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susmik PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 05 Jun 17 5.02pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 Of course it is but it has happened and Mrs May is responsible and accountable. What total and absolute bullsh1t and you know it... but there again with nothing between your ears I should have expected a stupid statement like that! Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.

susmik

PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 05 Jun 17 5.02pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Of course it is but it has happened and Mrs May is responsible and accountable.

What total and absolute bullsh1t and you know it... but there again with nothing between your ears I should have expected a stupid statement like that!

Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.

hedgehog50 Croydon 05 Jun 17 5.07pm
Originally posted by nickgusset As you cannot scroll... police were found to be institionally racist in some places if I recall. Would you rather they were allowed to carry on as they were? There has always been racism in all areas of society and there probably always will be. It is one of the reasons that mass immigration and multi-culturalism is so problematic. Certainly the police should be impartial, but the blanket 'institutionally racist' claims were I think greatly exaggerated and used by the left as another stick to beat the police and authorities, leading to some near lawless areas in many of our cities. We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

hedgehog50

Croydon 05 Jun 17 5.07pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

As you cannot scroll...

police were found to be institionally racist in some places if I recall. Would you rather they were allowed to carry on as they were?

There has always been racism in all areas of society and there probably always will be. It is one of the reasons that mass immigration and multi-culturalism is so problematic. Certainly the police should be impartial, but the blanket 'institutionally racist' claims were I think greatly exaggerated and used by the left as another stick to beat the police and authorities, leading to some near lawless areas in many of our cities.

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

Lyons550 Shirley 05 Jun 17 5.26pm
Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch And LAbour have been the same. Tories will privatise the NHS and make people pay. Challenge someone that it isnt in the manifesto and the response is, well it wouldnt be. Today a Labour councillor posted a MEME of May claiming she had said things regarding Lesbians. When challenged as to the origin of the quote she started to say well the Tories were vile [Tweet Link] Surely that'd do no more than affect the only gay in the village though? So no real harm done eh! The Voice of Reason In An Otherwise Mediocre World

Lyons550

Shirley 05 Jun 17 5.26pm

Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch

And LAbour have been the same. Tories will privatise the NHS and make people pay. Challenge someone that it isnt in the manifesto and the response is, well it wouldnt be.

Today a Labour councillor posted a MEME of May claiming she had said things regarding Lesbians. When challenged as to the origin of the quote she started to say well the Tories were vile

[Tweet Link]

Surely that'd do no more than affect the only gay in the village though? So no real harm done eh!

The Voice of Reason In An Otherwise Mediocre World

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 05 Jun 17 5.27pm
Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch And LAbour have been the same. Tories will privatise the NHS and make people pay. Challenge someone that it isnt in the manifesto and the response is, well it wouldnt be. Today a Labour councillor posted a MEME of May claiming she had said things regarding Lesbians. When challenged as to the origin of the quote she started to say well the Tories were vile [Tweet Link] Corbyn has never (in this election) gone for an ad hominem attack in his speeches. There have been several cases of May doing so.

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 05 Jun 17 5.27pm

Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch

And LAbour have been the same. Tories will privatise the NHS and make people pay. Challenge someone that it isnt in the manifesto and the response is, well it wouldnt be.

Today a Labour councillor posted a MEME of May claiming she had said things regarding Lesbians. When challenged as to the origin of the quote she started to say well the Tories were vile

[Tweet Link]

Corbyn has never (in this election) gone for an ad hominem attack in his speeches. There have been several cases of May doing so.

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 05 Jun 17 5.29pm
Originally posted by hedgehog50 There has always been racism in all areas of society and there probably always will be. It is one of the reasons that mass immigration and multi-culturalism is so problematic. Certainly the police should be impartial, but the blanket 'institutionally racist' claims were I think greatly exaggerated and used by the left as another stick to beat the police and authorities, leading to some near lawless areas in many of our cities. So although found to be institionally racist, it doesn't matter because of mass immigration causing racism, so isn't really their fault.

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 05 Jun 17 5.29pm

Originally posted by hedgehog50

So although found to be institionally racist, it doesn't matter because of mass immigration causing racism, so isn't really their fault.

CambridgeEagle Sydenham 05 Jun 17 5.32pm
Originally posted by Hansy Could that be because advisers to the Tories, believed that Cyber security needed more funds. Funding hasn't been cut and re-routed to May's back pockets, it had to be routed elsewhere; like the additional £1.9bn in cyber security spending announced in 2016. Or the £250m made available to Cyber Security start ups in 2015. Police numbers shouldn't be decreased, that I agree with. But I don't agree with 20,000 more police officers could of stopped someone acting alone and deciding to mow people down in the case of Westminster. It was rerouted to cuts in tax. The cuts have been ideological not an economic necessity. If that was the story it's not cutting through. More police would allow officers more time and resource to concentrate on responding to concerns from communities and monitoring people on their watch lists and ensuring their watch lists are as complete and appropriate as possible.

