Olise transfer speculation

This page is no longer updated, and is the old forum. For new topics visit the New HOL forum.

Olise transfer speculation

Page 20 of 34 < 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 >

Badger11 Beckenham 23 Jun 24 8.52am
I've seen clickbait suggesting that several PL clubs have offered to let us keep Olise until the end of the season, probably because they can't afford to buy him now. It doesn't make sense, it would be good for us as a club but why would Olise agree to it if Bayern are ready to buy now. One more point

Badger11

Beckenham 23 Jun 24 8.52am

I've seen clickbait suggesting that several PL clubs have offered to let us keep Olise until the end of the season, probably because they can't afford to buy him now.

It doesn't make sense, it would be good for us as a club but why would Olise agree to it if Bayern are ready to buy now.

One more point

Eagle-Trucker Cashel , Co Tipp 23 Jun 24 8.55am
Originally posted by PatrickA Not too many are denying Olise’s ability or right to move to a top Champions League. club. Perhaps we have a sell on clause so that when in a year or so he decides Bayern are not good enough for him,and Real Madrid come calling and buy him for £100 million, we at least get some further remuneration? Such is football these days resembling ever more a commodity trading platform. I agree with Eaglecoops point on loyalty and have sympathy for the 10 year olds who joyously purchased shirts with Olise’s name in the weeks after Olise signed a new 5 year deal which he had no intention of fulfilling. Perhaps they should have a money back guarantee in a similar way to Olise’s exit clause? Ultimately it’s the fans that lose out as more and more money leeches out of the game to agents and players, with the fans paying for much of this excess. We won’t go back, but I preferred the days of no exit clauses or sell on provisions and times when long term contracts had meaningful value. Where is the like button , alot of kids wasted a lot of money on that name . Give them their money back . When your children are teenagers, it’s important to have a dog so that someone in the house is happy to see you

Eagle-Trucker

Cashel , Co Tipp 23 Jun 24 8.55am

Originally posted by PatrickA

Not too many are denying Olise’s ability or right to move to a top Champions League.
club.
Perhaps we have a sell on clause so that when in a year or so he decides Bayern are not good enough for him,and Real Madrid come calling and buy him for £100 million, we at least get some further remuneration?
Such is football these days resembling ever more a commodity trading platform.

I agree with Eaglecoops point on loyalty and have sympathy for the 10 year olds who joyously purchased shirts with Olise’s name in the weeks after Olise signed a new 5 year deal which he had no intention of fulfilling.
Perhaps they should have a money back guarantee in a similar way to Olise’s exit clause?

Ultimately it’s the fans that lose out as more and more money leeches out of the game to agents and players, with the fans paying for much of this excess.

We won’t go back, but I preferred the days of no exit clauses or sell on provisions and times when long term contracts had meaningful value.

Where is the like button , alot of kids wasted a lot of money on that name . Give them their money back .

When your children are teenagers, it’s important to have a dog so that someone in the house is happy to see you

Behind Enemy Lines Sussex 23 Jun 24 8.55am
Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad Players come and they go, the only loyalty is from the fans, Kamada is a good player and I suspect Franca will turn out good, if there’s no more release clauses no need to sell, IMO I would accept an 80m+ offer for Guehi, and reinvest in some championship talent Bayern are getting a bargain at the reported £50 million. To put into context that’s half what Chelsea paid Brighton for Caciedo ( so forgettable that I probably can’t remember how to spell his name correctly). It’s a funny old world Saint… hats off to palace, they were always gonna be louder, and hate to say it but they were impressive ALL bouncing and singing.

Behind Enemy Lines

Sussex 23 Jun 24 8.55am

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

Players come and they go, the only loyalty is from the fans, Kamada is a good player and I suspect Franca will turn out good, if there’s no more release clauses no need to sell, IMO I would accept an 80m+ offer for Guehi, and reinvest in some championship talent

Bayern are getting a bargain at the reported £50 million. To put into context that’s half what Chelsea paid Brighton for Caciedo ( so forgettable that I probably can’t remember how to spell his name correctly). It’s a funny old world Saint…

hats off to palace, they were always gonna be louder, and hate to say it but they were impressive ALL bouncing and singing.

Badger11 Beckenham 23 Jun 24 8.59am
Originally posted by Eagle-Trucker Where is the like button , alot of kids wasted a lot of money on that name . Give them their money back . A valid point. Didn't someone suggest that shirts have an expiration date on the price tag? In the past many have been caught out by clubs issuing their new kit weeks after someone has bought the old one. I think in general clubs should have a discount if a player moves within 2 years of fans buying his shirt. Edited by Badger11 (23 Jun 2024 8.59am) One more point

Badger11

Beckenham 23 Jun 24 8.59am

Originally posted by Eagle-Trucker

Where is the like button , alot of kids wasted a lot of money on that name . Give them their money back .

