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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 25 May 17 8.30am

This post has been merged from a topic called 'Roll the Dyche ' by Guntrisoft

Originally posted by CPFC/SCCC

Who would you prefer dyche or silva?

Personally I favour Dyche.
More experience at PL level and whilst he went down with Burnley he took them up straight away which is some feat.
Cannot see Silva doing that - might look for the 'Exit' door if he hasn't already been shown it !

 

CPFC/SCCC Flag Sutton 25 May 17 8.31am

This post has been merged from a topic called 'Roll the Dyche ' by Guntrisoft

Originally posted by black eagle.

Dyche is a very good shout.not my first choice but think this might just happen as Parish likes a English manager which might put Hodgson in the frame also

I'd love a Mancini or Blanc or hiddink but dyche knows the championship and could find players that could step up. Much prefer dyche to silva. If we were relegated (hope not) , dyche has got Burnley promoted twice.

 


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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 25 May 17 8.32am

This post has been merged from a topic called 'Roll the Dyche ' by Guntrisoft

Originally posted by CPFC/SCCC

I'd love a Mancini or Blanc or hiddink but dyche knows the championship and could find players that could step up. Much prefer dyche to silva. If we were relegated (hope not) , dyche has got Burnley promoted twice.

And Dyche might be able to lure Heaton to us !!!!

And of course, promotion back to the PL might enter the equation ! Dyche has got Burnley promoted to the PL twice as you have mentioned.

Edited by Willo (25 May 2017 8.33am)

 

CPFC/SCCC Flag Sutton 25 May 17 8.34am

This post has been merged from a topic called 'Roll the Dyche ' by Guntrisoft

Originally posted by Willo

And Dyche might be able to lure Heaton to us !!!!

Trippier would be nice aswell- he work with trips at Burnley.

 


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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 25 May 17 8.37am

This post has been merged from a topic called 'Roll the Dyche ' by Guntrisoft

Originally posted by CPFC/SCCC


Trippier would be nice aswell- he work with trips at Burnley.

Indeed !
I'm sure Benteke would appreciate Trippier's crosses from the right flank - he has a terrific record of 'Assists'.

 

thai-eagle Flag chiang mai 25 May 17 8.57am

This post has been merged from a topic called 'Roll the Dyche ' by Guntrisoft

Same Trippier playing for Spurs?

 

PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 25 May 17 9.40am

apart from big paycheques, what has Roy Hodgeson ever achieved in football ?

 


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ParchmoreEagle Flag Belair 25 May 17 9.46am

This post has been merged from a topic called 'Roll the Dyche ' by Guntrisoft

Originally posted by CPFC/SCCC

He's done a superb job at Burnley on a low budget. He's got similar traits to Sam and pulis who were both successful Palace managers. When ever you see a Burnley side. One thing your can't point at them is that they don't give their all. Their one of the most hard working teams in the league. He actually priorities the defence first. We all love the likes of Mancini, hiddink and big names but is that realistic. He would actually bring stability also if the worst come to it, he has 2 promotions from the championship.

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Yes I think you're right! Sean Dyche for me then.

 


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kenbarr Flag Jackson Heights, Queens, New York ... 25 May 17 9.46am

Zonal marking seems to be like a prevent defense in the NFL. It prevents you from winning.

 


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ParchmoreEagle Flag Belair 25 May 17 9.49am

This post has been merged from a topic called 'Not Hodgson Please!' by Guntrisoft

No not him please - Pardew 2.0

Get Sean Dyche!

What's YOUR reason for us NOT having Hodgson?

 


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Username Flag Horsham 25 May 17 10.04am

Originally posted by kenbarr

Zonal marking seems to be like a prevent defense in the NFL. It prevents you from winning.

Zonal marking looks bad when it goes wrong, but it's more effective in general. Defenders are focused on attacking the ball (not standing still as some pundits seem to insist) as it comes into their zone, not trying to watch the ball and man at the same time.

It's the same argument as having a man on the posts. The one time out of 100 that the ball goes in and you don't have someone there it looks bad, but you have to factor in the 15 times our of 100 that having that player in the box instead of standing useless on the post meant you dealt with the corner easily and forgot about it.

Not saying Silva's zonal marking at Hull was good by the way, but the idea that it doesn't work at all is just lazy. In Hull's case it's difficult to tell if he just didn't have the players to do it, the time to properly change it or genuinely can't coach defensively.

Personally, I thought overall he did a pretty good job under the circumstances. Best players sold in Jan and already struggling, he had no right to even get them to the penultimate game with a chance of survival.

 


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We are goin up! Flag Coulsdon 25 May 17 10.06am

We're a bigger club than Burnley FFS, if we want him we'll be able to get him.