CambridgeEagle

Sydenham 05 Jun 17 5.32pm

Originally posted by Hansy

Could that be because advisers to the Tories, believed that Cyber security needed more funds. Funding hasn't been cut and re-routed to May's back pockets, it had to be routed elsewhere; like the additional £1.9bn in cyber security spending announced in 2016. Or the £250m made available to Cyber Security start ups in 2015.

Police numbers shouldn't be decreased, that I agree with. But I don't agree with 20,000 more police officers could of stopped someone acting alone and deciding to mow people down in the case of Westminster.

It was rerouted to cuts in tax. The cuts have been ideological not an economic necessity.

If that was the story it's not cutting through. More police would allow officers more time and resource to concentrate on responding to concerns from communities and monitoring people on their watch lists and ensuring their watch lists are as complete and appropriate as possible.

jamiemartin721 Reading 05 Jun 17 5.32pm
Originally posted by hedgehog50 There has always been racism in all areas of society and there probably always will be. It is one of the reasons that mass immigration and multi-culturalism is so problematic. Certainly the police should be impartial, but the blanket 'institutionally racist' claims were I think greatly exaggerated and used by the left as another stick to beat the police and authorities, leading to some near lawless areas in many of our cities. The words of the Independent McPherson Report. Sir William McPherson was a retired Judge, who served in the army (Captain), and was also a territorial member of the special air service (final rank Lt Colonel). He was knighted under Thatcher's government and had a reputation as one of the judiciaries top judges. Were his claims exaggerated. Incidently, he arguged that institutional racism was probably present in the NHS, The civil service, the judiciary and local government services (i.e. it wasn't unique to the police). "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]

jamiemartin721

Reading 05 Jun 17 5.32pm

Originally posted by hedgehog50

There has always been racism in all areas of society and there probably always will be. It is one of the reasons that mass immigration and multi-culturalism is so problematic. Certainly the police should be impartial, but the blanket 'institutionally racist' claims were I think greatly exaggerated and used by the left as another stick to beat the police and authorities, leading to some near lawless areas in many of our cities.

The words of the Independent McPherson Report.

Sir William McPherson was a retired Judge, who served in the army (Captain), and was also a territorial member of the special air service (final rank Lt Colonel). He was knighted under Thatcher's government and had a reputation as one of the judiciaries top judges.

Were his claims exaggerated. Incidently, he arguged that institutional racism was probably present in the NHS, The civil service, the judiciary and local government services (i.e. it wasn't unique to the police).

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
[Link]

CambridgeEagle Sydenham 05 Jun 17 5.34pm
Originally posted by Hansy That means it has been brought into account.... Magic money tree = Not being able to afford it, so unable to pass all on the manifesto. If I'd written "magic money tree" as an answer on one of my economics exams I would have earned very few marks.

CambridgeEagle

Sydenham 05 Jun 17 5.34pm

Originally posted by Hansy

That means it has been brought into account....

Magic money tree = Not being able to afford it, so unable to pass all on the manifesto.

If I'd written "magic money tree" as an answer on one of my economics exams I would have earned very few marks.

hedgehog50 Croydon 05 Jun 17 5.36pm
Originally posted by nickgusset So although found to be institionally racist, it doesn't matter because of mass immigration causing racism, so isn't really their fault. Well, as I say, it is just another element in the mass of problems caused by immigration and multi-culturalism. We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

hedgehog50

Croydon 05 Jun 17 5.36pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

So although found to be institionally racist, it doesn't matter because of mass immigration causing racism, so isn't really their fault.

Well, as I say, it is just another element in the mass of problems caused by immigration and multi-culturalism.

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

hedgehog50 Croydon 05 Jun 17 5.37pm
Originally posted by jamiemartin721 The words of the Independent McPherson Report. Sir William McPherson was a retired Judge, who served in the army (Captain), and was also a territorial member of the special air service (final rank Lt Colonel). He was knighted under Thatcher's government and had a reputation as one of the judiciaries top judges. Were his claims exaggerated. Incidently, he arguged that institutional racism was probably present in the NHS, The civil service, the judiciary and local government services (i.e. it wasn't unique to the police). Sure there was, and no doubt still is, in those institutions and others. As I have said it is a feature of the problems caused by immigration and multi-culturalism. We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

hedgehog50

Croydon 05 Jun 17 5.37pm

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

The words of the Independent McPherson Report.

Sure there was, and no doubt still is, in those institutions and others. As I have said it is a feature of the problems caused by immigration and multi-culturalism.