A valid point. Didn't someone suggest that shirts have an expiration date on the price tag? In the past many have been caught out by clubs issuing their new kit weeks after someone has bought the old one.

I think in general clubs should have a discount if a player moves within 2 years of fans buying his shirt.

Edited by Badger11 (23 Jun 2024 8.59am)

One more point

jason7 croydon 23 Jun 24 9.02am
Matías Soulé Is who we should be after now,then MO will be a distant memory by Christmas.

jason7

croydon 23 Jun 24 9.02am

Matías Soulé Is who we should be after now,then MO will be a distant memory by Christmas.

NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 23 Jun 24 9.20am
Originally posted by Behind Enemy Lines Bayern are getting a bargain at the reported £50 million. To put into context that’s half what Chelsea paid Brighton for Caciedo ( so forgettable that I probably can’t remember how to spell his name correctly). It’s a funny old world Saint… Yes, they are. Because Olise had a £60m release clause inserted when he signed a new contract last summer. I'm disappointed in his leaving now after the way last season finished. I thought he could have given Palace another year. Especially when you consider the amount of games he missed. The only consolation is he's not going to Chelsea. Old, Ungifted and White

NEILLO

Shoreham-by-Sea 23 Jun 24 9.20am

Originally posted by Behind Enemy Lines

Yes, they are.

Because Olise had a £60m release clause inserted when he signed a new contract last summer.

I'm disappointed in his leaving now after the way last season finished. I thought he could have given Palace another year. Especially when you consider the amount of games he missed.

The only consolation is he's not going to Chelsea.

Old, Ungifted and White

Dubai Eagle 23 Jun 24 9.24am
Or UTD Originally posted by NEILLO The only consolation is he's not going to Chelsea.

Dubai Eagle

23 Jun 24 9.24am

Or UTD

Originally posted by NEILLO

The only consolation is he's not going to Chelsea.

Badger11 Beckenham 23 Jun 24 9.39am
Originally posted by NEILLO Yes, they are. Because Olise had a £60m release clause inserted when he signed a new contract last summer. I'm disappointed in his leaving now after the way last season finished. I thought he could have given Palace another year. Especially when you consider the amount of games he missed. The only consolation is he's not going to Chelsea. I've heard clickbait that the release clause is not simple. Perhaps the amount varies depending on the club e.g. if a Top CL European club comes in it's £50m if it's Moan United £60m and if it's Chelsea £100m Okay the last bit is a joke but it's a valid point. Palace would not want him to go to West Ham for example but Bayern or Real Madrid is another matter. Edited by Badger11 (23 Jun 2024 9.41am) Edited by Badger11 (23 Jun 2024 9.41am) One more point

Badger11

Beckenham 23 Jun 24 9.39am

Originally posted by NEILLO

Yes, they are.

Because Olise had a £60m release clause inserted when he signed a new contract last summer.

I'm disappointed in his leaving now after the way last season finished. I thought he could have given Palace another year. Especially when you consider the amount of games he missed.

The only consolation is he's not going to Chelsea.

I've heard clickbait that the release clause is not simple. Perhaps the amount varies depending on the club e.g. if a Top CL European club comes in it's £50m if it's Moan United £60m and if it's Chelsea £100m

Okay the last bit is a joke but it's a valid point. Palace would not want him to go to West Ham for example but Bayern or Real Madrid is another matter.

Edited by Badger11 (23 Jun 2024 9.41am)

One more point

kevlee born Wandsworth emigrated to Lanc... 23 Jun 24 9.54am
It is £50m then that’s below market value IMO. Following Palace since 25 Feb 1978

kevlee

born Wandsworth emigrated to Lanc... 23 Jun 24 9.54am

It is £50m then that’s below market value IMO.

Following Palace since 25 Feb 1978

eritheagle Erith 23 Jun 24 9.56am
SSN are reporting that fee is £50.7m and we may have to part with £5m of that to Reading according to reports.

eritheagle

Erith 23 Jun 24 9.56am

SSN are reporting that fee is £50.7m and we may have to part with £5m of that to Reading according to reports.

eritheagle Erith 23 Jun 24 9.59am
Originally posted by kevlee It is £50m then that’s below market value IMO. Agreed! But what can we do. We signed the contract with that buy out clause in it. I'm just hoping that the ease and smoothness in with which we handled the deal scores some brownie points with Bayern if we want any of their squad players in future (like Richards was).

eritheagle

Erith 23 Jun 24 9.59am

Originally posted by kevlee

It is £50m then that’s below market value IMO.

Agreed! But what can we do. We signed the contract with that buy out clause in it.

