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 Willo  South coast - west of Brighton. 03 Jul 21 12.24pm |
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Originally posted by PatrickA
When Pulis walked on the eve of the season we had a settled squad of determined characters like Jedinak and Delaney to help us through. Certainly not an ideal situation and one can throw into the mix that Eze who has been so impressive will not be available until 2022. In the final analysis retaining older experienced players was cheaper than selling players with perhaps little re-sale value and buying players who would of course cost a tidy sum of money.Finances have dictated.The aged squad have of course kept us in the PL but now we are into a rebuilding phase. Edited by Willo (03 Jul 2021 12.25pm)
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| Maine Eagle USA 03 Jul 21 12.46pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
Certainly not an ideal situation and one can throw into the mix that Eze who has been so impressive will not be available until 2022. In the final analysis retaining older experienced players was cheaper than selling players with perhaps little re-sale value and buying players who would of course cost a tidy sum of money.Finances have dictated.The aged squad have of course kept us in the PL but now we are into a rebuilding phase. Edited by Willo (03 Jul 2021 12.25pm) Sadly for our rebuilding phase, we don’t have a builder yet.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 03 Jul 21 12.53pm |
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Originally posted by Maine Eagle
Sadly for our rebuilding phase, we don’t have a builder yet. "Bob the Builder" been seen in Copers Cope Road,Beckenham !
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| Painter Croydon 03 Jul 21 12.55pm |
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Originally posted by MonsterMunch
Because unfortunately you always post after it’s hit mainstream media. Take a look at my recent examples. When you’ve got pretty much every prediction wrong you should maybe vett your information a little more thoroughly than making defined predictions. Football fans take info on their club seriously and your recycling of information is not helpful when there’s already a lot of dissatisfaction for the club. If you are prepared to put yourself out there again and again with information then you should be prepared to take the criticism. Your track record is very poor so not sure what you are expecting. It’s obvious Twitter is your source. It’s a shame those on here fuel your ego trip which actually is not helpful for you. No need to keep digging Dazza out. There are plenty of football sites, that post anything that comes into their heads, do you regard them as gospel.
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| MonsterMunch Cambridge 03 Jul 21 1.04pm |
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Originally posted by Painter
No need to keep digging Dazza out. There are plenty of football sites, that post anything that comes into their heads, do you regard them as gospel. Interesting you use the word gullible. You are his target market. If you can’t stand the heat, get out the kitchen. Good day to you. Edited by MonsterMunch (03 Jul 2021 1.06pm)
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HKOwen  Hong Kong 03 Jul 21 1.21pm |
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Only the gullible regularly use guilble and regularily as words. Originally posted by Painter
No need to keep digging Dazza out. There are plenty of football sites, that post anything that comes into their heads, do you regard them as gospel.
Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance. |
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| Maine Eagle USA 03 Jul 21 1.24pm |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
In the 11 years of CPFC2010 there has only been one master plan with a coherent strategy that has worked and that is the way that Parish acquired the club as per the final chapter in Simon Jordan's book The second master plan that is partway to fruition is the upgrading of the academy to the top status in order to attract and develop the best talent from the local area. Time will tell if this has worked. Most of the other successes seem to be the result of luck in what I have called serendipity management. I was roundly derided years ago when I wondered out loud if we would have been promoted if it wasn't for the happy accident of having a young lad called Wilfried Zaha in our youth ranks. On occasions when we have had to dispense with managers due to the risk of relegation Parish has been fortunate to have anti relegation specialists like Pulis, Allardyce and Hodgson available to hire. Some of the transfer windows have been dreadful leaving us with huge gaps in our squad but by the biggest stroke of luck we have managed to survive. As you can see I am a sceptic when words and phrases like "master plans" and "strategy" are bandied about. If our next manager is to be Vieira and he is successful will it be down to a cleverly thought out strategy or just more of Parish's luck? No one is lucky forever. He hasn’t learned the lessons, we are still making the same old mistakes like this absolute farce of a manager search. You are correct about the one coherent and well executed proper plan being the actual purchase of the club itself all those years ago.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 03 Jul 21 1.38pm |
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Originally posted by Painter
No need to keep digging Dazza out. There are plenty of football sites, that post anything that comes into their heads, do you regard them as gospel. Dazza has faced excoriating assailants, but he has repeatedly asserted that he has only posted the information he has received from sources. I suspect he has posted in good faith,however when the details do not come to fruition on a fairly regular basis, a lack of credibility enters the equation. I know only too well, the picture can change, the ship can be blown off course so perhaps,on occasions, a dignified silence might be advisable. Let's not turn this into a 'Dazza thread'. Edited by Willo (03 Jul 2021 1.42pm)
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| Painter Croydon 03 Jul 21 2.23pm |
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Originally posted by HKOwen
Only the gullible regularly use guilble and regularily as words. What word would you use to describe people, who believe everything on social media, even though the source has been wrong countless times before?
