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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 04 Sep 19 2.24pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

'Johnson's an election winner'

Something tells me you're going to go missing again around the election result.

 


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View the silurian's Profile the silurian Flag The garden of England.(not really) 04 Sep 19 2.29pm Send a Private Message to the silurian Add the silurian as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Oh I regret having to repeat myself as much as anyone else does but unless and until people understand the implications of what a Parliamentary democracy is, what it does and why what Parliament is doing is 100% correct I need to keep saying it.

When people understand and accept then there will be no need.


So why did Cameron give a referendum??? What was the point if the MPs are just gonna ignore the result
? I for one will NEVER vote again for anyone, what is the point?

 

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View Matov's Profile Matov Flag 04 Sep 19 2.34pm Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

If nothing else you must accept the governments strategy has now completely backfired.

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Not so sure. They would have known Remainers would pull this stunt and would know that it would work due to the treacherous scum masquerading as Conservatives. No surprise there. Johnson knows that he did not have a working majority and would have to fight an election sooner rather than later.

So they forced this all now, knowing it will lead to an election.

They get to clear out the dead-wood from their own back-benches and when the election campaign starts, everybody singing from the same song-sheet. As opposed to Labour with one eye on the Lib-Dems attracting their Remain membership whilst their tribal northern voters no longer fall into line like they have done for decades.

And getting ripped to pieces over changing their stance from Leave to Remain.

Nah. This has all been gamed. Why on earth would the Tories have not anticipated events of the last couple of days?

 


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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 04 Sep 19 2.36pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by twist

But what those rebels have told Brussels, is that you can screw us right royally because there is now way in the world we will allow a no deal brexit, which would be disastrous for both Britain and Europe.

That won't necessarily work. Parliament can pass a law refusing to allow No Deal and insisting on an extension and Boris Johnson can then go to Brussels to ask for the extension which he will subsequently vote against. Game, set and match

 

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I think the following will happen:

The no no-deal bill will pass.
A general election will be held.
It will be a hung parliament.
Nothing will be able to be done.
All the MP's will continue to claim expenses, wages, cheap food and booze and the electorate, as always, will moan (me included).

 


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View Bexley Eagle's Profile Bexley Eagle Flag Bexley Kent 04 Sep 19 2.50pm Send a Private Message to Bexley Eagle Add Bexley Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by johnno42000

I think the following will happen:

The no no-deal bill will pass.
A general election will be held.
It will be a hung parliament.
Nothing will be able to be done.
All the MP's will continue to claim expenses, wages, cheap food and booze and the electorate, as always, will moan (me included).

That sounds about right. You can bet your bottom dollar that whatever happens it won't be the MP's left with empty pockets.

 

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View Lyons550's Profile Lyons550 Flag Shirley 04 Sep 19 3.53pm Send a Private Message to Lyons550 Add Lyons550 as a friend

Originally posted by johnno42000

I think the following will happen:

The no no-deal bill will pass.
A general election will be held.
It will be a hung parliament.
Nothing will be able to be done.
All the MP's will continue to claim expenses, wages, cheap food and booze and the electorate, as always, will moan (me included).

So so true...

 


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View SW19 CPFC's Profile SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe West 04 Sep 19 3.55pm Send a Private Message to SW19 CPFC Add SW19 CPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Matov


Not so sure. They would have known Remainers would pull this stunt and would know that it would work due to the treacherous scum masquerading as Conservatives. No surprise there. Johnson knows that he did not have a working majority and would have to fight an election sooner rather than later.

So they forced this all now, knowing it will lead to an election.

They get to clear out the dead-wood from their own back-benches and when the election campaign starts, everybody singing from the same song-sheet. As opposed to Labour with one eye on the Lib-Dems attracting their Remain membership whilst their tribal northern voters no longer fall into line like they have done for decades.

And getting ripped to pieces over changing their stance from Leave to Remain.

Nah. This has all been gamed. Why on earth would the Tories have not anticipated events of the last couple of days?

I think you're giving the blonde buffoon too much credit. Especially after his atrocious debating performances over the last 48 hours. Certainly didn't look like a man for whom everything is going to plan.

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 04 Sep 19 4.05pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

How does that famous saying go?....'first they laugh at you'.

Johnson's a lefty heart-breaker and while he's far too milk toast for me it's still fun to watch.

 


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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 04 Sep 19 4.21pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Matov

WTF?

Leave or Remain. A simple question. No preconditions attached to either position. And numerous promises the result would be honoured. What is not to understand?

If you want the votes of 17 million plus people ignored then have the courage to admit that. Don't hide behind this 'oh poor Leavers did not understand what the word 'leave' meant.'. We did.

Yes, it was well understood in respect of the information available at the time. That included an unequivocal statement that leaving would come with a deal. How many times does this have to be stated for goodness sake. Perhaps some people didn't care whether there was going to be a deal but that is what was promised and what was voted upon. There may well have been a significant group that would not have voted for a no-deal Brexit, that cannot be known as it was never tested.

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 04 Sep 19 4.24pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

You are really getting pretty tiresome

Then simply accept the veracity of his point.

 

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