I'm just hoping that the ease and smoothness in with which we handled the deal scores some brownie points with Bayern if we want any of their squad players in future (like Richards was).

Painter Croydon 23 Jun 24 10.01am
Originally posted by kevlee It is £50m then that’s below market value IMO. The club have no say in the transfer fee, its all in Olises contract. He can now go to whatever club he wants without being out priced. Bayern will be in the same position, when Real Madrid decide they want him. No other player has a release fee, so we can ask what we want for them.

Painter

Croydon 23 Jun 24 10.01am

Originally posted by kevlee

It is £50m then that’s below market value IMO.

The club have no say in the transfer fee, its all in Olises contract. He can now go to whatever club he wants without being out priced. Bayern will be in the same position, when Real Madrid decide they want him.
No other player has a release fee, so we can ask what we want for them.

Teddy Eagle 23 Jun 24 10.20am
Accepting that if Olise hadn't had a release clause at Reading we might not have signed him in the first place they do make contracts even more difficult. If a player won't sign without one we have no option and presumably they have to be set at a viable level for the club involved - Barcelona have a 17 year old with one worth €1bn which is alright for them.

Teddy Eagle

23 Jun 24 10.20am

Accepting that if Olise hadn't had a release clause at Reading we might not have signed him in the first place they do make contracts even more difficult. If a player won't sign without one we have no option and presumably they have to be set at a viable level for the club involved - Barcelona have a 17 year old with one worth €1bn which is alright for them.

lefty27 ipswich 23 Jun 24 10.25am
Originally posted by PatrickA It's not so much bitterness, but it does lead to cynicism. The next time a high profile player signs a 5 year contract and gives a press conference about being delighted to be committed to the club and having the long term future settled, fans will be entitled to query the sincerity of the whole process. The contractual equivalent of kissing the badge at whichever club thry happen to play for. It’s literally nothing new though. I’ve been a palace fan for over 30 years so unfortunately I’ve become immune to this sort of thing. I think most people understood that he would leave this summer and the ‘5 year deal’ was a way of the club getting a bit more money for him and for him to get over his injury and continue his development. It’s s*** but it’s football and it has made me cynical. It could have been way way worse. He could have turned down the new deal and gone for £35 this summer.

lefty27

ipswich 23 Jun 24 10.25am

Originally posted by PatrickA

It's not so much bitterness, but it does lead to cynicism.
The next time a high profile player signs a 5 year contract and gives a press conference about being delighted to be committed to the club and having the long term future settled, fans will be entitled to query the sincerity of the whole process.
The contractual equivalent of kissing the badge at whichever club thry happen to play for.

It’s literally nothing new though. I’ve been a palace fan for over 30 years so unfortunately I’ve become immune to this sort of thing. I think most people understood that he would leave this summer and the ‘5 year deal’ was a way of the club getting a bit more money for him and for him to get over his injury and continue his development.
It’s s*** but it’s football and it has made me cynical.
It could have been way way worse. He could have turned down the new deal and gone for £35 this summer.

Eagle-Trucker Cashel , Co Tipp 23 Jun 24 10.58am
Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad Players come and they go, the only loyalty is from the fans, Kamada is a good player and I suspect Franca will turn out good, if there’s no more release clauses no need to sell, IMO I would accept an 80m+ offer for Guehi, and reinvest in some championship talent Yea the come and go , a bit like a night out in Amsterdam. I'd be more worried about Glasner leaving he was only signed up on a 2 year contract , players can be replaced but a manager like that we cant do without . When your children are teenagers, it’s important to have a dog so that someone in the house is happy to see you

Eagle-Trucker

Cashel , Co Tipp 23 Jun 24 10.58am

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

Yea the come and go , a bit like a night out in Amsterdam. I'd be more worried about Glasner leaving he was only signed up on a 2 year contract , players can be replaced but a manager like that we cant do without .

When your children are teenagers, it’s important to have a dog so that someone in the house is happy to see you

PatrickA London 23 Jun 24 11.38am
We do have an option - don't sign them if they demand a release clause. It's almost as if the lunatics have taken over the asylum. It's about the executives taking control of the clubs they manage as opposed to the players controlling the clubs. If all clubs agreed to not insert these clauses then they would soon disappear (a utopian world I know). I know the argument goes if it suits all parties what's the problem. Well I don't believe it suits our fans and I'm not sure the absence of Olise suits the club either. Originally posted by Teddy Eagle Accepting that if Olise hadn't had a release clause at Reading we might not have signed him in the first place they do make contracts even more difficult. If a player won't sign without one we have no option and presumably they have to be set at a viable level for the club involved - Barcelona have a 17 year old with one worth €1bn which is alright for them.

PatrickA

London 23 Jun 24 11.38am

We do have an option - don't sign them if they demand a release clause.

