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jeeagles 14 Sep 21 10.20pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Oh hum. At least you're not feeling bullied. When people get the hump and avoid the points made they've generally lost the argument. Anyway, let's stop the genealogy crap and get back to the question. The French and British have hundreds of miles of coastline to protect in one of the busiest shipping lanes in the world. With rugged terrain and a huge tidal range it's been notorious for smuggling for centuries. For the last few decades boarder patrols have been losing the same game of cat an mouse with drug smugglers. A RIB can travel at about 30 knots. The narrowest part of the channel is 20 miles. That means once they are at sea they can make the journey in 45 minutes. By the time they have been spotted, it's too late. Much like Atlantic convey, the people traffickers travelling in large numbers to overrun anything the French or British can do. Maybe a boat her or there will get caught, but it will take a huge amount of resources to deliver a little reward. Other tools need to be used to stop this. Perhaps stricter controls on boat ownership, more checks on private minibuses? We've bought in stronger Modern Slavery laws and more controls for renting property. Investigate Uber/deliveroo and pick up staff who are supposed working 120 hours a week as multiple people use the same ID. Pick people up where it is easy, not where it is difficult. Whilst the idea of using some great flotilla sturs up ideas of patriotism in right wing media circles, in reality, your just pissing in the wind if you think that would work. Edited by jeeagles (14 Sep 2021 10.21pm)

jeeagles

14 Sep 21 10.20pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Oh hum.

At least you're not feeling bullied.

When people get the hump and avoid the points made they've generally lost the argument.

Anyway, let's stop the genealogy crap and get back to the question.

The French and British have hundreds of miles of coastline to protect in one of the busiest shipping lanes in the world.

With rugged terrain and a huge tidal range it's been notorious for smuggling for centuries. For the last few decades boarder patrols have been losing the same game of cat an mouse with drug smugglers.

A RIB can travel at about 30 knots. The narrowest part of the channel is 20 miles. That means once they are at sea they can make the journey in 45 minutes.

By the time they have been spotted, it's too late.

Much like Atlantic convey, the people traffickers travelling in large numbers to overrun anything the French or British can do. Maybe a boat her or there will get caught, but it will take a huge amount of resources to deliver a little reward.

Other tools need to be used to stop this. Perhaps stricter controls on boat ownership, more checks on private minibuses? We've bought in stronger Modern Slavery laws and more controls for renting property. Investigate Uber/deliveroo and pick up staff who are supposed working 120 hours a week as multiple people use the same ID. Pick people up where it is easy, not where it is difficult.

Whilst the idea of using some great flotilla sturs up ideas of patriotism in right wing media circles, in reality, your just pissing in the wind if you think that would work.

Edited by jeeagles (14 Sep 2021 10.21pm)

Stirlingsays 14 Sep 21 10.26pm
Originally posted by jeeagles When people get the hump and avoid the points made they've generally lost the argument. Anyway, let's stop the genealogy crap and get back to the question. The French and British have hundreds of miles of coastline to protect in one of the busiest shipping lanes in the world. With rugged terrain and a huge tidal range it's been notorious for smuggling for centuries. For the last few decades boarder patrols have been losing the same game of cat an mouse with drug smugglers. A RIB can travel at about 30 knots. The narrowest part of the channel is 20 miles. That means once they are at sea they can make the journey in 45 minutes. By the time they have been spotted, it's too late. Much like Atlantic convey, the people traffickers travelling in large numbers to overrun anything the French or British can do. Maybe a boat her or there will get caught, but it will take a huge amount of resources to deliver a little reward. Other tools need to be used to stop this. Perhaps stricter controls on boat ownership, more checks on private minibuses? We've bought in stronger Modern Slavery laws and more controls for renting property. Investigate Uber/deliveroo and pick up staff who are supposed working 120 hours a week as multiple people use the same ID. Pick people up where it is easy, not where it is difficult. Whilst the idea of using some great flotilla sturs up ideas of patriotism in right wing media circles, in reality, your just pissing in the wind if you think that would work. Edited by jeeagles (14 Sep 2021 10.21pm) I kind of respect the desire to get back onto the thread's subject matter. I agree with your points essentially. Though the French will do nothing about it. Changing 'human rights' law to make deportations easier would work....but similar to what you say, there's no hope of that happening. It would be nice if they could all be sent to Gary Lineker's gaff... Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Sep 2021 10.29pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

14 Sep 21 10.26pm

Originally posted by jeeagles

When people get the hump and avoid the points made they've generally lost the argument.

