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mattteo 23 Feb 21 10.59am
Originally posted by Mstrobez That’s all well and good but So did we and haven’t spent anywhere near that amount. Because we already had players of the highest level in the squad. They came from nothing, so they had to spend to be competitive in the PL. Imagine that we didn't have Zaha. With thay buy alone, we would have spent nore than Brighton. We spent a lot too, but we had sales as well(AWB comes to mind). But Brighton will have a great financial future too, people who analyse finances know they promoted players who will be sold for a lot more (Trossard, Maupay, Connolly, McAllister, Lamptey, March, Dan Burn). They also have some very exciting loanees at a very young age (Gyokeres etc.)

mattteo

23 Feb 21 10.59am

Originally posted by Mstrobez

That’s all well and good but So did we and haven’t spent anywhere near that amount.

Because we already had players of the highest level in the squad. They came from nothing, so they had to spend to be competitive in the PL. Imagine that we didn't have Zaha. With thay buy alone, we would have spent nore than Brighton.

We spent a lot too, but we had sales as well(AWB comes to mind).

But Brighton will have a great financial future too, people who analyse finances know they promoted players who will be sold for a lot more (Trossard, Maupay, Connolly, McAllister, Lamptey, March, Dan Burn). They also have some very exciting loanees at a very young age (Gyokeres etc.)

Spiderman Horsham 23 Feb 21 11.01am
Originally posted by Eaglecoops To all those who quote FFP as the reason for us not spending take note of this figure. I have often wondered how they get away with it. Is it the Stadium sponsorship?

Spiderman

Horsham 23 Feb 21 11.01am

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

To all those who quote FFP as the reason for us not spending take note of this figure.

I have often wondered how they get away with it. Is it the Stadium sponsorship?

mattteo 23 Feb 21 11.02am
Originally posted by Spiderman How many of their passes created a worthwhile chance? Very very few. I disagree. They have many chances. And ot only in this match, in most matches. They need a little better finishers. Is it better to live by accidents like Benteke's goal? We win 3 poknts ouy of nothjng, but keeping this up.will surely mean relegation in 2 years, cause you can't fool football forevwr. Meanwhile, Brighton keeping this up and getting a few bettwr finishers will rise in the league in 2 years and will even fight for Europa League spots. It's how a manager build mechanical football and tactics and the guarantee of wins in the long term.

mattteo

23 Feb 21 11.02am

Originally posted by Spiderman

How many of their passes created a worthwhile chance? Very very few.

I disagree. They have many chances. And ot only in this match, in most matches. They need a little better finishers.

Is it better to live by accidents like Benteke's goal? We win 3 poknts ouy of nothjng, but keeping this up.will surely mean relegation in 2 years, cause you can't fool football forevwr.

Meanwhile, Brighton keeping this up and getting a few bettwr finishers will rise in the league in 2 years and will even fight for Europa League spots. It's how a manager build mechanical football and tactics and the guarantee of wins in the long term.

Harpo Oxfordshire 23 Feb 21 11.04am
Whatever he has or has not achieved, he's far too lightweight for our needs. Ergo he's a no-go.

Harpo

Oxfordshire 23 Feb 21 11.04am

Whatever he has or has not achieved, he's far too lightweight for our needs.

Ergo he's a no-go.

TheBigToePunt 23 Feb 21 11.06am
Originally posted by Eaglecoops To all those who quote FFP as the reason for us not spending take note of this figure. For those interested in the alternative assessment, I have posted the details of Brightons finances and compliance with FFP on the thread about the ultras and the banner. Not stalking you on this BTW Coops!

TheBigToePunt

23 Feb 21 11.06am

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

To all those who quote FFP as the reason for us not spending take note of this figure.

For those interested in the alternative assessment, I have posted the details of Brightons finances and compliance with FFP on the thread about the ultras and the banner.

Not stalking you on this BTW Coops!

taylors lovechild 23 Feb 21 11.51am
Anyone who has been paying attention will know that the way to beat us is to a) move the ball faster b) try and draw us up the pitch to make use of our painfully slow defence. Brighton attempted to pass it through our defence in a ponderous fashion for much of the game and due to playing two tiny strikers in the first half couldn't put high crosses in the box. The decision to play four centre-backs also meant that on the two occasions we countered effectively we won the foot race and got the crosses in. I like the way Potter has Brighton playing and if they can afford some better players it should pay dividends long term. Last night and in our previous encounter though he got his tactics wrong. Bentenke now has more goals than Maupay this season which is very funny too

taylors lovechild

23 Feb 21 11.51am

Anyone who has been paying attention will know that the way to beat us is to a) move the ball faster b) try and draw us up the pitch to make use of our painfully slow defence. Brighton attempted to pass it through our defence in a ponderous fashion for much of the game and due to playing two tiny strikers in the first half couldn't put high crosses in the box. The decision to play four centre-backs also meant that on the two occasions we countered effectively we won the foot race and got the crosses in.

