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EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 30 Jun 20 4.34pm

Originally posted by Willo

This is the sole objective and he has met it season on season on a limited budget - A Board's dream!
The fact that he has assured our survival is some feat.

Norwich have played more expansive football than us but they will be relegated.Their supporters would far rather be in our shoes!


Edited by Willo (30 Jun 2020 4.23pm)

Why should we spend £600+ a season to satisfy the board’s dream? My dream is to see us score some goals and win a few games, even if it comes at the expense of consistently being supposedly hard to beat.

Near enough every team in the league plays more expansively than us, it’s not a guarantee of anything - Sheff Utd have absolutely torn it up with a vastly inferior squad and budget to ours, playing some brilliant stuff. We had a much softer belly under Pardew but reached a cup final and used to occasionally turn people over 4 or 5-0 at home - why can’t we do it again?

It’s ridiculous to think that after 7 years in the prem this is the best we could dare hope to achieve.

 
Eaglecoops Flag CR3 30 Jun 20 4.39pm

Originally posted by Willo

This is the sole objective and he has met it season on season on a limited budget - A Board's dream!
The fact that he has assured our survival is some feat.

Norwich have played more expansive football than us but they will be relegated.Their supporters would far rather be in our shoes!


Edited by Willo (30 Jun 2020 4.23pm)

Objection your Honour.... Speculation!

 
Bexley Eagle Flag Bexley Kent 30 Jun 20 4.48pm

e need to be careful what we wish for the lower leagues are littered with teams that have got ahead of their station. Roy has done a marvellous job on a relative shoestring. He should stay.

 
Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 30 Jun 20 4.50pm

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Why should we spend £600+ a season to satisfy the board’s dream? My dream is to see us score some goals and win a few games, even if it comes at the expense of consistently being supposedly hard to beat.

Near enough every team in the league plays more expansively than us, it’s not a guarantee of anything - Sheff Utd have absolutely torn it up with a vastly inferior squad and budget to ours, playing some brilliant stuff. We had a much softer belly under Pardew but reached a cup final and used to occasionally turn people over 4 or 5-0 at home - why can’t we do it again?

It’s ridiculous to think that after 7 years in the prem this is the best we could dare hope to achieve.

Sheff Utd have spent nigh on £62 Mill this season and are only 2 points ahead of us in the league.

 
beak Flag croydon 30 Jun 20 5.07pm

I'm very hay with Roy as manager,are there fans who wished to stick with FDB ?

 
PatrickA Flag London 30 Jun 20 5.08pm

Perhaps it should be recognised that Hodgson is not the only manager who can keep us up.
Pulis, Pardew and Allardyce managed this feat too - and in the case of Pulis with a much weaker squad.
Much of the attraction of Hodgson is I’m afraid lost on me.
We are in the top ten of the league in terms of wage bill and have a squad packed with experienced international players.
This to me does not equate with his being a miracle worker by keeping us up.
For me he is a bang average manager who is likely to keep you in the division and for many this will be enough.
I like my football a little more exciting and dislike our being around the top of the table for being the lowest scorers at home in the league.
We can’t even complain we’ve been unlucky at home as we aim to keep each game 0-0 for as long as possible hoping to kill off the opposition through tedium.

 
joe_cpfc Flag Basingstoke 30 Jun 20 5.08pm

Yes yes and another yes. I never thought I would not look forward to a Palace game but if I'm honest I haven't got excited about a game since he's been here. Its some of the worst football anyone can watch. At the same time it feels wrong to say that because of where we've finished in the table while he's been here but I'd rather take the risk and have a complete backroom overhaul. I'm also sick of hearing Lewington screaming "well done" to players just for charging around like a headless chicken chasing after the ball for 90 minutes, its exactly what I hear at my kids u8's games from the coaches. Burnley have good players but if they can play the sort of football we saw last night then we definitely can with what we've got. I remember Glen Johnson saying that he'd always play not to concede instead of playing to score and thats why everyone hated him at Liverpool. I can't wait for the day he leaves but I'd also thank him, sort of.