Anyway, let's stop the genealogy crap and get back to the question.

The French and British have hundreds of miles of coastline to protect in one of the busiest shipping lanes in the world.

A RIB can travel at about 30 knots. The narrowest part of the channel is 20 miles. That means once they are at sea they can make the journey in 45 minutes.

By the time they have been spotted, it's too late.

Whilst the idea of using some great flotilla sturs up ideas of patriotism in right wing media circles, in reality, your just pissing in the wind if you think that would work.

Edited by jeeagles (14 Sep 2021 10.21pm)

I kind of respect the desire to get back onto the thread's subject matter.

I agree with your points essentially. Though the French will do nothing about it. Changing 'human rights' law to make deportations easier would work....but similar to what you say, there's no hope of that happening.

It would be nice if they could all be sent to Gary Lineker's gaff...

Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Sep 2021 10.29pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

jeeagles 14 Sep 21 10.45pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays I kind of respect the desire to get back onto the thread's subject matter. I agree with your points essentially. Though the French will do nothing about it. Changing 'human rights' law to make deportations easier would work....but similar to what you say, there's no hope of that happening. It would be nice if they could all be sent to Gary Lineker's gaff... Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Sep 2021 10.29pm) If there was a role reversal, would you want the British government spending money and resources to resolve a French problem? Not sure Human Rights rules changes would get to what you want either. Using investigate Human Rights laws to deport people would be a lengthy, expensive legal process with no guarantee of knowing what the outcome will be. Changing the fundermental laws would be even more difficult... you'd be looking at decades before anything is done, if anything happens at all. Picking up people at sea is very difficult. I could go on about why it is for a while, but I hope you've agreed and accepted that. One would expect that once these people land, they are put in a minibus/vans and carted off somewhere. ANPR cameras, other technology, and big data analysis could do the work of hundreds of policemen in a short amount of time and flag up suspect vehicles. However, even at break neck speed, this would take a couple of years to set up, so there is some catch up to do. It takes 30 police officers to arrest a van full of illegal immigrants. It takes two to knock on the door of the van owners house and impound the van.

jeeagles

14 Sep 21 10.45pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I kind of respect the desire to get back onto the thread's subject matter.

It would be nice if they could all be sent to Gary Lineker's gaff...

Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Sep 2021 10.29pm)

If there was a role reversal, would you want the British government spending money and resources to resolve a French problem?

Not sure Human Rights rules changes would get to what you want either. Using investigate Human Rights laws to deport people would be a lengthy, expensive legal process with no guarantee of knowing what the outcome will be. Changing the fundermental laws would be even more difficult... you'd be looking at decades before anything is done, if anything happens at all.

Picking up people at sea is very difficult. I could go on about why it is for a while, but I hope you've agreed and accepted that.

One would expect that once these people land, they are put in a minibus/vans and carted off somewhere. ANPR cameras, other technology, and big data analysis could do the work of hundreds of policemen in a short amount of time and flag up suspect vehicles. However, even at break neck speed, this would take a couple of years to set up, so there is some catch up to do.

It takes 30 police officers to arrest a van full of illegal immigrants. It takes two to knock on the door of the van owners house and impound the van.

