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Eaglecoops Flag CR3 22 Jun 24 9.53pm

Originally posted by DenTyler

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Interesting watch

Interesting for sure. I always thought there was no Eze or Guehi release clause and this confirms. It means put up or shut up for any interested parties this summer.

 

EddieMac Flag 22 Jun 24 9.56pm

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

Am I the only person who thinks he is just a money grabbing little s***e. Never looked happy when he scored a goal, never looked happy when another Palace player scored a goal, always spoke about how he was only really interested in furthering his own career and obviously made sure that he was able to escape from the Palace as soon as a decent team came in for him.

In my book, this is a player I don’t really want in the team at all anyway, but have I totally misjudged him? Just a possible character playbook of the player that is Michael Olise. What are fans thoughts on how he has played out his career with us to date?

I think you have completely mis judged him. He has been nothing but professional and one of the best players to ever play for Palace. Off to one of the biggest clubs in the world. I’ve forgotten him already but Good luck to him.

 

Palace Old Geezer Flag Midhurst 22 Jun 24 9.56pm

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

Am I the only person who thinks he is just a money grabbing little s***e. Never looked happy when he scored a goal, never looked happy when another Palace player scored a goal, always spoke about how he was only really interested in furthering his own career and obviously made sure that he was able to escape from the Palace as soon as a decent team came in for him.

In my book, this is a player I don’t really want in the team at all anyway, but have I totally misjudged him? Just a possible character playbook of the player that is Michael Olise. What are fans thoughts on how he has played out his career with us to date?

An interesting observation Eaglecoops and I'm sure you're not alone. I've been hoping and praying (figure of speech) that he would still be Palace next season.

I've loved watching him play, such sublime skills, but you have to say he's hardly ever looked like he's enjoying himself. I remember just once when he scored and ran, smiling, to embrace
Ollie. Mostly he's a miserable git and shows no emotional attachment to Palace. Added to the fact that he hasn't played a full season I have now come round to the view that we are better off without him.

Dougie, Ollie and the rest of the team will find a replacement to suitably fill the void. Just pleased he won't be in the Prem to annoy us.


Edited by Palace Old Geezer (22 Jun 2024 10.00pm)

 


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Eagle-Trucker Flag Cashel , Co Tipp 22 Jun 24 10.04pm

Originally posted by Palace Old Geezer

An interesting observation Eaglecoops and I'm sure you're not alone. I've been hoping and praying (figure of speech) that he would still be Palace next season.

I've loved watching him play, such sublime skills, but you have to say he's hardly ever looked like he's enjoying himself. I remember just once when he scored and ran, smiling, to embrace
Ollie. Mostly he's a miserable git and shows no emotional attachment to Palace. Added to the fact that he hasn't played a full season I have now come round to the view that we are better off without him.


Yea , cant argue with that . He has never looked happy , only that one time he ran to OG when he scored and the day he signed his new contract . We won without him when he was injured im sure we will manage without him . Good luck to him though and i hope it work out for him .

 


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EddieMac Flag 22 Jun 24 10.06pm

Originally posted by Palace Old Geezer

An interesting observation Eaglecoops and I'm sure you're not alone. I've been hoping and praying (figure of speech) that he would still be Palace next season.

I've loved watching him play, such sublime skills, but you have to say he's hardly ever looked like he's enjoying himself. I remember just once when he scored and ran, smiling, to embrace
Ollie. Mostly he's a miserable git and shows no emotional attachment to Palace. Added to the fact that he hasn't played a full season I have now come round to the view that we are better off without him.

Dougie, Ollie and the rest of the team will find a replacement to suitably fill the void. Just pleased he won't be in the Prem to annoy us.


Edited by Palace Old Geezer (22 Jun 2024 10.00pm)

Better off without him!! What a comment. One of the best players in our history and will go onto to be one of the best in world football and we are better off without because he doesn’t smile enough.

Suffering christ above give me strength.

 

Eaglecoops Flag CR3 22 Jun 24 10.20pm

Originally posted by EddieMac

Better off without him!! What a comment. One of the best players in our history and will go onto to be one of the best in world football and we are better off without because he doesn’t smile enough.

Suffering christ above give me strength.

His ability has never been in question, his love of the Palace family perhaps less so, I don’t think anyone is suggesting we are better off without such a good player, but better off without a player who is not wedded to playing for us.

 

CT Charlie Flag 22 Jun 24 10.29pm

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

Am I the only person who thinks he is just a money grabbing little s***e. Never looked happy when he scored a goal, never looked happy when another Palace player scored a goal, always spoke about how he was only really interested in furthering his own career and obviously made sure that he was able to escape from the Palace as soon as a decent team came in for him.