For me, I'd love Ranieri or Mancini. How can anyone turn their nose up at managers who have consistently been in the Champions League? They're obvious upgrades on the managers we've had, and would allow us to attract some serious names. With all due respect to Sean Dyche who I think is a cracking manager, I think the likes of Zaha/Cabaye/Benteke/Townsend would be more keen to stay if we brought in someone with a bit more experience up the top end of the Premier League.

 


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Littlebogreek Flag 25 May 17 10.10am

Originally posted by We are goin up!

We're a bigger club than Burnley FFS, if we want him we'll be able to get him.

For me, I'd love Ranieri or Mancini. How can anyone turn their nose up at managers who have consistently been in the Champions League? They're obvious upgrades on the managers we've had, and would allow us to attract some serious names. With all due respect to Sean Dyche who I think is a cracking manager, I think the likes of Zaha/Cabaye/Benteke/Townsend would be more keen to stay if we brought in someone with a bit more experience up the top end of the Premier League.

I worry about Mancini as I wonder how he would do at a club our size - without bothering to google I'm not sure he's done that? We aren't likely to be spending £100 million this summer. Ranieri's stock is low after this season and his inability to turn things round worries me.

Dyche would be perfect in terms of his approach to football (solid defence and counter attack). I like him and he really seems like he knows what he is doing but your point over the current players staying is a worry, plus who is he likely to attract (although Heaton would be fantastic).

 

Loz83 Flag Crawley 25 May 17 10.11am

Dyche would be my 1st choice, followed by silva and jokanovic!

 

Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 25 May 17 10.16am

Originally posted by Username


Zonal marking looks bad when it goes wrong, but it's more effective in general. Defenders are focused on attacking the ball (not standing still as some pundits seem to insist) as it comes into their zone, not trying to watch the ball and man at the same time.

It's the same argument as having a man on the posts. The one time out of 100 that the ball goes in and you don't have someone there it looks bad, but you have to factor in the 15 times our of 100 that having that player in the box instead of standing useless on the post meant you dealt with the corner easily and forgot about it.

Not saying Silva's zonal marking at Hull was good by the way, but the idea that it doesn't work at all is just lazy. In Hull's case it's difficult to tell if he just didn't have the players to do it, the time to properly change it or genuinely can't coach defensively.

Personally, I thought overall he did a pretty good job under the circumstances. Best players sold in Jan and already struggling, he had no right to even get them to the penultimate game with a chance of survival.

Liverpool used 'Zonal marking' when the won the Championship in the days of Hansen etc.
Howard Wilkinson used it for many,many years and implemented it in many of the England teams when he was the FA's technical director.
And sometimes these days you will see a combination of Zonal and man-to-man marking when defending corners etc.

 

PALACE FOR EVER Flag London 25 May 17 10.18am

I wouldn't mind Dyche but I notice he seems to like Ian Woan as his assistant. His 1st management job - Watford (2011/12) Woan was his assistant then Burnley Woan has been there the same years (2012-) so perhaps no Sammy Lee at Palace

If we get Dyche we need him to fall out with Woan!, any ideas?


 


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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 25 May 17 10.22am

Originally posted by PALACE FOR EVER

I wouldn't mind Dyche but I notice he seems to like Ian Woan as his assistant. His 1st management job - Watford (2011/12) Woan was his assistant then Burnley Woan has been there the same years (2012-) so perhaps no Sammy Lee at Palace

If we get Dyche we need him to fall out with Woan!, any ideas?


I'm led to believe he also has Tony Loughlan as his 'First team coach'. 'Team Dyche' !


Edited by Willo (25 May 2017 10.22am)

 

PALACE FOR EVER Flag London 25 May 17 10.57am

Originally posted by Willo


I'm led to believe he also has Tony Loughlan as his 'First team coach'. 'Team Dyche' !


Edited by Willo (25 May 2017 10.22am)

Sammy Lee's job title at Palace is 'Assistant manager' same as Woan not 'First team coach' out FTC is Kevin Keen.

 


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Painter Flag Croydon 25 May 17 11.03am

Originally posted by Willo

Liverpool used 'Zonal marking' when the won the Championship in the days of Hansen etc.
Howard Wilkinson used it for many,many years and implemented it in many of the England teams when he was the FA's technical director.
And sometimes these days you will see a combination of Zonal and man-to-man marking when defending corners etc.

Times have moved on in 30 years, we don't need a dinosaur like Dyche, if we want to move forward.
We need a manager, who isn't just happy to survive, not some of the same old names on the managerial merry go round.

 

Alexi_the_Eagle Flag Newton-le-Willows 25 May 17 11.08am

Originally posted by Painter

Times have moved on in 30 years, we don't need a dinosaur like Dyche, if we want to move forward.
We need a manager, who isn't just happy to survive, not some of the same old names on the managerial merry go round.

The same dinosaur who got Burnley promoted twice on a shoestring budget, made some realistic signings and turned Turf Moor into a tough ground to visit? Yeah, he's a dinosaur alright.....

 


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