Female Dr Who?

This page is no longer updated, and is the old forum. For new topics visit the New HOL forum.

Female Dr Who?

Visit the current forum | Forum Rules

Page 2 of 23 < 1 2 3 4 5 6 >

Mr_Gristle In the land of Whelk Eaters 16 Jul 17 7.28pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays I find it more amusing than anything else. Something to mock. But this sh1t is being served up for our kids. In truth, a series written by wimps attempting social engineering for children is fine.....It hits a demographic out there...That's ok.....What bothers me is where's the alternatives? As it's public money funding this where's the series with traditional masculine and feminine characters? Why do we get this one trick pony of progressivism from the entertainment industry. There's a reason Game of Thrones is successful. All I see is this sea of beta males trying so desperately to be feminists that they might as well have falsettos and high heels and be done with it. Eddie Izzard would make a great Doctor :-) Well I think Simon's head is large; always involved in espionage. (Name that tune)

Mr_Gristle

In the land of Whelk Eaters 16 Jul 17 7.28pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I find it more amusing than anything else. Something to mock.

But this sh1t is being served up for our kids.

In truth, a series written by wimps attempting social engineering for children is fine.....It hits a demographic out there...That's ok.....What bothers me is where's the alternatives? As it's public money funding this where's the series with traditional masculine and feminine characters? Why do we get this one trick pony of progressivism from the entertainment industry.

There's a reason Game of Thrones is successful.

All I see is this sea of beta males trying so desperately to be feminists that they might as well have falsettos and high heels and be done with it.

Eddie Izzard would make a great Doctor :-)

Well I think Simon's head is large; always involved in espionage. (Name that tune)

wordup 16 Jul 17 7.28pm
Originally posted by leifandersonshair Lots of people who 'don't watch it' or 'don't give a toss' here but still decide to post about how silly and PC it is. If you don't watch it, who cares? Think its a good thing personally. At the end of the day, its a centuries old alien in a time machine. In a world where characters can and have changed gender in the past. No big deal. They have clearly chosen a very talented actress. Most fans of the show will like it. A few probably won't. The majority of people don't watch it and won't care- although maybe they might get a few more viewers next season. Some need help passing the hours I think. If we look for things to be offended by we'll find them. It will be half the picture though and it will pollute a realistic and relatable view of the world. Those drifting to the extremes of identity politics, both left and right, are forever banging two sides of the same drum. It's amusing to witness rather than get overly involved with.

wordup

16 Jul 17 7.28pm

Originally posted by leifandersonshair

Lots of people who 'don't watch it' or 'don't give a toss' here but still decide to post about how silly and PC it is.

If you don't watch it, who cares?

Think its a good thing personally. At the end of the day, its a centuries old alien in a time machine. In a world where characters can and have changed gender in the past. No big deal. They have clearly chosen a very talented actress.

Most fans of the show will like it. A few probably won't. The majority of people don't watch it and won't care- although maybe they might get a few more viewers next season.

Some need help passing the hours I think.

If we look for things to be offended by we'll find them. It will be half the picture though and it will pollute a realistic and relatable view of the world. Those drifting to the extremes of identity politics, both left and right, are forever banging two sides of the same drum. It's amusing to witness rather than get overly involved with.

YT Oxford 16 Jul 17 7.29pm
Regarding the chosen 'actor'. Would. Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)

Oxford 16 Jul 17 7.29pm

Regarding the chosen 'actor'.

Would.

Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)

Mr_Gristle In the land of Whelk Eaters 16 Jul 17 7.29pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays I think the lure of having a lesbian relationship on screen will be too much for them. You know they are going to go there. Sadly, I don't disagree. Well I think Simon's head is large; always involved in espionage. (Name that tune)

Mr_Gristle

In the land of Whelk Eaters 16 Jul 17 7.29pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I think the lure of having a lesbian relationship on screen will be too much for them.

You know they are going to go there.

Sadly, I don't disagree.

Well I think Simon's head is large; always involved in espionage. (Name that tune)

Stirlingsays 16 Jul 17 7.30pm
Originally posted by Mr_Gristle Eddie Izzard would make a great Doctor :-) You know what...I think you are spot on. Other worldness. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

16 Jul 17 7.30pm

Originally posted by Mr_Gristle

Eddie Izzard would make a great Doctor :-)

You know what...I think you are spot on.