In my book, this is a player I don’t really want in the team at all anyway, but have I totally misjudged him? Just a possible character playbook of the player that is Michael Olise. What are fans thoughts on how he has played out his career with us to date?

My take is 180 degrees away from this. Having spent 35 years teaching and coaching teenagers, I know that many of them embrace cool, even enigmatic behavior – heck, that approach has been popular as far back as James Dean, Bob Dylan, and the Beatles. I also think he's a bit of a perfectionist who, even when he scores goals, rues the chances he has missed. Finally, just like his best mate Eze, he is a fundamentally respectful and humble young man who may regard any kind of celebration as unbecoming. They may vastly prefer the restraint of someone like Ayew to the cockiness of a Ronaldo.

The fact that he and Eze are such good friends – almost brotherly – says a lot to me about Olise's personality as well as his character.

 

Palace Old Geezer Flag Midhurst 22 Jun 24 10.35pm

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

His ability has never been in question, his love of the Palace family perhaps less so, I don’t think anyone is suggesting we are better off without such a good player, but better off without a player who is not wedded to playing for us.

Quite, thank you Eaglecoops. No denying he's a wonderful player and I'm very sorry to see him go.

My point, maybe not expressed well, is that Olise is not true to the Palace way, and, as such, we wave goodbye, wish him luck and rebuild successfully with others identified by Dougie and his team. Not forgetting, of course, that we have JRS and Franca waiting to be given an opportunity under Ollie's tutelage.

 


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Eaglecoops Flag CR3 22 Jun 24 10.39pm

Originally posted by CT Charlie

My take is 180 degrees away from this. Having spent 35 years teaching and coaching teenagers, I know that many of them embrace cool, even enigmatic behavior – heck, that approach has been popular as far back as James Dean, Bob Dylan, and the Beatles. I also think he's a bit of a perfectionist who, even when he scores goals, rues the chances he has missed. Finally, just like his best mate Eze, he is a fundamentally respectful and humble young man who may regard any kind of celebration as unbecoming. They may vastly prefer the restraint of someone like Ayew to the cockiness of a Ronaldo.

The fact that he and Eze are such good friends – almost brotherly – says a lot to me about Olise's personality as well as his character.

Get that, it’s a shame loyalty isn’t a popular trait any more though.

 

Teddy Eagle Flag 22 Jun 24 10.50pm


I don't care how happy he appears. Actually I prefer his manner to the cliché of a player kissing the badge and running to the crowd then a year later doing the same thing with a different club.

 

eaglesdare Flag 22 Jun 24 11.05pm

If I am in Olises position...

I wouldn't fancy staying at a club that flirts with relegation every season and then when I get to 30/31 no trophies and only a club in turkey wants me. (Yes I'm looking at Zaha) I'm going to go and win trophies while I am in my prime.

The release clause was great for olise something the likes of Zaha should have had when Arsenal came calling.

 

Glazier#1 Flag 22 Jun 24 11.10pm

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

Am I the only person who thinks he is just a money grabbing little s***e. Never looked happy when he scored a goal, never looked happy when another Palace player scored a goal, always spoke about how he was only really interested in furthering his own career and obviously made sure that he was able to escape from the Palace as soon as a decent team came in for him.

In my book, this is a player I don’t really want in the team at all anyway, but have I totally misjudged him? Just a possible character playbook of the player that is Michael Olise. What are fans thoughts on how he has played out his career with us to date?

Sorry, I completely disagree.

I wish him nothing but the best and feel privileged, as a Palace fan, that he's worn the shirt for as long as he has.

He should be ambitious, for, imo, he deserves to be playing in the best competitions in the world, such is his talent. It's players like him that make me love football, the beautiful game.

I'm pleased he's not flash, too, as it happens. Just talented.

For me, he is the best I've ever seen at Palace, even above Atillio.

Good luck, MO, and best wishes.

Edited by Glazier#1 (22 Jun 2024 11.16pm)

 

PatrickA Flag London 23 Jun 24 6.28am

Not too many are denying Olise’s ability or right to move to a top Champions League.
club.
Perhaps we have a sell on clause so that when in a year or so he decides Bayern are not good enough for him,and Real Madrid come calling and buy him for £100 million, we at least get some further remuneration?
Such is football these days resembling ever more a commodity trading platform.

I agree with Eaglecoops point on loyalty and have sympathy for the 10 year olds who joyously purchased shirts with Olise’s name in the weeks after Olise signed a new 5 year deal which he had no intention of fulfilling.
Perhaps they should have a money back guarantee in a similar way to Olise’s exit clause?

Ultimately it’s the fans that lose out as more and more money leeches out of the game to agents and players, with the fans paying for much of this excess.