It's almost as if the lunatics have taken over the asylum.

It's about the executives taking control of the clubs they manage as opposed to the players controlling the clubs.
If all clubs agreed to not insert these clauses then they would soon disappear (a utopian world I know).

I know the argument goes if it suits all parties what's the problem.
Well I don't believe it suits our fans and I'm not sure the absence of Olise suits the club either.

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Eaglecoops CR3 23 Jun 24 12.02pm
Originally posted by PatrickA We do have an option - don't sign them if they demand a release clause. It's almost as if the lunatics have taken over the asylum. It's about the executives taking control of the clubs they manage as opposed to the players controlling the clubs. If all clubs agreed to not insert these clauses then they would soon disappear (a utopian world I know). I know the argument goes if it suits all parties what's the problem. Well I don't believe it suits our fans and I'm not sure the absence of Olise suits the club either. If every player had a release clause then a contract is not worth the paper it’s written on as basically it’s a one year rolling agreement and if someone likes the player then they have to wait no time at all and more importantly don’t have to negotiate as they know the applicable amount. It’s yet another easy way for big wealthy clubs to mop up the best talent, like it isn’t twisted in their favour already.

Eaglecoops

CR3 23 Jun 24 12.02pm

Originally posted by PatrickA

We do have an option - don't sign them if they demand a release clause.

It's almost as if the lunatics have taken over the asylum.

I know the argument goes if it suits all parties what's the problem.
Well I don't believe it suits our fans and I'm not sure the absence of Olise suits the club either.

If every player had a release clause then a contract is not worth the paper it’s written on as basically it’s a one year rolling agreement and if someone likes the player then they have to wait no time at all and more importantly don’t have to negotiate as they know the applicable amount.

It’s yet another easy way for big wealthy clubs to mop up the best talent, like it isn’t twisted in their favour already.

Hannes Vienna 23 Jun 24 12.28pm
He will be the Life of the Party when Bayern München turn up at the Oktoberfest.

Hannes

Vienna 23 Jun 24 12.28pm

He will be the Life of the Party when Bayern München turn up at the Oktoberfest.

Teddy Eagle 23 Jun 24 12.33pm
Originally posted by Eaglecoops If every player had a release clause then a contract is not worth the paper it’s written on as basically it’s a one year rolling agreement and if someone likes the player then they have to wait no time at all and more importantly don’t have to negotiate as they know the applicable amount. It’s yet another easy way for big wealthy clubs to mop up the best talent, like it isn’t twisted in their favour already. Yes, I agree. In Spain these clauses are compulsory which really suits Barcelona and Real Madrid who can consequently buy any player they like while setting unaffordable prices themselves. Along with the Bosman ruling contracts are fairly meaningless for players at the top level.

Teddy Eagle

23 Jun 24 12.33pm

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

It’s yet another easy way for big wealthy clubs to mop up the best talent, like it isn’t twisted in their favour already.

Yes, I agree. In Spain these clauses are compulsory which really suits Barcelona and Real Madrid who can consequently buy any player they like while setting unaffordable prices themselves.
Along with the Bosman ruling contracts are fairly meaningless for players at the top level.

dg1937 23 Jun 24 12.56pm
Originally posted by Glazier#1 Sorry, I completely disagree. I wish him nothing but the best and feel privileged, as a Palace fan, that he's worn the shirt for as long as he has. He should be ambitious, for, imo, he deserves to be playing in the best competitions in the world, such is his talent. It's players like him that make me love football, the beautiful game. I'm pleased he's not flash, too, as it happens. Just talented. For me, he is the best I've ever seen at Palace, even above Atillio. Good luck, MO, and best wishes. Edited by Glazier#1 (22 Jun 2024 11.16pm) Unleashing my inner Willo, I garland your post with approbation, Glazier. It has been a privilege to watch him in a Palace shirt and I wish him the very best in the rest of his career.

dg1937

23 Jun 24 12.56pm

Originally posted by Glazier#1

Sorry, I completely disagree.

I wish him nothing but the best and feel privileged, as a Palace fan, that he's worn the shirt for as long as he has.

He should be ambitious, for, imo, he deserves to be playing in the best competitions in the world, such is his talent. It's players like him that make me love football, the beautiful game.

I'm pleased he's not flash, too, as it happens. Just talented.

For me, he is the best I've ever seen at Palace, even above Atillio.

Good luck, MO, and best wishes.

Edited by Glazier#1 (22 Jun 2024 11.16pm)

Unleashing my inner Willo, I garland your post with approbation, Glazier. It has been a privilege to watch him in a Palace shirt and I wish him the very best in the rest of his career.

Page 20 of 34 < 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 >

Crystal Palace FC Supporters' Website - The Holmesdale Online

Olise transfer speculation

Site Map