kuge Peckham 14 Sep 21 11.07pm
Originally posted by jeeagles If there was a role reversal, would you want the British government spending money and resources to resolve a French problem? Not sure Human Rights rules changes would get to what you want either. Using investigate Human Rights laws to deport people would be a lengthy, expensive legal process with no guarantee of knowing what the outcome will be. Changing the fundermental laws would be even more difficult... you'd be looking at decades before anything is done, if anything happens at all. Picking up people at sea is very difficult. I could go on about why it is for a while, but I hope you've agreed and accepted that. One would expect that once these people land, they are put in a minibus/vans and carted off somewhere. ANPR cameras, other technology, and big data analysis could do the work of hundreds of policemen in a short amount of time and flag up suspect vehicles. However, even at break neck speed, this would take a couple of years to set up, so there is some catch up to do. It takes 30 police officers to arrest a van full of illegal immigrants. It takes two to knock on the door of the van owners house and impound the van. I agree that stopping boats from being launched is near impossible. They will catch a few by pure luck but the criminal gangs are mobile and ruthless. They care nothing for the migrants, just for the money. The idea that you restrict the ability to buy an inflatable boat in northern France night has some potential, although I expect the French have already looked at that. I am sure that the French would welcome some practical legal ideas for how to stop boats from leaving. It’s costing them a lot of money completely apart from the UK contribution. As has been said it’s a very long coastline and it’s getting longer as some boats are being launched as far west as the Cotentin Peninsula. The 627 million that the UK is giving to France sounds like a lot, (I mean it’s nearly two red buses worth), but it is over two years. A large part of it is being spent on building migrant accommodation in Calais and other related projects. Once the boats have been launched the French will not wish to intercept as this is likely to cause a capsize which then will likely lead to deaths. Once boats are in UK waters the law rightly requires them to be rescued. No doubt Priti Patel is pressing for a photoshoot of herself, like Kate Winslet, on the prow of RN frigate shouting at some poor unfortunate people desperate to change their lives.

kuge

Peckham 14 Sep 21 11.07pm

Originally posted by jeeagles

If there was a role reversal, would you want the British government spending money and resources to resolve a French problem?

Picking up people at sea is very difficult. I could go on about why it is for a while, but I hope you've agreed and accepted that.

It takes 30 police officers to arrest a van full of illegal immigrants. It takes two to knock on the door of the van owners house and impound the van.

I agree that stopping boats from being launched is near impossible. They will catch a few by pure luck but the criminal gangs are mobile and ruthless. They care nothing for the migrants, just for the money.

The idea that you restrict the ability to buy an inflatable boat in northern France night has some potential, although I expect the French have already looked at that. I am sure that the French would welcome some practical legal ideas for how to stop boats from leaving. It’s costing them a lot of money completely apart from the UK contribution.

As has been said it’s a very long coastline and it’s getting longer as some boats are being launched as far west as the Cotentin Peninsula. The 627 million that the UK is giving to France sounds like a lot, (I mean it’s nearly two red buses worth), but it is over two years. A large part of it is being spent on building migrant accommodation in Calais and other related projects.

Once the boats have been launched the French will not wish to intercept as this is likely to cause a capsize which then will likely lead to deaths. Once boats are in UK waters the law rightly requires them to be rescued.

No doubt Priti Patel is pressing for a photoshoot of herself, like Kate Winslet, on the prow of RN frigate shouting at some poor unfortunate people desperate to change their lives.

Jimenez SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 14 Sep 21 11.31pm
Originally posted by kuge Surely just turning up is what everyone does. Although I am not sure that PalazioVecchio has full turned up to life yet. His posts are so musical geeza that I am inclined to believe he is a Peterhouse don running a sociology study. I am decided by the idea that I am a sleeper. I just took a look and I was surprised to see that I first logged on the HoL 17 years ago, how time flies. Having settled in with a reassuringly on message post about Andy Johnson’s ability to find space inside the box I then lay in wait, a liberal cicada, looking for the optimum moment to post. I think that although you claim that you like to be challenged the reality is that you fear it. There is a great deal of, ‘it’s my ball and if I can't win then no one can play', going on here. Perhaps you and Stirlingsays feel that it’s your right to dominate these posts? An accusation that I am condescending is your latest complaint. I have to admit that sometimes the debate gets a little wearisome and there is an intimation to sarcasm. Beyond that, I see no point in going. Once you get rude what’s the point? Perhaps you are wondering why I am here? In general, I look at the HoL to check on football stuff about once couple of days. I rarely post anything and almost never before have I looked at the politics threads. I was sure it would be feeble nonsense, and how right I was, (not condescending - just honest). When I started looking at this thread, however, I was shocked at the level of misinformation and felt moved to contribute. The whole set-up is rather attractive because the fallacies of your arguments are so obvious it’s very easy to expose them. You claim not to be a bully but it’s pretty clear that you are and Stirlingsays is too. You seek to dominate with your bombastic, bumptious preening but it just looks to be self-gratifying. Personally, I am oblivious to it and at the same time fascinated by it. What made you like that? Poor parenting, poor education, the lack of or too much of something? Have you tried therapy? Out of interest do you have family in Cornwall? Pro USA & Israel