I like the way Potter has Brighton playing and if they can afford some better players it should pay dividends long term. Last night and in our previous encounter though he got his tactics wrong.

Bentenke now has more goals than Maupay this season which is very funny too

Teddy Eagle 23 Feb 21 11.56am
Originally posted by Mstrobez Brighton have spent £240m NET since 2015. No way on earth. According to this Brighton have the 11th highest net spend in Europe over the past 5 years (Palace are 28th). [Link]

Teddy Eagle

23 Feb 21 11.56am

Originally posted by Mstrobez

Brighton have spent £240m NET since 2015.

No way on earth.

According to this Brighton have the 11th highest net spend in Europe over the past 5 years (Palace are 28th).

[Link]

Ketteridge Brighton 23 Feb 21 3.54pm
Originally posted by Spiderman I have often wondered how they get away with it. Is it the Stadium sponsorship? My limited understanding is the debt has built up over the last 10 years so they pretty much stick to FFP rules but each year have been bankrolled and only made a profit in their first season up . They are now £279m in debt and lost £67m last season . [Link] . We are one of the few smaller clubs in the premier who are bankrolled which is why we make do and mend. One supporter of hacking argued that without it "you will do away with the courage and pluck of the game, and I will be bound to bring over a lot of Frenchmen who would beat you with a week's practice -Blackheath secretary at first meeting of the F.A

Ketteridge

Brighton 23 Feb 21 3.54pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

I have often wondered how they get away with it. Is it the Stadium sponsorship?

My limited understanding is the debt has built up over the last 10 years so they pretty much stick to FFP rules but each year have been bankrolled and only made a profit in their first season up . They are now £279m in debt and lost £67m last season . [Link] . We are one of the few smaller clubs in the premier who are bankrolled which is why we make do and mend.

One supporter of hacking argued that without it "you will do away with the courage and pluck of the game, and I will be bound to bring over a lot of Frenchmen who would beat you with a week's practice -Blackheath secretary at first meeting of the F.A

Ketteridge Brighton 23 Feb 21 4.55pm
Originally posted by mattteo Because we already had players of the highest level in the squad. They came from nothing, so they had to spend to be competitive in the PL. Imagine that we didn't have Zaha. With thay buy alone, we would have spent nore than Brighton. We spent a lot too, but we had sales as well(AWB comes to mind). But Brighton will have a great financial future too, people who analyse finances know they promoted players who will be sold for a lot more (Trossard, Maupay, Connolly, McAllister, Lamptey, March, Dan Burn). They also have some very exciting loanees at a very young age (Gyokeres etc.) The survived under Hughton for two years with pretty much the core of the squad that got them promoted, Bruno, Dunk, Duffy, Bong, Stephens, Knockheart, March and Murray. They added Propper, Gross and Ryan and a few others to the squad but they stayed up with them. Since Potter has been there they have had some great result against good team beating spurs twice at home and Arsenal and Everton, but struggle against teams that defend. In two years they have only other wins at home have against Norwich and Bournemouth. You could see last night they spend so long working the ball into position that defences have time to regroup and get bodies back. I agree to extent with you last paragraph, they have invested in younger potential with an eye on sell on value. Potter fits much more with Blooms model he wants to bring on the young players that Bloom analytical skills/team can scout, Hughton didn’t play them so that’s way he went. Trossard and Maupay cost near £40m and have at best held there value, Webster is similar. Lamptey and Bissouma look good but Connolly and Burn look championship, Connolly at least has time on his side. One supporter of hacking argued that without it "you will do away with the courage and pluck of the game, and I will be bound to bring over a lot of Frenchmen who would beat you with a week's practice -Blackheath secretary at first meeting of the F.A

Ketteridge

Brighton 23 Feb 21 4.55pm

Originally posted by mattteo

We spent a lot too, but we had sales as well(AWB comes to mind).