We won’t go back, but I preferred the days of no exit clauses or sell on provisions and times when long term contracts had meaningful value.


 

EddieMac Flag 23 Jun 24 6.52am

Originally posted by PatrickA

Not too many are denying Olise’s ability or right to move to a top Champions League.
club.
Perhaps we have a sell on clause so that when in a year or so he decides Bayern are not good enough for him,and Real Madrid come calling and buy him for £100 million, we at least get some further remuneration?
Such is football these days resembling ever more a commodity trading platform.

I agree with Eaglecoops point on loyalty and have sympathy for the 10 year olds who joyously purchased shirts with Olise’s name in the weeks after Olise signed a new 5 year deal which he had no intention of fulfilling.
Perhaps they should have a money back guarantee in a similar way to Olise’s exit clause?

Ultimately it’s the fans that lose out as more and more money leeches out of the game to agents and players, with the fans paying for much of this excess.

We won’t go back, but I preferred the days of no exit clauses or sell on provisions and times when long term contracts had meaningful value.


There was no issues with sell on clauses from Palace fans when we got him from Reading.

 

samprior Flag Hamburg 23 Jun 24 6.57am

Originally posted by Glazier#1

Sorry, I completely disagree.

I wish him nothing but the best and feel privileged, as a Palace fan, that he's worn the shirt for as long as he has.

He should be ambitious, for, imo, he deserves to be playing in the best competitions in the world, such is his talent. It's players like him that make me love football, the beautiful game.

I'm pleased he's not flash, too, as it happens. Just talented.

For me, he is the best I've ever seen at Palace, even above Atillio.

Good luck, MO, and best wishes.

Edited by Glazier#1 (22 Jun 2024 11.16pm)

100% agree. Exactly how I see it.

 

Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 23 Jun 24 8.12am

Players come and they go, the only loyalty is from the fans, Kamada is a good player and I suspect Franca will turn out good, if there’s no more release clauses no need to sell, IMO I would accept an 80m+ offer for Guehi, and reinvest in some championship talent

 


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lefty27 Flag ipswich 23 Jun 24 8.13am

Lot of speculation and a sprinkling of bitterness on here.
We can’t complain too much about the fee then we bought him for 8 million from a club on the verge of bankruptcy.
He showed loyalty last season by not going to Chelsea.
Bayern are a huge club and the German league is nothing the prem isn’t except better run clubs and better fans (except ours)!
Also how do we know that this isn’t part of the clubs plan? Maybe he has to be sold this summer for the model to work?


 

Palace Old Geezer Flag Midhurst 23 Jun 24 8.31am

Originally posted by lefty27

Lot of speculation and a sprinkling of bitterness on here.
We can’t complain too much about the fee then we bought him for 8 million from a club on the verge of bankruptcy.
He showed loyalty last season by not going to Chelsea.
Bayern are a huge club and the German league is nothing the prem isn’t except better run clubs and better fans (except ours)!
Also how do we know that this isn’t part of the clubs plan? Maybe he has to be sold this summer for the model to work?

At the end of next season, after Kompany is sacked for not winning the Bundesliga, Bayern will entice Ollie to be their manager and he will take Ebs with him so he can rejoin his old mate. That's probably not part of the plan.


Edited by Palace Old Geezer (23 Jun 2024 8.36am)

 


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lefty27 Flag ipswich 23 Jun 24 8.43am

Originally posted by Palace Old Geezer

At the end of next season, after Kompany is sacked for not winning the Bundesliga, Bayern will entice Ollie to be their manager and he will take Ebs with him so he can rejoin his old mate. That's probably not part of the plan.


Edited by Palace Old Geezer (23 Jun 2024 8.36am)

lol, bit dramatic. I’d be more pissed off if Ebs goes to Spurs or Newcastle this summer than Bayern next.
As for Olie he will only go to Bayern in your fantasy world if we have an amazing season.

 

PatrickA Flag London 23 Jun 24 8.50am

It's not so much bitterness, but it does lead to cynicism.
The next time a high profile player signs a 5 year contract and gives a press conference about being delighted to be committed to the club and having the long term future settled, fans will be entitled to query the sincerity of the whole process.
The contractual equivalent of kissing the badge at whichever club thry happen to play for.

Originally posted by lefty27

Lot of speculation and a sprinkling of bitterness on here.
We can’t complain too much about the fee then we bought him for 8 million from a club on the verge of bankruptcy.
He showed loyalty last season by not going to Chelsea.
Bayern are a huge club and the German league is nothing the prem isn’t except better run clubs and better fans (except ours)!
Also how do we know that this isn’t part of the clubs plan? Maybe he has to be sold this summer for the model to work?


 

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