 
HerneBayPalace Flag Herne Bay 30 Jun 20 5.23pm

I don't want to push more doom and gloom on others after the Burnley game and I am a Hodgson fan (more often than not).

After yesterday, I've had a look on the official Premier League website at some of the stats for us this season, assuming these are up to date from last night.

We rank mostly top or bottom (bad in both senses) in almost every available stat provided.

•12 goals in 16 home games (20th)- A goal every 120 minutes.

•100 shots on target in 32 matches (18th) - 3.125 shots on target per game.

•Average of 382 passes per game (16th) - For every minute Palace are on the pitch, we complete 4.24 passes.

•314 shots at goal (18th) - 9.81 shots at goal per game

•Dispossessed 397 times in 32 games (1st) - We have lost the ball the most times out of all teams this season. This is an average of 12.4 times per game.

If these aren't up to date, then they'll be even worse.

This list doesn't include least offside's, least big chances missed and least times hitting the woodwork. You can put a spin on it and say that we take our opportunities, but really it points towards our extreme lack of creativity.

I am happy with how the season has gone and where we are in the table, but just taking a look back to date is pretty disappointing.

One stat matters and that is the table, but we just lack the cutting edge and it shows.

 
braunstoneagle Flag the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 30 Jun 20 5.52pm

flipping ‘ell...the boards bonkers.

lucky you guys arnt in charge of the club or we would be proper screwed.

 

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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 30 Jun 20 5.56pm

What it shows is we could easily have been fighting relegation. I said this at the start of the season. We’ve had a bit more luck or the goals have come at the right times. Hodgson plays the % chances and it’s a frustrating watch. But unless we have someone good lined up it would be a bit risky to change managers without a decent budget.

 

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Cucking Funt Flag Clapham on the Back 30 Jun 20 5.56pm

Originally posted by Bexley Eagle

e need to be careful what we wish for the lower leagues are littered with teams that have got ahead of their station. Roy has done a marvellous job on a relative shoestring. He should stay.

Nailed it.

As others (too few, sadly) have said, be careful what you wish for. Look at Charlton and the way they disintegrated after ditching Curbishley in vain pursuit of 'the next level'. We are not a large club and it's unrealistic at this time to aspire to European qualification - poor infrastructure, poor stadium and limited budget make such dreams unachievable.

Blaming Hodgson for all this is astonishing and is the thought process of someone with a very tenuous grip on reality.

Seriously, get your heads out of your arses if you think that getting rid of Hodgson is the answer to your prayers. He's played a blinder, balancing zero resources against the demands of a vain and egotistic Chairman, a feat not achieved since Coppell. Without him, we'd be mid-table championship level (if that) today.

 

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BlueJay Flag UK 30 Jun 20 6.08pm

If we're honest, we're lucky not to be further down the table right now. The board would likely say he's kept us up so job done but others have done that in the past, so he's hardly a miracle worker. Besides, don't we have to be a little more aspirational than that long term? I'm not saying get rid and replace with with just anybody, but if capable and aspirational manager comes along and is up for the task, we should make the leap.

 
Cucking Funt Flag Clapham on the Back 30 Jun 20 6.16pm

Originally posted by BlueJay

If we're honest, we're lucky not to be further down the table right now. The board would likely say he's kept us up so job done but others have done that in the past, so he's hardly a miracle worker. Besides, don't we have to be a little more aspirational than that long term? I'm not saying get rid and replace with with just anybody, but if capable and aspirational manager comes along and is up for the task, we should make the leap.

Nothing wrong with being inspirational but the infrastructure at the club needs radical improvement before it can become reality. European football would slaughter us.

 

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Eaglecoops Flag CR3 30 Jun 20 6.21pm

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

Nailed it.

As others (too few, sadly) have said, be careful what you wish for. Look at Charlton and the way they disintegrated after ditching Curbishley in vain pursuit of 'the next level'. We are not a large club and it's unrealistic at this time to aspire to European qualification - poor infrastructure, poor stadium and limited budget make such dreams unachievable.