Jimenez

SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 14 Sep 21 11.31pm

Originally posted by kuge

Surely just turning up is what everyone does. Although I am not sure that PalazioVecchio has full turned up to life yet. His posts are so musical geeza that I am inclined to believe he is a Peterhouse don running a sociology study.

I am decided by the idea that I am a sleeper. I just took a look and I was surprised to see that I first logged on the HoL 17 years ago, how time flies. Having settled in with a reassuringly on message post about Andy Johnson’s ability to find space inside the box I then lay in wait, a liberal cicada, looking for the optimum moment to post.

I think that although you claim that you like to be challenged the reality is that you fear it. There is a great deal of, ‘it’s my ball and if I can't win then no one can play', going on here. Perhaps you and Stirlingsays feel that it’s your right to dominate these posts?

An accusation that I am condescending is your latest complaint. I have to admit that sometimes the debate gets a little wearisome and there is an intimation to sarcasm. Beyond that, I see no point in going. Once you get rude what’s the point?

Perhaps you are wondering why I am here? In general, I look at the HoL to check on football stuff about once couple of days. I rarely post anything and almost never before have I looked at the politics threads. I was sure it would be feeble nonsense, and how right I was, (not condescending - just honest).

When I started looking at this thread, however, I was shocked at the level of misinformation and felt moved to contribute. The whole set-up is rather attractive because the fallacies of your arguments are so obvious it’s very easy to expose them.

You claim not to be a bully but it’s pretty clear that you are and Stirlingsays is too. You seek to dominate with your bombastic, bumptious preening but it just looks to be self-gratifying.

Personally, I am oblivious to it and at the same time fascinated by it. What made you like that? Poor parenting, poor education, the lack of or too much of something?

Have you tried therapy?

Out of interest do you have family in Cornwall?

Pro USA & Israel

Stirlingsays 14 Sep 21 11.34pm
Originally posted by jeeagles If there was a role reversal, would you want the British government spending money and resources to resolve a French problem? It is a French problem as well. Solving their problem also solves ours. In fact the French are under even more pressure....but France is very much in flux at the moment, new elections may herald new outcomes...or not. Originally posted by jeeagles Not sure Human Rights rules changes would get to what you want either. Using investigate Human Rights laws to deport people would be a lengthy, expensive legal process with no guarantee of knowing what the outcome will be. Changing the fundermental laws would be even more difficult... you'd be looking at decades before anything is done, if anything happens at all. That's why I said it was unrealistic. However, it's possible if the will was there and if I were in charge it's probably the most effective route. I don't agree that it would take years, because it would go hand in hand with a root and branch reform of the legal profession...as well as several others. Originally posted by jeeagles Picking up people at sea is very difficult. I could go on about why it is for a while, but I hope you've agreed and accepted that. One would expect that once these people land, they are put in a minibus/vans and carted off somewhere. ANPR cameras, other technology, and big data analysis could do the work of hundreds of policemen in a short amount of time and flag up suspect vehicles. However, even at break neck speed, this would take a couple of years to set up, so there is some catch up to do. It takes 30 police officers to arrest a van full of illegal immigrants. It takes two to knock on the door of the van owners house and impound the van. In terms of what are realistic ways to proceed given the rules as they exist......it kind of doesn't matter. What you are saying might be more effective at catching them once they have landed here but ultimately it makes no difference because they are staying. Nothing effective can be done under the current system. Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Sep 2021 11.55pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

14 Sep 21 11.34pm

Originally posted by jeeagles

If there was a role reversal, would you want the British government spending money and resources to resolve a French problem?