Other worldness.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

YT Oxford 16 Jul 17 7.30pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays I think the lure of having a lesbian relationship on screen will be too much for them. You know they are going to go there. Regardless....for me...The Doctor shouldn't find anything human sexual.....It really pissed me off when they started with that. Do we even know if a Time Lord has a "doings"? Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)

Oxford 16 Jul 17 7.30pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I think the lure of having a lesbian relationship on screen will be too much for them.

You know they are going to go there.

Regardless....for me...The Doctor shouldn't find anything human sexual.....It really pissed me off when they started with that.

Do we even know if a Time Lord has a "doings"?

Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)

wordup 16 Jul 17 7.33pm
Originally posted by Mr_Gristle Sadly, I don't disagree. Time to get the Kleenex in then.

wordup

16 Jul 17 7.33pm

Originally posted by Mr_Gristle

Sadly, I don't disagree.

Time to get the Kleenex in then.

Hrolf The Ganger 16 Jul 17 7.34pm
Originally posted by wordup You appear to imagine that such a reference has simply emerged out of nowhere and that the topic in question has nothing to do with it. The fact of the matter is that it's the same melt down mentality of people flipping their wig over a black bond - because one hasn't come before - as it is a female dr who. Both are concerns of ultra sensitives. My comment is geared at the idea that a space alien character from another planet, able to assume human form, is from a narrative point of view, bound to express variety in various areas. Whether it's something done for said variety, to prop up a lagging series, or as some kind of equality angle, it will always get painted as solely the latter anyway, so they may as well get on with it and shut out the noise. Edited by wordup (16 Jul 2017 7.06pm) No. That is a self serving muddle of a post. Firstly Dr Who and James Bond are not comparable in this context. Bond is a White man because he was written that way. To make him Black would be a deliberate alteration of the whole character for the sole purpose of making him black. It would be as daft as making Shaft White. There is no reason why Dr Who could not be Black or female aside from explaining why he has been only male for the last 12 incarnations.I don't recall if Galifraens have ever Black before but that can be reasonably overlooked in the pursuit of inclusivity but only proportionately to the population if that is the aim. Obviously, aliens are generally portrayed by white people because they are playing to a predominantly white audience and thre is a predominance of White actors. That is still he case. If it were produced in Africa then almost of the aliens would be Black no doubt. Using your logic, no human could pay an alien because the chances of aliens being entirely human looking would be extremely low one would assume. You might get away with a percentage in make up. The reality is that practical matters detirmine what aliens look like in TV programmes.

Hrolf The Ganger

16 Jul 17 7.34pm

Originally posted by wordup

You appear to imagine that such a reference has simply emerged out of nowhere and that the topic in question has nothing to do with it.

The fact of the matter is that it's the same melt down mentality of people flipping their wig over a black bond - because one hasn't come before - as it is a female dr who. Both are concerns of ultra sensitives.

My comment is geared at the idea that a space alien character from another planet, able to assume human form, is from a narrative point of view, bound to express variety in various areas. Whether it's something done for said variety, to prop up a lagging series, or as some kind of equality angle, it will always get painted as solely the latter anyway, so they may as well get on with it and shut out the noise.

Edited by wordup (16 Jul 2017 7.06pm)

No. That is a self serving muddle of a post.

Firstly Dr Who and James Bond are not comparable in this context. Bond is a White man because he was written that way. To make him Black would be a deliberate alteration of the whole character for the sole purpose of making him black. It would be as daft as making Shaft White. There is no reason why Dr Who could not be Black or female aside from explaining why he has been only male for the last 12 incarnations.I don't recall if Galifraens have ever Black before but that can be reasonably overlooked in the pursuit of inclusivity but only proportionately to the population if that is the aim.
Obviously, aliens are generally portrayed by white people because they are playing to a predominantly white audience and thre is a predominance of White actors. That is still he case. If it were produced in Africa then almost of the aliens would be Black no doubt.
Using your logic, no human could pay an alien because the chances of aliens being entirely human looking would be extremely low one would assume. You might get away with a percentage in make up. The reality is that practical matters detirmine what aliens look like in TV programmes.

Stirlingsays 16 Jul 17 7.36pm
Originally posted by YT Do we even know if a Time Lord has a "doings"? A 'doings'....God, I hope not....'Come into my Tardis and look at what's going on with my doings'. It can't be healthy viewing. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

16 Jul 17 7.36pm

Originally posted by YT

Do we even know if a Time Lord has a "doings"?

A 'doings'....God, I hope not....'Come into my Tardis and look at what's going on with my doings'.

