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BeckenhamSteve Flag beckenham 04 Nov 18 2.41pm

I'm sure we will keep him for a few more years.
One thing we cannot criticise our board of
directors for doing is selling off our star talent quickly or cheaply. Take Wilf for example didn't SP oppose Pulis who wanted to sell him? Ever since he has done his utmost to keep him at the club.

 

Chubskip Flag 04 Nov 18 4.12pm

I could see him replacing Young at Moan U. Then we could buy him back when they don't play him. Best he stays here for a couple of more season's, unless we go..... Don't even go there.

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards grumpymort Flag US/Thailand/UK 04 Nov 18 8.08pm

I can't see any one coming in for him it's still early days.

He may look very good at times for us but he could be another player that looks great when young and doesn't progress.

If you really watch him he is no where near good enough for big teams and even if they did go for him he would sit on the bench

 


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Jefroc Flag Crete 07 Nov 18 12.17pm

This post has been merged from a topic called 'awb' by bexleydave

A faint suggestion in the Guardian today that City are after him! No doubt the first of many such mentions!

 


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eagleman13 Flag On The Road To Hell & Alicante 07 Nov 18 1.15pm

This post has been merged from a topic called 'awb' by bexleydave

Also here . . .

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This is also on the BBC 'gossip' column citing the 'Mirror' & the Daily Fail mentions it online. Same news, just re-jigged depending which media outlet it comes from.

 


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Fontc Flag Croydon 07 Nov 18 5.56pm

I have seen recently that Egbo, at the age of 21, has mainly been playing for Monchengladbach reserves with limited appearances for the first team. Interestingly, if he was still at the club, would it have been him in the 1st team instead of AWB? I think seeing young English players going to the Bundesliga for more game time is a positive but seems to have worked against him on this occasion.

Nonetheless, very happy with the outcome and how well AWB is doing!

 

FairweatherEagle Flag London 07 Nov 18 6.35pm

Originally posted by grumpymort

I can't see any one coming in for him it's still early days.

He may look very good at times for us but he could be another player that looks great when young and doesn't progress.

If you really watch him he is no where near good enough for big teams and even if they did go for him he would sit on the bench

Agree he is not good enough yet but not to the extent you're making out. Needs to improve his awareness and such and then he'll be a top player.


Edited by FairweatherEagle (07 Nov 2018 6.36pm)

 

.TUX. Flag 07 Nov 18 6.50pm

Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle

Like many of you I have over the years witnessed us develop some amazing players such as Sansom and Wright, only to sell them and then see the team fall apart. We need to keep our stars such as AWB and Zaha if we are to survive and ultimately push on.

Love this lad, needs to work on his positioning at times but that will come with experience. See him in the England team within two years, we just need to make sure he's still then playing for Palace.

All the while we're stuck in a s*** stadium we won't ''push on'' imo.
Enjoy any gem that we have for as long as we have them and wish them well when they leave.
Both Wilf and AWB should be looking for Top 6 (should they want a move) to progress their careers. Yeah, it may well mean sitting on the bench at times but ultimately it'll be better in the long run than flogging their chuddies-off week in week out for the glory of what, continually finishing mid-table?
Moving is (generally) what good players do/need to progress.

 


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PatrickA Flag London 07 Nov 18 6.53pm

Sadly I believe there is some truth in these stories despite the disreputable sources and questionable activities of agents.
City seemed determined to achieve world domination which means hoovering up all the best young talent regardless of whether they are currently needed.
They already have Walker (2 and Danilo (27) so are not exactly short in the right back position.
However, Wann Bissaka is an exceptional talent and has a temperament which looks like nothing fazes him and he’s only going to get better.
Having said that he has only played a dozen or so games for the first team and Palace recently gave him a new contract.
As long as he’s happy to continue his development with us I don’t see him leaving any time soon.

 

Dean_CPFC Flag South london 07 Nov 18 7.06pm

You would hope he would look at the Zaha example of leaving too soon and realise that he should take his time. Hopefully the lad has his feet grounded and is getting good advice (from people who aren;t his agent!)

Edited by Dean_CPFC (07 Nov 2018 7.07pm)

 

Maine Eagle Flag USA 27 Nov 18 5.05pm

I reckon we will receive bids.

He is at a stage now where he will be expensive but if he keeps getting better it could get off the charts, so clubs will look at him. The potential for this lad is mind boggling. He could be a regular for England for years.

With the need for a striker looming large, can Parish resist some fast cash?

 


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Frickin Saweet Flag South Cronx 27 Nov 18 5.13pm

If it meant we could buy a striker who can actually score then I'd sell him. We have lesser but adequate cover at right-back and it's not a position that will get us relegated. There is no escaping the fact that we do not have any capable strikers at the club and it needs fixing.

Of course if we can get a striker in without selling AWB then great but if not he's the one we'd make the most and lose the least (in terms of our overall game) from.

 

Sherlock Holmesdale Flag Milton Keynes 27 Nov 18 6.37pm

Originally posted by BeckenhamSteve

I'm sure we will keep him for a few more years.
One thing we cannot criticise our board of
directors for doing is selling off our star talent quickly or cheaply. Take Wilf for example didn't SP oppose Pulis who wanted to sell him? Ever since he has done his utmost to keep him at the club.

Pulis left just before Wilf joined. I think Pulis opposed the signing of Wilf whereas Parish (rightly) was determined to re-sign him

 

SouthLondonAP Flag Near Earth Orbit 27 Nov 18 8.59pm

Originally posted by Mr Palaceman

Hmm, didn't the club just tie him down to a new contract !!