It is a French problem as well. Solving their problem also solves ours. In fact the French are under even more pressure....but France is very much in flux at the moment, new elections may herald new outcomes...or not.

Originally posted by jeeagles

That's why I said it was unrealistic.

However, it's possible if the will was there and if I were in charge it's probably the most effective route. I don't agree that it would take years, because it would go hand in hand with a root and branch reform of the legal profession...as well as several others.

Originally posted by jeeagles

Picking up people at sea is very difficult. I could go on about why it is for a while, but I hope you've agreed and accepted that.

It takes 30 police officers to arrest a van full of illegal immigrants. It takes two to knock on the door of the van owners house and impound the van.

In terms of what are realistic ways to proceed given the rules as they exist......it kind of doesn't matter. What you are saying might be more effective at catching them once they have landed here but ultimately it makes no difference because they are staying.

Nothing effective can be done under the current system.

Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Sep 2021 11.55pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

kuge Peckham 15 Sep 21 12.31am
Originally posted by Jimenez Out of interest do you have family in Cornwall? None that I know of, why do you ask?

kuge

Peckham 15 Sep 21 12.31am

Originally posted by Jimenez

Out of interest do you have family in Cornwall?

None that I know of, why do you ask?

Hrolf The Ganger 15 Sep 21 7.35am
Originally posted by jeeagles The questions are in there They've got a question mark after them. Question marks look like this ? You learn about Questions marks in primary school. I gather your education might have ended before that point, so I am puzzled how you speak so confidently about such a complicated area of biology. How do these genes you speak so highly about work? How are these immigrants with the inferior genes able to be so much more successful that you? Come on Hrolf, stop trying to kid yourself. It's obvious to everyone that you are trying to use bad science from the 1930's to falsely prove a contrived point. It's obvious to everyone just what you are. You don't really expect me to respond to this garbage, do you? When you say something that displays a modicum of intelligence, I will answer it.

Hrolf The Ganger

15 Sep 21 7.35am

Originally posted by jeeagles

The questions are in there
They've got a question mark after them.

Question marks look like this

You learn about Questions marks in primary school. I gather your education might have ended before that point, so I am puzzled how you speak so confidently about such a complicated area of biology.

How do these genes you speak so highly about work? How are these immigrants with the inferior genes able to be so much more successful that you?

Come on Hrolf, stop trying to kid yourself. It's obvious to everyone that you are trying to use bad science from the 1930's to falsely prove a contrived point.

It's obvious to everyone just what you are.

You don't really expect me to respond to this garbage, do you?
When you say something that displays a modicum of intelligence, I will answer it.

Hrolf The Ganger 15 Sep 21 7.38am
Originally posted by kuge Surely just turning up is what everyone does. Although I am not sure that PalazioVecchio has full turned up to life yet. His posts are so musical geeza that I am inclined to believe he is a Peterhouse don running a sociology study. I am decided by the idea that I am a sleeper. I just took a look and I was surprised to see that I first logged on the HoL 17 years ago, how time flies. Having settled in with a reassuringly on message post about Andy Johnson’s ability to find space inside the box I then lay in wait, a liberal cicada, looking for the optimum moment to post. I think that although you claim that you like to be challenged the reality is that you fear it. There is a great deal of, ‘it’s my ball and if I can't win then no one can play', going on here. Perhaps you and Stirlingsays feel that it’s your right to dominate these posts? An accusation that I am condescending is your latest complaint. I have to admit that sometimes the debate gets a little wearisome and there is an intimation to sarcasm. Beyond that, I see no point in going. Once you get rude what’s the point? Perhaps you are wondering why I am here? In general, I look at the HoL to check on football stuff about once couple of days. I rarely post anything and almost never before have I looked at the politics threads. I was sure it would be feeble nonsense, and how right I was, (not condescending - just honest). When I started looking at this thread, however, I was shocked at the level of misinformation and felt moved to contribute. The whole set-up is rather attractive because the fallacies of your arguments are so obvious it’s very easy to expose them. You claim not to be a bully but it’s pretty clear that you are and Stirlingsays is too. You seek to dominate with your bombastic, bumptious preening but it just looks to be self-gratifying. Personally, I am oblivious to it and at the same time fascinated by it. What made you like that? Poor parenting, poor education, the lack of or too much of something? Have you tried therapy? What is it with you? You seem to be under the impression that I take you seriously. Talk about the subject or don't waste your time. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (15 Sep 2021 7.39am)

Hrolf The Ganger

15 Sep 21 7.38am

Originally posted by kuge

You claim not to be a bully but it’s pretty clear that you are and Stirlingsays is too. You seek to dominate with your bombastic, bumptious preening but it just looks to be self-gratifying.