It can't be healthy viewing.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

DanH SW2 16 Jul 17 7.44pm
Absolutely superb decision from Beeb; only for the amount of piss it's boiled online from maximum d*ckheads.

DanH

SW2 16 Jul 17 7.44pm

Absolutely superb decision from Beeb; only for the amount of piss it's boiled online from maximum d*ckheads.

Stirlingsays 16 Jul 17 7.45pm
It's the obvious 'progressive' agenda stuff that gets on my wick. Announcing it after the men's tennis final...I mean how obvious can it get. It isn't really the option of a female Doctor...if the actor is good enough then cool if it works....I know there are some really good black actors who could do it. For me, it's the frigging limp wristed overtly obvious politically correct writing. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

16 Jul 17 7.45pm

It's the obvious 'progressive' agenda stuff that gets on my wick. Announcing it after the men's tennis final...I mean how obvious can it get.

It isn't really the option of a female Doctor...if the actor is good enough then cool if it works....I know there are some really good black actors who could do it.

For me, it's the frigging limp wristed overtly obvious politically correct writing.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays 16 Jul 17 7.46pm
Originally posted by DanH Absolutely superb decision from Beeb; only for the amount of piss it's boiled online from maximum d*ckheads. At least they have a d1ck. Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Jul 2017 7.47pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

16 Jul 17 7.46pm

Originally posted by DanH

Absolutely superb decision from Beeb; only for the amount of piss it's boiled online from maximum d*ckheads.

At least they have a d1ck.

Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Jul 2017 7.47pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Hrolf The Ganger 16 Jul 17 7.47pm
Originally posted by DanH Absolutely superb decision from Beeb; only for the amount of piss it's boiled online from maximum d*ckheads. Sums you up nicely. It was a most predictable BBC decision in fact.

Hrolf The Ganger

16 Jul 17 7.47pm

Originally posted by DanH

Absolutely superb decision from Beeb; only for the amount of piss it's boiled online from maximum d*ckheads.

Sums you up nicely.

It was a most predictable BBC decision in fact.

DanH SW2 16 Jul 17 7.50pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays At least they have a d1ck. Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Jul 2017 7.47pm) It must have to be seriously tiny to be bothered about a fictional kids' tv character being a woman.

DanH

SW2 16 Jul 17 7.50pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

At least they have a d1ck.

Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Jul 2017 7.47pm)

It must have to be seriously tiny to be bothered about a fictional kids' tv character being a woman.

wordup 16 Jul 17 7.53pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger No. That is a self serving muddle of a post. Firstly Dr Who and James Bond are not comparable in this context. Bond is a White man because he was written that way. To make him Black would be a deliberate alteration of the whole character for the sole purpose of making him black. It would be as daft as making Shaft White. There is no reason why Dr Who could not be Black or female aside from explaining why he has been only male for the last 12 incarnations.I don't recall if Galifraens have ever Black before but that can be reasonably overlooked in the pursuit of inclusivity but only proportionately to the population if that is the aim. [Link] Using your logic, no human could pay an alien because the chances of aliens being entirely human looking would be extremely low one would assume. You might get away with a percentage in make up. The reality is that practical matters detirmine what aliens look like in TV programmes. You're entitled to your view. Unlike you, I'm not going to lose sleep over what colour bond is, or if his hair cut or inside leg measurements match the books, i'll leave that to you. I've seen every Bond film and I'll continue to do so without a list of requirements going in. Edited by wordup (16 Jul 2017 7.57pm)

wordup

16 Jul 17 7.53pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

No. That is a self serving muddle of a post.

Firstly Dr Who and James Bond are not comparable in this context. Bond is a White man because he was written that way. To make him Black would be a deliberate alteration of the whole character for the sole purpose of making him black. It would be as daft as making Shaft White. There is no reason why Dr Who could not be Black or female aside from explaining why he has been only male for the last 12 incarnations.I don't recall if Galifraens have ever Black before but that can be reasonably overlooked in the pursuit of inclusivity but only proportionately to the population if that is the aim.
[Link]
Using your logic, no human could pay an alien because the chances of aliens being entirely human looking would be extremely low one would assume. You might get away with a percentage in make up. The reality is that practical matters detirmine what aliens look like in TV programmes.

You're entitled to your view. Unlike you, I'm not going to lose sleep over what colour bond is, or if his hair cut or inside leg measurements match the books, i'll leave that to you. I've seen every Bond film and I'll continue to do so without a list of requirements going in.