I would suggest that he will be going nowhere soon. It's not in the clubs or the players interest.

And certainly not for a player that has slated Palace at every opportunity, since he "rejected" us when we were interested.

Clubs tend to tie players down to a longer contract to boost their value. We gave Gayle a new contract then sold him in the next window.

That said I would hope that we don't sell him but I think the question is who are we going to sell to fund squad building? AWB or Zaha.

It's clear we don't have decent money until we have the new stand so someone worth good money will have to go to fund 5 or 6 good quality players coming in.

 


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SouthLondonAP Flag Near Earth Orbit 27 Nov 18 9.04pm

Originally posted by Sherlock Holmesdale

Pulis left just before Wilf joined. I think Pulis opposed the signing of Wilf whereas Parish (rightly) was determined to re-sign him

I agree that the decision to re-sign Zaha was right but I question a chairman overruling a manager on player purchasing.

We've heard over the last few years about Chelsea buying players the manager didn't want. It ends up with a manager playing a way he doesn't want to play or a player playing out of position.

Would I have preferred Pulis to have stayed instead of re-signing Zaha? Of course my view is distorted by what Pulis did and how Zaha has turned out.

I have to admit that at the time I would probably have chosen to keep Pulis baring in mind how our season ended (Crystambul and so on).

We'd have kept Murray, Gayle, Jedi and who knows where we'd be as a team now? I doubt we'd be top 8 but I think we'd have been more stable.

 


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chateauferret Flag 27 Nov 18 10.34pm

Originally posted by Sherlock Holmesdale

Pulis left just before Wilf joined. I think Pulis opposed the signing of Wilf whereas Parish (rightly) was determined to re-sign him

If Pulis did what he did because of Wilf then he's an even bigger arsehole than I thought.

 


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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 27 Nov 18 11.19pm

Originally posted by chateauferret

If Pulis did what he did because of Wilf then he's an even bigger arsehole than I thought.

There wasn’t a queue trying to sign Wilf after Man U and Cardiff though was there? In fact I don’t recall anyone else in for him.

Pulis is a cvnt but we had trust and belief he’d keep us up that next season, even if he went and signed the usual overpriced basic skill level that we’d be lumbered with for the rest of their contract and eventually hamstringing us, which I was opposed to at the time. As it turns out we’ve done that ever since if you stop and look. And who wanted them? Parish, the yanks, Pardew with CB and not Frank with Sakho? Any combination of those 3? Ok Benteke & Sakho were better or higher profile but still came at a huge price we could’ve saved if we had the right infrastructure in place, something Pulis was talking about a bit that summer and his walks on Sandbanks with Parish before they both knew working together would forever be a problem.


Edited by Rudi Hedman (27 Nov 2018 11.19pm)

 


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Vaibow Flag vancouver/croydon 27 Nov 18 11.45pm

Pains me to say, but i feel Wilf is off this summer, unless injury or dramatic misfortune on his behalf or fortune on ours.

Let's say we generate 50 mil profit from that.

I also think that AWB is obviously destined for bigger things and would look to be making the step up that summer or next too. He too, could be sold and generate 30-40 mil when you think of how much others are going for.

So this summer - we have choice, do we keep AWB and match his desire and build a team at cost to compete for silver wear (cups mainly) and be a vehicle for AWB and probably lose him regardless in 2020.

Or do we sell them both and completely remould the squad - finally be settled and move forward as a mid table team.

I'd say cash in this summer on both with AWB staying back on loan, ideally, start fresh. I know it sounds bonkers to some, but we desperately need cash and a plan

 


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taylors lovechild Flag 28 Nov 18 7.05am

Originally posted by Vaibow

Pains me to say, but i feel Wilf is off this summer, unless injury or dramatic misfortune on his behalf or fortune on ours.

Let's say we generate 50 mil profit from that.

I also think that AWB is obviously destined for bigger things and would look to be making the step up that summer or next too. He too, could be sold and generate 30-40 mil when you think of how much others are going for.

So this summer - we have choice, do we keep AWB and match his desire and build a team at cost to compete for silver wear (cups mainly) and be a vehicle for AWB and probably lose him regardless in 2020.

Or do we sell them both and completely remould the squad - finally be settled and move forward as a mid table team.

I'd say cash in this summer on both with AWB staying back on loan, ideally, start fresh. I know it sounds bonkers to some, but we desperately need cash and a plan

If Wilf and AWB were to push for moves then I guess we should cash in or risk an unhappy dressing room, but I don't agree that it should be the club's decision to sell. Nowadays real quality costs money and unless you have an amazing scouting network then you end up either paying big sums for known quantities or you get average players. Watching the likes of Burnley and Huddersfield it made me shudder at the thought of life after Wilf. Yes they might get results, but where is the entertainment? Also, this argument about a rightback not being so important is blind to the way we play. We rely on our fullbacks for both defending and attacking. It is fundamental to our setup, especially with Roy playing a narrow midfield. When Ward was playing teams began targeting him because of his woeful lack of pace, while conversely AWB has saved us countless times already with his pace and extendable spider legs.

If the worst happened and we were relegated then no doubt they'd both go but otherwise I hope we build around them. We really aren't that far away from a very good team anyway.

 

The Dolphin Flag 28 Nov 18 7.11am

Originally posted by chateauferret

If Pulis did what he did because of Wilf then he's an even bigger arsehole than I thought.

Apparently he did just that!

 

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