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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 13 Sep 21 5.18pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

towns with much immigrants have much crime.

Cheam has few immigrants and little crime.

Leicester & Birmingham top the crime tables.

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Edited by PalazioVecchio (13 Sep 2021 5.03pm)

Cheam? There are only 10,000 people living there.

I wouldn't be surprised if its ratio is as bad.

I would lock your bike just in case.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 13 Sep 21 5.24pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Here is a snippet taken from the home office's look at trends in homicide that itself admits the increases in murder rate against population size....though it is careful not to look into the reasons for it.

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What do trends in homicide look like?

There were 671 offences currently recorded as homicides in the year ending March 2019.1 This was 33 fewer (5% decrease) than in the previous year (Appendix Table 1).

To put the number of homicides in context, incidence rates show the volume of offences as a proportion of the resident population. The incidence rate for homicide remains very low, with 11.4 homicides recorded per million population during the year ending March 2019, a similar rate to the previous two years.

The number of homicides increased from around 300 per year in the early 1960s to over 700 per year in the early years of this century. This was at a faster rate than population growth over the same period, with the rate of homicide increasing from around 6 per million population in the early 1960s to 15.2 by the year ending March 2002.2 However, from the peak in this year, the volume of homicides generally decreased while the population of England and Wales continued to grow. The rate of homicide fell to 8.9 per million population in the year ending March 2015, before increasing until the year ending March 2018 (12.0). The latest year shows the first fall in homicides since the year ending March 2015, and a slight decrease in the homicide rate (Figure 1).'

 


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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 13 Sep 21 5.27pm

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

towns with much immigrants have much crime.

Cheam has few immigrants and little crime.

Leicester & Birmingham top the crime tables.

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Edited by PalazioVecchio (13 Sep 2021 5.03pm)


To be fair nothing much happens in Cheam, a little crime might shake the place up a bit.

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 13 Sep 21 7.32pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by eagleman13

Sorry cryst, not quite true anymore. If you were over 21 before 2002 & held a full GB license, then yes you can. A 7.5t vehicle is now classed as a Class 4 LGV(as is anything 5t & over).

Since 1997 category C1 is up to 7500kg looking at dvla website.

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 13 Sep 21 7.32pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Cause and correlation ?

there is no causal link between :

a) importing people from murderous parts of the World
and
b) our UK murder statistics going nuts.


Kingston, Jamaica

Afghanistan

Albania

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Edited by PalazioVecchio (13 Sep 2021 7.36pm)

 


Eze Peasy at Anfield....

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 13 Sep 21 7.38pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

As someone with an economics background, Stirling's understanding and use of statistics to try and support his arguments makes me want to weep.

There's no point though - he's a lost cause. There will always be something he tries to use to shoehorn in to fit his ideology no matter how tenuous or statistically illiterate.

Read the home office's own words.

The sad thing Dan is that you aren't really interested in truth.

Also, there are plenty in economics who think your faith in MMT is foolish in the extreme......watching inflation are you?

Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Sep 2021 7.44pm)

 


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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 13 Sep 21 7.49pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Read the home office's own words.

The sad thing Dan is that you aren't really interested in truth.

Also, there are plenty in economics who think your faith in MMT is foolish in the extreme......watching inflation are you?

Edited by Stirlingsays (13 Sep 2021 7.44pm)

The Home office 'words' are not worth the paper they are written on.

No two people in the Home Office have the slightest idea of what the other is doing.



 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 13 Sep 21 8.27pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

The Home office 'words' are not worth the paper they are written on.

No two people in the Home Office have the slightest idea of what the other is doing.



Not true tbh. The useless ones got called out 2 years ago and went crying to the press. The left wing media then tried to have ms Patel for bullying. You've had a company steeleye I think. Would you employ idiots just because!

 

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NE14T Flag 13 Sep 21 8.46pm

I sympathise with the people of Calais in many respects. They have all these troubled people attracted and camped there because they want to come to Britain. Admittedly most are economic migrants who just want a better life. I would be front of the queue if I was one of them coming from their awful countries where corruption rules supreme.

I have friends in France near Calais who confirm the French have always waved them on and turned a blind eye.

International law (is in this respect) for the naive and out of touch. The French don’t abide by it and we need to make policy to counter-act but still with a good heart.

 


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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 13 Sep 21 8.48pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

This is what is coming our way in the near future.

Don't say you weren't warned.

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View kuge's Profile kuge Flag Peckham 13 Sep 21 8.53pm Send a Private Message to kuge Add kuge as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

Cause and correlation ?

there is no causal link between :

a) importing people from murderous parts of the World
and
b) our UK murder statistics going nuts.


Kingston, Jamaica

Afghanistan

Albania

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Edited by PalazioVecchio (13 Sep 2021 7.36pm)

Indeed there is no causal link.
Unless you have some evidence?
The murder statistics have not 'gone nuts', perhaps you have?

Even the link that you posted about murder rates in Jamaica says that the number of murders is falling.

This book offers up a balanced view on the subject of immigration and crime and concludes that immigration does not lead to an increase in crime.

Fasani, F., Mastrobuoni, G., Owens, E., & Pinotti, P. (2019).
Immigration and Crime: Perceptions and Reality. In Does Immigration Increase Crime?
Cambridge: Cambridge University Press.

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View kuge's Profile kuge Flag Peckham 13 Sep 21 8.57pm Send a Private Message to kuge Add kuge as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

This is what is coming our way in the near future.

Don't say you weren't warned.

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People have been warning about global warming for decades.
Have you only just noticed?
And yes of course it will lead to migration all over the planet.
Unless perhaps the counties that are the biggest contributors to greenhouse gasses take radical steps to address the problem.

Personally, I am inclined to believe that it is too late.


 

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