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

Hrolf The Ganger 05 Jun 17 5.38pm
Originally posted by jamiemartin721 The words of the Independent McPherson Report. Sir William McPherson was a retired Judge, who served in the army (Captain), and was also a territorial member of the special air service (final rank Lt Colonel). He was knighted under Thatcher's government and had a reputation as one of the judiciaries top judges. Were his claims exaggerated. Incidently, he arguged that institutional racism was probably present in the NHS, The civil service, the judiciary and local government services (i.e. it wasn't unique to the police). Racism exists everywhere. Hardly a shock. I dare say that if you lived in a predominantly black country you would experience racism all the time. I don't know why we even have these discussions. The whole subject of so called race is highly politically motivated.

Hrolf The Ganger

05 Jun 17 5.38pm

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

The words of the Independent McPherson Report.

Racism exists everywhere. Hardly a shock. I dare say that if you lived in a predominantly black country you would experience racism all the time.

I don't know why we even have these discussions. The whole subject of so called race is highly politically motivated.

Hrolf The Ganger 05 Jun 17 5.42pm
Originally posted by nickgusset So although found to be institionally racist, it doesn't matter because of mass immigration causing racism, so isn't really their fault. Childish drivel. Multi culture causes friction full stop. And large scale immigration causes a lot of it. A whole lot of the problem we face today are a result of mass immigration. It might have propped up our stagnating population and rescued a few pensions but the price had been too expensive.

Hrolf The Ganger

05 Jun 17 5.42pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

So although found to be institionally racist, it doesn't matter because of mass immigration causing racism, so isn't really their fault.

Childish drivel.

Multi culture causes friction full stop. And large scale immigration causes a lot of it. A whole lot of the problem we face today are a result of mass immigration.

It might have propped up our stagnating population and rescued a few pensions but the price had been too expensive.

Hansy 05 Jun 17 5.45pm
Originally posted by CambridgeEagle If I'd written "magic money tree" as an answer on one of my economics exams I would have earned very few marks. Luckily you're not a politician then.

Hansy

05 Jun 17 5.45pm

Originally posted by CambridgeEagle

If I'd written "magic money tree" as an answer on one of my economics exams I would have earned very few marks.

Luckily you're not a politician then.

CambridgeEagle Sydenham 05 Jun 17 5.48pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger Racism exists everywhere. Hardly a shock. I dare say that if you lived in a predominantly black country you would experience racism all the time. I don't know why we even have these discussions. The whole subject of so called race is highly politically motivated. "So called race". What does that even mean? How is it politically motivated? Are you suggesting that some parties are inherently racist or something? Which parties have polices guided by "so called race". There is no excuse for discrimination of any kind. The fact that it happens elsewhere is one of the reasons why we in the UK should be setting an example and eradicating discrimination in all its forms. You can't just blame migration and wash your hands of it. Everyone has a responsibility to minimise their prejudices and interact with others in a way that isn't biased by the colour of ones skin, gender or whatever. Politics has nothing to do with it.

CambridgeEagle

Sydenham 05 Jun 17 5.48pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Racism exists everywhere. Hardly a shock. I dare say that if you lived in a predominantly black country you would experience racism all the time.

I don't know why we even have these discussions. The whole subject of so called race is highly politically motivated.

"So called race". What does that even mean? How is it politically motivated? Are you suggesting that some parties are inherently racist or something? Which parties have polices guided by "so called race".

There is no excuse for discrimination of any kind. The fact that it happens elsewhere is one of the reasons why we in the UK should be setting an example and eradicating discrimination in all its forms. You can't just blame migration and wash your hands of it. Everyone has a responsibility to minimise their prejudices and interact with others in a way that isn't biased by the colour of ones skin, gender or whatever. Politics has nothing to do with it.

Kermit8 Hevon 05 Jun 17 5.54pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger Childish drivel. Multi culture causes friction full stop. And large scale immigration causes a lot of it. A whole lot of the problem we face today are a result of mass immigration. It might have propped up our stagnating population and rescued a few pensions but the price had been too expensive. That's silly talk. Did you see the amount of different nationalities reported in and around London Bridge/Borough on Saturday night, all mixed together having a good time, from all corners of the globe? It's a minority of multi-culture that causes friction. When the pieces don't fit together at all with absolutely no common ground. But as it stands, the vast majority do. There was a big hoo-hah when Afro-Caribbeans arrived but what do you know? We Brits and them found we did have things in common that they enjoyed and could be enjoyed together. Music,food,religion,dope, etc. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]

Kermit8

Hevon 05 Jun 17 5.54pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Childish drivel.