The survived under Hughton for two years with pretty much the core of the squad that got them promoted, Bruno, Dunk, Duffy, Bong, Stephens, Knockheart, March and Murray. They added Propper, Gross and Ryan and a few others to the squad but they stayed up with them.
Since Potter has been there they have had some great result against good team beating spurs twice at home and Arsenal and Everton, but struggle against teams that defend. In two years they have only other wins at home have against Norwich and Bournemouth. You could see last night they spend so long working the ball into position that defences have time to regroup and get bodies back.
I agree to extent with you last paragraph, they have invested in younger potential with an eye on sell on value. Potter fits much more with Blooms model he wants to bring on the young players that Bloom analytical skills/team can scout, Hughton didn’t play them so that’s way he went.
Trossard and Maupay cost near £40m and have at best held there value, Webster is similar. Lamptey and Bissouma look good but Connolly and Burn look championship, Connolly at least has time on his side.

Spiderman Horsham 23 Feb 21 5.11pm
Originally posted by mattteo I disagree. They have many chances. And ot only in this match, in most matches. They need a little better finishers. Is it better to live by accidents like Benteke's goal? We win 3 poknts ouy of nothjng, but keeping this up.will surely mean relegation in 2 years, cause you can't fool football forevwr. Meanwhile, Brighton keeping this up and getting a few bettwr finishers will rise in the league in 2 years and will even fight for Europa League spots. It's how a manager build mechanical football and tactics and the guarantee of wins in the long term. But how many defence splitting passes was my point, at best 2 in the whole match. Brighton may rise but I suspect they will struggle to keep their best players, Bissouma and White will be off, if only to help finances. I agree Palace need an overhaul to avoid relegation

Spiderman

Horsham 23 Feb 21 5.11pm

Originally posted by mattteo

I disagree. They have many chances. And ot only in this match, in most matches. They need a little better finishers.

Is it better to live by accidents like Benteke's goal? We win 3 poknts ouy of nothjng, but keeping this up.will surely mean relegation in 2 years, cause you can't fool football forevwr.

But how many defence splitting passes was my point, at best 2 in the whole match. Brighton may rise but I suspect they will struggle to keep their best players, Bissouma and White will be off, if only to help finances.
I agree Palace need an overhaul to avoid relegation

Spiderman Horsham 23 Feb 21 5.15pm
Originally posted by Ketteridge My limited understanding is the debt has built up over the last 10 years so they pretty much stick to FFP rules but each year have been bankrolled and only made a profit in their first season up . They are now £279m in debt and lost £67m last season . [Link] . We are one of the few smaller clubs in the premier who are bankrolled which is why we make do and mend. Thank you. So can owners loan an infinite amount, surely not

Spiderman

Horsham 23 Feb 21 5.15pm

Originally posted by Ketteridge

Thank you. So can owners loan an infinite amount, surely not

mattteo 23 Feb 21 5.46pm
Originally posted by Ketteridge I agree to extent with you last paragraph, they have invested in younger potential with an eye on sell on value. Potter fits much more with Blooms model he wants to bring on the young players that Bloom analytical skills/team can scout, Hughton didn’t play them so that’s way he went. Trossard and Maupay cost near £40m and have at best held there value, Webster is similar. Lamptey and Bissouma look good but Connolly and Burn look championship, Connolly at least has time on his side. You don't like Dan Burn? I think that for his height he is a wonderful player. I have never seen a human over 2 metres tall be so fast. Never

mattteo

23 Feb 21 5.46pm

Originally posted by Ketteridge

I agree to extent with you last paragraph, they have invested in younger potential with an eye on sell on value. Potter fits much more with Blooms model he wants to bring on the young players that Bloom analytical skills/team can scout, Hughton didn’t play them so that’s way he went.
Trossard and Maupay cost near £40m and have at best held there value, Webster is similar. Lamptey and Bissouma look good but Connolly and Burn look championship, Connolly at least has time on his side.

You don't like Dan Burn? I think that for his height he is a wonderful player. I have never seen a human over 2 metres tall be so fast. Never

NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 23 Feb 21 6.12pm
Originally posted by mattteo Because we already had players of the highest level in the squad. They came from nothing, so they had to spend to be competitive in the PL. Imagine that we didn't have Zaha. With thay buy alone, we would have spent nore than Brighton. We spent a lot too, but we had sales as well(AWB comes to mind). But Brighton will have a great financial future too, people who analyse finances know they promoted players who will be sold for a lot more (Trossard, Maupay, Connolly, McAllister, Lamptey, March, Dan Burn). They also have some very exciting loanees at a very young age (Gyokeres etc.) I very much doubt this. Old, Ungifted and White

NEILLO

Shoreham-by-Sea 23 Feb 21 6.12pm

Originally posted by mattteo

We spent a lot too, but we had sales as well(AWB comes to mind).

But Brighton will have a great financial future too, people who analyse finances know they promoted players who will be sold for a lot more (Trossard, Maupay, Connolly, McAllister, Lamptey, March, Dan Burn). They also have some very exciting loanees at a very young age (Gyokeres etc.)