Blaming Hodgson for all this is astonishing and is the thought process of someone with a very tenuous grip on reality.

Seriously, get your heads out of your arses if you think that getting rid of Hodgson is the answer to your prayers. He's played a blinder, balancing zero resources against the demands of a vain and egotistic Chairman, a feat not achieved since Coppell. Without him, we'd be mid-table championship level (if that) today.

Is that a no then?

 
PatrickA Flag London 30 Jun 20 6.37pm

I would swap Hodgson for a Sean Dyche or Chris Wilder in a heartbeat.
Not born in Croydon I grant you, but consistently getting the best out of their resources over relatively long periods of time.
And not ,by the way , with squads packed with experienced internationals or with clubs with a wage bill in the top half of the Premier League.
And incidentally they play two up front and recognise that football is about attacking as well as defending.

 
Ali_Campbell Flag New Addington 30 Jun 20 6.56pm

HELL NO from me.
Anyone wanting Dyche, go and look at what Burnley fan’s think of him. Their style of football is similar to ours. Also, I think that is the first time Burnley have not lost against us in 5 previous meetings I believe.

I get the football ain’t great, but I’m all about winning and staying in the premier league. Brighton away was unbelievable.

Finally, the guy has no funds. We have seen when he is given a Michy or a RLC, we play some really good football.

Dyche has signed Ben Gibson 18m, can you imagine if Dougie did this?

Let’s steady to ship, let wilfs future sort itself out. Find some new investment and reevaluate

 
EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 30 Jun 20 7.18pm

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

Nailed it.

As others (too few, sadly) have said, be careful what you wish for. Look at Charlton and the way they disintegrated after ditching Curbishley in vain pursuit of 'the next level'. We are not a large club and it's unrealistic at this time to aspire to European qualification - poor infrastructure, poor stadium and limited budget make such dreams unachievable.

Blaming Hodgson for all this is astonishing and is the thought process of someone with a very tenuous grip on reality.

Seriously, get your heads out of your arses if you think that getting rid of Hodgson is the answer to your prayers. He's played a blinder, balancing zero resources against the demands of a vain and egotistic Chairman, a feat not achieved since Coppell. Without him, we'd be mid-table championship level (if that) today.

It’s not about Europe, I agree we’re miles off it in many ways.

It’s about actually enjoying my team play football again.

You say we’d be mid table championship, yet we’ve stayed up under how many different managers? And were the squads significantly better than this? I certainly don’t think so.

We’ve gone through Pulis, Warnock and Allardyce and none were as bad to watch as we are now.

 
pompeyeagle Flag Relocated to Shropshire 30 Jun 20 7.18pm

Absolutely yes. I don’t buy this opinion that as long as Roy is at our club we will stay up. It’s not like he has never failed before. The squad is wafer thin, most of them are in their 30’s, we don’t score anywhere near enough goals, anyone creative doesn’t get a look in and Zaha looks like he’s lost interest. Definitely time for a change.

 
BlueJay Flag UK 30 Jun 20 7.18pm

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

Nothing wrong with being inspirational but the infrastructure at the club needs radical improvement before it can become reality. European football would slaughter us.

Yeah as they say 'levels'. It's always hard to make the leap.

 
EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 30 Jun 20 7.19pm

Originally posted by PatrickA

Perhaps it should be recognised that Hodgson is not the only manager who can keep us up.
Pulis, Pardew and Allardyce managed this feat too - and in the case of Pulis with a much weaker squad.
Much of the attraction of Hodgson is I’m afraid lost on me.
We are in the top ten of the league in terms of wage bill and have a squad packed with experienced international players.
This to me does not equate with his being a miracle worker by keeping us up.
For me he is a bang average manager who is likely to keep you in the division and for many this will be enough.
I like my football a little more exciting and dislike our being around the top of the table for being the lowest scorers at home in the league.
We can’t even complain we’ve been unlucky at home as we aim to keep each game 0-0 for as long as possible hoping to kill off the opposition through tedium.

This with f*cking bells on.

 
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