Multi culture causes friction full stop. And large scale immigration causes a lot of it. A whole lot of the problem we face today are a result of mass immigration.

It might have propped up our stagnating population and rescued a few pensions but the price had been too expensive.

That's silly talk. Did you see the amount of different nationalities reported in and around London Bridge/Borough on Saturday night, all mixed together having a good time, from all corners of the globe?

It's a minority of multi-culture that causes friction. When the pieces don't fit together at all with absolutely no common ground. But as it stands, the vast majority do. There was a big hoo-hah when Afro-Caribbeans arrived but what do you know? We Brits and them found we did have things in common that they enjoyed and could be enjoyed together. Music,food,religion,dope, etc.

Big chest and massive boobs

[Link]

Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 05 Jun 17 5.59pm
Originally posted by Lyons550 Surely that'd do no more than affect the only gay in the village though? So no real harm done eh! the dignified don't even enter in the game

Y Ddraig Goch

In The Crowd 05 Jun 17 5.59pm

Originally posted by Lyons550

Surely that'd do no more than affect the only gay in the village though? So no real harm done eh!

the dignified don't even enter in the game

hedgehog50 Croydon 05 Jun 17 6.04pm
Originally posted by CambridgeEagle "So called race". What does that even mean? How is it politically motivated? Are you suggesting that some parties are inherently racist or something? Which parties have polices guided by "so called race". There is no excuse for discrimination of any kind. The fact that it happens elsewhere is one of the reasons why we in the UK should be setting an example and eradicating discrimination in all its forms. You can't just blame migration and wash your hands of it. Everyone has a responsibility to minimise their prejudices and interact with others in a way that isn't biased by the colour of ones skin, gender or whatever. Politics has nothing to do with it. You lefties really don't understand human nature do you. We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

hedgehog50

Croydon 05 Jun 17 6.04pm

Originally posted by CambridgeEagle

You lefties really don't understand human nature do you.

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 05 Jun 17 6.07pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger Racism exists everywhere. Hardly a shock. I dare say that if you lived in a predominantly black country you would experience racism all the time. I don't know why we even have these discussions. The whole subject of so called race is highly politically motivated. Hedgehog said the left were wrong to highlight institutional racism in the police.

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 05 Jun 17 6.07pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Racism exists everywhere. Hardly a shock. I dare say that if you lived in a predominantly black country you would experience racism all the time.

I don't know why we even have these discussions. The whole subject of so called race is highly politically motivated.

Hedgehog said the left were wrong to highlight institutional racism in the police.

NKEagle Pyongyang 05 Jun 17 6.09pm
Originally posted by davenotamonkey Political heavyweights already weighing in with expert insight: [Tweet Link] With each successive day, I'm seeing more and more wisdom in these words. By the time all's said and done, this'll end up being the most intelligent assessment anyone's made.

NKEagle

Pyongyang 05 Jun 17 6.09pm

Originally posted by davenotamonkey

Political heavyweights already weighing in with expert insight:

[Tweet Link]

With each successive day, I'm seeing more and more wisdom in these words. By the time all's said and done, this'll end up being the most intelligent assessment anyone's made.

Hrolf The Ganger 05 Jun 17 6.11pm
Originally posted by CambridgeEagle "So called race". What does that even mean? How is it politically motivated? Are you suggesting that some parties are inherently racist or something? Which parties have polices guided by "so called race". There is no excuse for discrimination of any kind. The fact that it happens elsewhere is one of the reasons why we in the UK should be setting an example and eradicating discrimination in all its forms. You can't just blame migration and wash your hands of it. Everyone has a responsibility to minimise their prejudices and interact with others in a way that isn't biased by the colour of ones skin, gender or whatever. Politics has nothing to do with it. Really? That again In science there is no race. Not even a human race. Now after you have absorbed that, recognise that 'racism' is universal. 'Race' is mostly used as a self serving vehicle and the whole subject is very boring. Britain is extremely low on the 'racism' league which is amazing considering the long list of problems that multi culture has brought with it. Right now that multi culture is responsible for killing our kids. I don't think we need a lecture about our responsibilities in that department thanks.

Hrolf The Ganger

05 Jun 17 6.11pm

Originally posted by CambridgeEagle

"So called race". What does that even mean? How is it politically motivated? Are you suggesting that some parties are inherently racist or something? Which parties have polices guided by "so called race".

Really? That again
In science there is no race. Not even a human race.
Now after you have absorbed that, recognise that 'racism' is universal. 'Race' is mostly used as a self serving vehicle and the whole subject is very boring.

Britain is extremely low on the 'racism' league which is amazing considering the long list of problems that multi culture has brought with it. Right now that multi culture is responsible for killing our kids. I don't think we need a lecture about our responsibilities in that department thanks.

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