Personally, I am oblivious to it and at the same time fascinated by it. What made you like that? Poor parenting, poor education, the lack of or too much of something?

Have you tried therapy?

What is it with you?

You seem to be under the impression that I take you seriously.
Talk about the subject or don't waste your time.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (15 Sep 2021 7.39am)

kuge Peckham 15 Sep 21 8.37am
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger What is it with you? You seem to be under the impression that I take you seriously. Talk about the subject or don't waste your time. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (15 Sep 2021 7.39am) Good morning. I know that you don't take me seriously and that inability that you have to deal with counterarguments based on evidence damages you. I imagine that it's a defence that you have constructed around yourself to protect your fragile thinking. This is natural and predictable. I never waste my time, essentially it is all we have. The utilisation of every minute allowed to you will be consequential to the quality of your life.

kuge

Peckham 15 Sep 21 8.37am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

What is it with you?

You seem to be under the impression that I take you seriously.
Talk about the subject or don't waste your time.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (15 Sep 2021 7.39am)

Good morning.

I know that you don't take me seriously and that inability that you have to deal with counterarguments based on evidence damages you.

I imagine that it's a defence that you have constructed around yourself to protect your fragile thinking. This is natural and predictable.

I never waste my time, essentially it is all we have. The utilisation of every minute allowed to you will be consequential to the quality of your life.

PalazioVecchio south pole 15 Sep 21 8.47am
Originally posted by kuge Good morning. I know that you don't take me seriously and that inability that you have to deal with counterarguments based on evidence damages you. I imagine that it's a defence that you have constructed around yourself to protect your fragile thinking. This is natural and predictable. I never waste my time, essentially it is all we have. The utilisation of every minute allowed to you will be consequential to the quality of your life. you are looking like a Paid Troll to me. Intent on boring us all off this thread. Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

PalazioVecchio

south pole 15 Sep 21 8.47am

Originally posted by kuge

Good morning.

I know that you don't take me seriously and that inability that you have to deal with counterarguments based on evidence damages you.

I imagine that it's a defence that you have constructed around yourself to protect your fragile thinking. This is natural and predictable.

I never waste my time, essentially it is all we have. The utilisation of every minute allowed to you will be consequential to the quality of your life.

you are looking like a Paid Troll to me. Intent on boring us all off this thread.

Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

Hrolf The Ganger 15 Sep 21 8.47am
Originally posted by kuge Good morning. I know that you don't take me seriously and that inability that you have to deal with counterarguments based on evidence damages you. I imagine that it's a defence that you have constructed around yourself to protect your fragile thinking. This is natural and predictable. I never waste my time, essentially it is all we have. The utilisation of every minute allowed to you will be consequential to the quality of your life. Another internet loon who thinks he's Freud. Please don't disrupt this thread any further.

Hrolf The Ganger

15 Sep 21 8.47am

Originally posted by kuge

Good morning.

I know that you don't take me seriously and that inability that you have to deal with counterarguments based on evidence damages you.

I imagine that it's a defence that you have constructed around yourself to protect your fragile thinking. This is natural and predictable.

I never waste my time, essentially it is all we have. The utilisation of every minute allowed to you will be consequential to the quality of your life.

Another internet loon who thinks he's Freud.

Please don't disrupt this thread any further.

Hrolf The Ganger 15 Sep 21 8.49am
Originally posted by PalazioVecchio you are looking like a Paid Troll to me. Intent on boring us all off this thread. He will fail.

Hrolf The Ganger

15 Sep 21 8.49am

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

you are looking like a Paid Troll to me. Intent on boring us all off this thread.

