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jamiemartin721  Reading 20 Apr 17 5.27pm |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
No, the problem with the current Labour leadership and their policies is that the electorate does not want to be subject to a communist-lite regime. Simple as that, and they will vote conservative and liberal in their droves to prove it. For someone who keeps going on about people being labelled as racists and fascists, unfairly, you do seem to like to throw out the Communist card. Corbyn isn't even Militant Labour of old, let alone Communist (lite). In fact, the Labour party has a long history of throwing out Socialist Party and SWP members from the Labour party.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 20 Apr 17 5.27pm |
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Originally posted by elgrande
Read the above link nick,seems rather authoritarian....funny time to suspend the challenger to corbyns mate. It's not worth commenting until we know why Coyne has been suspended.
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 elgrande bedford 20 Apr 17 5.28pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
It's not worth commenting until we know why Coyne has been suspended. Because he doesn't support Corbyn....and you know it.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 20 Apr 17 5.30pm |
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Originally posted by elgrande
Because he doesn't support Corbyn....and you know it. I know he doesn't support Corbyn. But until I know the reason for suspension I can't comment on it.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 20 Apr 17 5.31pm |
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Originally posted by elgrande
Read the above link nick,seems rather authoritarian....funny time to suspend the challenger to corbyns mate. I think that the Labour Party is basically all but split along left and centre-right. Corbyn probably spent too long trying to deal with the likes of Burnham and Johnson, when they clearly weren't ever going to accept the Labour party elected leader. Whilst I'm not a fan of Corbyn, I think he has been remarkably patient with the parliamentary labour party, and probably should have de-selected a large number of these MPs a long time ago.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 20 Apr 17 5.33pm |
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Originally posted by elgrande
Because he doesn't support Corbyn....and you know it. Seems fair enough, seeing just how much internal strife, crisis and grief the Anti-Corbyn labour party has inflicted on the leader their own membership selected twice.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 20 Apr 17 5.36pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
[/quote)e=steeleye20;3153517] IMO Michael Foot was a very able man who had the misfortune to look like a beatnik. Yep. And Jeremy isn't even able. Churchill was not all good but at least he defended his country. Corbyn would have surrendered when Hitler invaded the Sudetenland. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (20 Apr 2017 5.28pm) I doubt it, there wasn't really a 'pacifist progressive left' back in those days. That required the horrors of WWII, and the rise of CND. He'd probably have been a Quaker.
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| elgrande bedford 20 Apr 17 5.37pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Seems fair enough, seeing just how much internal strife, crisis and grief the Anti-Corbyn labour party has inflicted on the leader their own membership selected twice. But he's a union leaders, not a labour MP.
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Y Ddraig Goch  In The Crowd 20 Apr 17 5.41pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
I know he doesn't support Corbyn. But until I know the reason for suspension I can't comment on it. Two schools of thought at the moment Breach of DPA Criticism of McCluskey The trouble is, even if the suspension is valid, the timing makes it look dodgy.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 20 Apr 17 5.41pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
[/quote)e=steeleye20;3153517] IMO Michael Foot was a very able man who had the misfortune to look like a beatnik. Yep. And Jeremy isn't even able. Churchill was not all good but at least he defended his country. Corbyn would have surrendered when Hitler invaded the Sudetenland. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (20 Apr 2017 5.28pm)
Nobody could surrender at that time as we were not at war.
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 Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 20 Apr 17 5.44pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
[/quote)e=steeleye20;3153517] IMO Michael Foot was a very able man who had the misfortune to look like a beatnik. Yep. And Jeremy isn't even able. Churchill was not all good but at least he defended his country. Corbyn would have surrendered when Hitler invaded the Sudetenland. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (20 Apr 2017 5.28pm) It's Adolf's birthday today. 128 years young.
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 Hrolf The Ganger 20 Apr 17 6.07pm |
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Originally posted by Cucking Funt
It's Adolf's birthday today. 128 years young. Are Brazil having a national holiday or was it Argentina? Maybe Antarctica....
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| Hrolf The Ganger 20 Apr 17 6.09pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Nobody could surrender at that time as we were not at war.
That's true, but I'm sure Jeremy would already have had the speech written.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 20 Apr 17 6.24pm |
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Originally posted by legaleagle
The (metaphorical) surrender of appeasement was down to the decidedly non left wing Neville Chamberlain and his ilk...In 1938,Attlee (as Labour leader,and incidentally, still IMHO the best post war PM) was a strong critic of appeasement. That's true, and Chamberlain was desperately hoping Britain could be spared a war. He trusted Hitler to be reasonable and was wrong. What he did was in good faith and with Britain's interests at heart.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 20 Apr 17 6.25pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Are Brazil having a national holiday or was it Argentina? Maybe Antarctica.... The German govt say they don't know a thing they just pay his war pension as normal.
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 20 Apr 17 7.40pm |
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Originally posted by legaleagle
The (metaphorical) surrender of appeasement was down to the decidedly non left wing Neville Chamberlain and his ilk...In 1938,Attlee (as Labour leader,and incidentally, still IMHO the best post war PM) was a strong critic of appeasement. I agree with your post, including Attlee being the best post-war PM, a champion of ordinary British working people - he must be turning in his grave with how the Labour Party has 'progressed'.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 20 Apr 17 7.41pm |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
I agree with your post, including Attlee being the best post-war PM, a champion of ordinary British working people - he must be turning in his grave with how the Labour Party has 'progressed'. I think he'd agree with Corbyn.
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 20 Apr 17 7.42pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Communist Lite regime? He wants to reintroduce Clause 4 'State control of all means of production, distribution and exchange'. How does that differ from communist policy?
We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell] |
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