Edited by wordup (16 Jul 2017 7.57pm)

Stirlingsays 16 Jul 17 7.54pm
Originally posted by DanH It must have to be seriously tiny to be bothered about a fictional kids' tv character being a woman. Come on, nothing wrong with having a seriously tiny dick. You know that. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

16 Jul 17 7.54pm

Originally posted by DanH

It must have to be seriously tiny to be bothered about a fictional kids' tv character being a woman.

Come on, nothing wrong with having a seriously tiny dick. You know that.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Hrolf The Ganger 16 Jul 17 7.55pm
Originally posted by DanH It must have to be seriously tiny to be bothered about a fictional kids' tv character being a woman. Dr Who has always been a bit of a barometer of British attitudes, or at least, those thrust upon us, so I think it's a reasonable discussion. One could argue that all TV is garbage and a waste of life.

Hrolf The Ganger

16 Jul 17 7.55pm

Originally posted by DanH

It must have to be seriously tiny to be bothered about a fictional kids' tv character being a woman.

Dr Who has always been a bit of a barometer of British attitudes, or at least, those thrust upon us, so I think it's a reasonable discussion.
One could argue that all TV is garbage and a waste of life.

Stirlingsays 16 Jul 17 8.00pm
Originally posted by wordup You're entitled to your view. Unlike you, I'm not going to lose sleep over what colour bond is, or if his hair cut or inside leg measurements match the book, i'll leave that to you. I've seen every Bond film and I'll continue to do so without a list of requirements going in. Edited by wordup (16 Jul 2017 7.54pm) Bond is a bit different. He's an Ian Fleming character and he's described as white....what is it... Scottish father and Swiss mother...pretty detailed. Like Shaft it would be a bit off going against that. Shaft being black is kind of the point....Mind you it could be done....I mean you can be Scottish and Swiss and identify as English and not be white of course. I'm not against the idea in principle...But it is going against the books.....Still, as long as it wasn't done for tokenism Meritocracy. Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Jul 2017 8.07pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

16 Jul 17 8.00pm

Originally posted by wordup

You're entitled to your view. Unlike you, I'm not going to lose sleep over what colour bond is, or if his hair cut or inside leg measurements match the book, i'll leave that to you. I've seen every Bond film and I'll continue to do so without a list of requirements going in.

Edited by wordup (16 Jul 2017 7.54pm)

Bond is a bit different. He's an Ian Fleming character and he's described as white....what is it... Scottish father and Swiss mother...pretty detailed.

Like Shaft it would be a bit off going against that. Shaft being black is kind of the point....Mind you it could be done....I mean you can be Scottish and Swiss and identify as English and not be white of course.

I'm not against the idea in principle...But it is going against the books.....Still, as long as it wasn't done for tokenism

Meritocracy.

Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Jul 2017 8.07pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 16 Jul 17 8.02pm
I recall watching 'Doctor Who' with William Hartnell when it first came out in 1963. My wife has told me she used to get very frightened at times and used to hide behind the settee !

Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 16 Jul 17 8.02pm

I recall watching 'Doctor Who' with William Hartnell when it first came out in 1963.
My wife has told me she used to get very frightened at times and used to hide behind the settee !

Hrolf The Ganger 16 Jul 17 8.02pm
Originally posted by wordup You're entitled to your view. Unlike you, I'm not going to lose sleep over what colour bond is, or if his hair cut or inside leg measurements match the books, i'll leave that to you. I've seen every Bond film and I'll continue to do so without a list of requirements going in. Edited by wordup (16 Jul 2017 7.57pm) How much sleep you or I get is beside the point. James Bond is a White man because the books say so. No Black man could play Bond in the same way that no White man could play Shaft.

Hrolf The Ganger

16 Jul 17 8.02pm

Originally posted by wordup

You're entitled to your view. Unlike you, I'm not going to lose sleep over what colour bond is, or if his hair cut or inside leg measurements match the books, i'll leave that to you. I've seen every Bond film and I'll continue to do so without a list of requirements going in.

Edited by wordup (16 Jul 2017 7.57pm)

How much sleep you or I get is beside the point. James Bond is a White man because the books say so. No Black man could play Bond in the same way that no White man could play Shaft.

Page 2 of 23 < 1 2 3 4 5 6 >

Crystal Palace FC Supporters' Website - The Holmesdale Online

Female Dr Who?

Site Map