would contain two lists, one for the PL and another for the Championship with possible overlaps.
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| YT Oxford 26 Mar 23 8.49am |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
I've noticed that there are a lot of transfer rumours about Guehi. With our track record, he'll leave and we'll believe we're fine without bothering to replace him.
You missed the part of our track record where we waste the money we receive for him in any case.
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| ambrose7 Croydon 26 Mar 23 11.11am |
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Originally posted by Willo
I suspect such forward planning would contain two lists, one for the PL and another for the Championship with possible overlaps.
Recent evidence suggests the owners won't start to think about it until 1st June. We'll likely end up appointing someone after the players have returned for pre-season, make a couple of signings, still look drastically short in early August, scramble in the last couple of weeks and then start the season with two or three positions not addressed whilst the new signings are yet to get up to speed.
I'd love to see us be proactive but it'd buck the trend of the last .... 10 years?
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 26 Mar 23 11.15am |
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Originally posted by ambrose7
Recent evidence suggests the owners won't start to think about it until 1st June. We'll likely end up appointing someone after the players have returned for pre-season, make a couple of signings, still look drastically short in early August, scramble in the last couple of weeks and then start the season with two or three positions not addressed whilst the new signings are yet to get up to speed.
I'd love to see us be proactive but it'd buck the trend of the last .... 10 years?
Personally I don't envisage this scenario as I believe a new manager will be in situ earlier than perhaps many had expected and we won't be dilatory in the transfer market.
Edited by Willo (26 Mar 2023 11.16am)
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| Midlands Eagle 26 Mar 23 1.07pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
Personally I don't envisage this scenario as I believe a new manager will be in situ earlier than perhaps many had expected and we won't be dilatory in the transfer market.
Surely no manager will take the job until we know what division we will be in next season
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 26 Mar 23 1.57pm |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
Surely no manager will take the job until we know what division we will be in next season
I am in total agreement.
Once our fate is sealed I just have the feeling that a manager will be in situ without too much delay unlike the situation when Mr Hodgson announced his departure.
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 grumpymort  US/Thailand/UK 26 Mar 23 4.40pm |
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Preseason doesn't matter the club would have planned it out already Palace tend to do it around Jan time (Big Sam confirmed this he wasn't happy he had no input it's about $$$ not what is required)
Not sure why people keep going on about plans if we go down that is silly you dont plan for that in the position we are currently in.
Too many people thinking negative you do not think like this is in sports/business otherwise you have given up already.
New manager was going to be very tough anyway who really wants to come to Palace not many which is why it takes so long and the club is run by amateur SP after all this time still in charge sums it up we should have moved on from him plus all the subpar staff which are not up to this level being handed jobs because of ties to the club (This is not how you run a business but for SP he is making a lot of money so it's working for him)
Another issue is we have done nothing to training facilities for a long time they really are not up to Prem standard. (Pardew even said this and did some changes but it's still far away from being good enough)
Transfer funds I expect plenty will be available you can tell they was saving them as was the case before to go on big spend (will it be good players who knows the scouting at the club is awful which is why recruitment is so poor or takes very long time)
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| southnorwoodhill 26 Mar 23 9.08pm |
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SP - "Well Colin, welcome back. What is it, 4 stints with us now? Anyway, as you know there's never a dull moment round here; if I'm not at the hair dresser or getting measured up for a new suit, it's either a push for Europe or a relegation battle. And this is where you come in, to bring some stability to the club."
Colin - "Thanks Steve, I've identified a few players that fit the bill and we'll be a mid table club quicker than you can say "Tony Pulis". Their acquisition will come inside the transfer budget you mentioned at interview."
SP "What transfer budget? I said we can look forward to a few loans and push for Europe from there."
Colin - "Bye Steve, best of luck."
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