He will fail.

PalazioVecchio south pole 15 Sep 21 8.58am
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger He will fail. if you read his last 20 or 30 postings....its all just obstructive bickering about detail & sources. With nothing substantive to add to the argument. Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

PalazioVecchio

south pole 15 Sep 21 8.58am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

He will fail.

if you read his last 20 or 30 postings....its all just obstructive bickering about detail & sources. With nothing substantive to add to the argument.

Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

kuge Peckham 15 Sep 21 9.14am
Originally posted by PalazioVecchio you are looking like a Paid Troll to me. Intent on boring us all off this thread. Good morning Gosh, I wish I could get paid to do this.

kuge

Peckham 15 Sep 21 9.14am

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

you are looking like a Paid Troll to me. Intent on boring us all off this thread.

Good morning

Gosh, I wish I could get paid to do this.

kuge Peckham 15 Sep 21 9.16am
Originally posted by PalazioVecchio if you read his last 20 or 30 postings....its all just obstructive bickering about detail & sources. With nothing substantive to add to the argument. Whereas your posts a packed with insight ideas and data I don't believe for a moment that you have read even a tiny percentage of what I have posted.

kuge

Peckham 15 Sep 21 9.16am

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

if you read his last 20 or 30 postings....its all just obstructive bickering about detail & sources. With nothing substantive to add to the argument.

Whereas your posts a packed with insight ideas and data

I don't believe for a moment that you have read even a tiny percentage of what I have posted.

DanH SW2 15 Sep 21 9.16am
Originally posted by kuge Good morning Gosh, I wish I could get paid to do this. Fascinated as to who he thinks is paying you, and more importantly, why, for that matter. Some people have a massively over inflated sense of their own and these boards importance don't they. Edited by DanH (15 Sep 2021 9.16am)

DanH

SW2 15 Sep 21 9.16am

Originally posted by kuge

Good morning

Gosh, I wish I could get paid to do this.

Fascinated as to who he thinks is paying you, and more importantly, why, for that matter.

Some people have a massively over inflated sense of their own and these boards importance don't they.

Edited by DanH (15 Sep 2021 9.16am)

Palace Old Geezer Midhurst 15 Sep 21 9.18am
Bloomin''eck lads, what's going on here? When I started this thread I thought there might be some interesting views expressed about how inept the French seem to be in their attempts to stop little boatloads of immigrants finding their way across the Channel. Now I find it's degenerated into a philosophical slanging match. It's most unbecoming of you. Stop! Dad and I watched games standing on the muddy slope of the Holmesdale Road end. He cheered and I rattled.

Palace Old Geezer

Midhurst 15 Sep 21 9.18am

Bloomin''eck lads, what's going on here?

When I started this thread I thought there might be some interesting views expressed about how inept the French seem to be in their attempts to stop little boatloads of immigrants finding their way across the Channel.

Now I find it's degenerated into a philosophical slanging match. It's most unbecoming of you. Stop!

Dad and I watched games standing on the muddy slope of the Holmesdale Road end. He cheered and I rattled.

jeeagles 15 Sep 21 9.21am
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger You don't really expect me to respond to this garbage, do you? When you say something that displays a modicum of intelligence, I will answer it. Thanks Hrolf! Clearly you can't respond, because you don't understand what you are talking about.

jeeagles

15 Sep 21 9.21am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

You don't really expect me to respond to this garbage, do you?
When you say something that displays a modicum of intelligence, I will answer it.

Thanks Hrolf! Clearly you can't respond, because you don't understand what you are talking about.

PalazioVecchio south pole 15 Sep 21 9.37am
Originally posted by kuge Whereas your posts a packed with insight ideas and data I don't believe for a moment that you have read even a tiny percentage of what I have posted. i did and the Ambulance needed to give me CPR to get my heart restarted. Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

PalazioVecchio

south pole 15 Sep 21 9.37am

Originally posted by kuge

Whereas your posts a packed with insight ideas and data

I don't believe for a moment that you have read even a tiny percentage of what I have posted.

i did and the Ambulance needed to give me CPR to get my heart restarted.

Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

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