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| Midlands Eagle 03 Jul 21 2.24pm |
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Originally posted by crystal-purley
It's not a rumour as Simon Jordan stated in the final chapter of his book that our whiter than white chairman colluded with the hedge fund to try and put Palace down so that the self styled "reluctant buyer" could grab it. Whilst Simon Jordan probably imparted a wedge of spin to some of his stories the same equally applies to Steve Parish
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| chris123 hove actually 03 Jul 21 2.41pm |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
It's not a rumour as Simon Jordan stated in the final chapter of his book that our whiter than white chairman colluded with the hedge fund to try and put Palace down so that the self styled "reluctant buyer" could grab it. Whilst Simon Jordan probably imparted a wedge of spin to some of his stories the same equally applies to Steve Parish Ignoring the fact that it was the day before liquidation surely?
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| TheBigToePunt 03 Jul 21 2.45pm |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
In the 11 years of CPFC2010 there has only been one master plan with a coherent strategy that has worked and that is the way that Parish acquired the club as per the final chapter in Simon Jordan's book The second master plan that is partway to fruition is the upgrading of the academy to the top status in order to attract and develop the best talent from the local area. Time will tell if this has worked. Most of the other successes seem to be the result of luck in what I have called serendipity management. I was roundly derided years ago when I wondered out loud if we would have been promoted if it wasn't for the happy accident of having a young lad called Wilfried Zaha in our youth ranks. On occasions when we have had to dispense with managers due to the risk of relegation Parish has been fortunate to have anti relegation specialists like Pulis, Allardyce and Hodgson available to hire. Some of the transfer windows have been dreadful leaving us with huge gaps in our squad but by the biggest stroke of luck we have managed to survive. As you can see I am a sceptic when words and phrases like "master plans" and "strategy" are bandied about. If our next manager is to be Vieira and he is successful will it be down to a cleverly thought out strategy or just more of Parish's luck? I agree with a lot of what you say here, but would see the same facts as proof of a different conclusion. We need to distinguish between areas of a football club where solid long term plans can be made, and those where all but the richest clubs have to react and think on thier feet, whilst keeping in mind that every success story in football needs a bit of luck. The things that can be subject to a long term plan generally have been (infrastructure, DoF model, training ground, academy, new stand next). The rest is reactive by its nature. You can't have concrete long term plans for volatile things like the transfer market. Parish has never pretended not to have had any luck along the way - quite the opposite - but has frequently spoken of trying to make the most of any luck we have had, which he by and large has done. Edited by TheBigToePunt (03 Jul 2021 2.53pm)
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Ajarn Jon aka AJ  Cha-am, Thailand 03 Jul 21 2.55pm |
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Originally posted by HKOwen
Why do you persist with the assertion you are somehow in the know or have a secret source. My theory is that somehow in your world it makes you superior to others not in your " position " Your faux sharing does not wash, neither does the " only passing on in good faith " angle. You have consistently been wrong. The great benefit of having a new manager appointed is that we can close this thread. Hopefully you will not then switch your attention to transfers. You are right that people can choose not to read your posts but you could assist there. Please stop, I don't believe anyone here views you as superior, rather deluded and somewhat to be pitied. Do you work in HR? Sounds like a bad worker's mid-year appraisal❤️💙
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| Midlands Eagle 03 Jul 21 3.04pm |
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Originally posted by TheBigToePunt
The rest is reactive by its nature. You can't have concrete long term plans for volatile things like the transfer market. True but we often don't seem to have short term plans either like the time when we released all of our strikers except one and didn't replace any of them with either loans or purchases preferring instead to keep our fingers tightly crossed and the less said about allowing half of your squad to be out of contract at the same time the better
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| TheBigToePunt 03 Jul 21 3.15pm |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
True but we often don't seem to have short term plans either like the time when we released all of our strikers except one and didn't replace any of them with either loans or purchases preferring instead to keep our fingers tightly crossed and the less said about allowing half of your squad to be out of contract at the same time the better We've all spent two years hoping the dead wood will be cleared out. I don't consider the current contract situation to be the consequence of negligence at all.
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| Midlands Eagle 03 Jul 21 3.40pm |
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Originally posted by TheBigToePunt
I don't consider the current contract situation to be the consequence of negligence at all. Then we shall agree to disagree
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| orpingtoneagle Orpington 03 Jul 21 3.42pm |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
It's not a rumour as Simon Jordan stated in the final chapter of his book that our whiter than white chairman colluded with the hedge fund to try and put Palace down so that the self styled "reluctant buyer" could grab it. Whilst Simon Jordan probably imparted a wedge of spin to some of his stories the same equally applies to Steve Parish I think Mr Jordan might have an agenda here. He had run out of money and the club was living on borrowed cash. He had borrowed from a secondary lender as the big financial institutions would not lend to a football club and if the lenders had not called in the debt someone else would have done.
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| Midlands Eagle 03 Jul 21 3.46pm |
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Originally posted by orpingtoneagle
I think Mr Jordan might have an agenda here. He had run out of money and the club was living on borrowed cash. He had borrowed from a secondary lender as the big financial institutions would not lend to a football club and if the lenders had not called in the debt someone else would have done. I doubt it as the only other major creditor was Jordan himself as he had reached agreement with HMRC
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