I very much doubt this.

Old, Ungifted and White

Painter Croydon 23 Feb 21 6.29pm
Originally posted by mattteo You don't like Dan Burn? I think that for his height he is a wonderful player. I have never seen a human over 2 metres tall be so fast. Never Not according to Brighton fans. You have let yourself down in this thread with your bigging up Brighton. Potter has done no better than Hughton despite spending millions.

Painter

Croydon 23 Feb 21 6.29pm

Originally posted by mattteo

You don't like Dan Burn? I think that for his height he is a wonderful player. I have never seen a human over 2 metres tall be so fast. Never

Not according to Brighton fans. You have let yourself down in this thread with your bigging up Brighton. Potter has done no better than Hughton despite spending millions.

Spiderman Horsham 23 Feb 21 6.41pm
Originally posted by Painter Not according to Brighton fans. You have let yourself down in this thread with your bigging up Brighton. Potter has done no better than Hughton despite spending millions. 100% this. Brighton fans think Burn should be played as a winger! 6ft 7 that would be a first. His defending for winner was awful

Spiderman

Horsham 23 Feb 21 6.41pm

Originally posted by Painter

Not according to Brighton fans. You have let yourself down in this thread with your bigging up Brighton. Potter has done no better than Hughton despite spending millions.

100% this. Brighton fans think Burn should be played as a winger! 6ft 7 that would be a first. His defending for winner was awful

Spiderman Horsham 23 Feb 21 6.42pm
Originally posted by mattteo You don't like Dan Burn? I think that for his height he is a wonderful player. I have never seen a human over 2 metres tall be so fast. Never He may be fast but he is not very good at defending

Spiderman

Horsham 23 Feb 21 6.42pm

Originally posted by mattteo

You don't like Dan Burn? I think that for his height he is a wonderful player. I have never seen a human over 2 metres tall be so fast. Never

He may be fast but he is not very good at defending

Mstrobez 23 Feb 21 7.29pm
Originally posted by mattteo Because we already had players of the highest level in the squad. They came from nothing, so they had to spend to be competitive in the PL. Imagine that we didn't have Zaha. With thay buy alone, we would have spent nore than Brighton. We spent a lot too, but we had sales as well(AWB comes to mind). But Brighton will have a great financial future too, people who analyse finances know they promoted players who will be sold for a lot more (Trossard, Maupay, Connolly, McAllister, Lamptey, March, Dan Burn). They also have some very exciting loanees at a very young age (Gyokeres etc.) We most certainly did not have players of the highest level in the squad when we first came up & at no point have we been anywhere near those numbers. £240m net is serious money in anyone’s book and scraping for survival on it Isn’t acceptable. We're the Arthur over ere!

Mstrobez

23 Feb 21 7.29pm

Originally posted by mattteo

We spent a lot too, but we had sales as well(AWB comes to mind).

We most certainly did not have players of the highest level in the squad when we first came up & at no point have we been anywhere near those numbers. £240m net is serious money in anyone’s book and scraping for survival on it Isn’t acceptable.

We're the Arthur over ere!

Phil’s Barber Crowborough 23 Feb 21 9.03pm
Originally posted by mattteo You don't like Dan Burn? I think that for his height he is a wonderful player. I have never seen a human over 2 metres tall be so fast. Never Wasn’t it Burn that got roasted by Ayew down the wing for our first goal?

Phil’s Barber

Crowborough 23 Feb 21 9.03pm

Originally posted by mattteo

You don't like Dan Burn? I think that for his height he is a wonderful player. I have never seen a human over 2 metres tall be so fast. Never

Wasn’t it Burn that got roasted by Ayew down the wing for our first goal?

EagleinSF San Fransisco 23 Feb 21 10.55pm
Originally posted by Phil’s Barber Wasn’t it Burn that got roasted by Ayew down the wing for our first goal? I don't think you can roast a burn. I'll get me coat...

EagleinSF

San Fransisco 23 Feb 21 10.55pm

Originally posted by Phil’s Barber

Wasn’t it Burn that got roasted by Ayew down the wing for our first goal?

I don't think you can roast a burn. I'll get me coat...

Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 23 Feb 21 11.55pm
Originally posted by Phil’s Barber Wasn’t it Burn that got roasted by Ayew down the wing for our first goal? Indeed it was Ayew who beat Burn and crossed for Mateta to score.

Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 23 Feb 21 11.55pm

Originally posted by Phil’s Barber

Wasn’t it Burn that got roasted by Ayew down the wing for our first goal?

Indeed it was Ayew who beat Burn and crossed for Mateta to score.

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