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Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 24 Apr 17 3.14pm
Originally posted by nickgusset Because it puts the events in the wider context giving more detail rather than taking quotes out of true context to make an opinion piece into a hatchet job. Ok, I will bite. Did McDonnell say this? Yes or no? What context makes it acceptable? In 2003, at a gathering in London to commemorate the IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands, he said IRA terrorists should be “honoured”: “It's about time we started honouring those people involved in the armed struggle. It was the bombs and bullets and sacrifice made by the likes of Bobby Sands that brought Britain to the negotiating table. The peace we have now is due to the action of the IRA. [Link] [Link] I can't be arsed trawling though the plethora of reports from all sides of the media that you will dismiss as context. Edited by Y Ddraig Goch (24 Apr 2017 3.18pm) the dignified don't even enter in the game

Y Ddraig Goch

In The Crowd 24 Apr 17 3.14pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Because it puts the events in the wider context giving more detail rather than taking quotes out of true context to make an opinion piece into a hatchet job.

Ok, I will bite. Did McDonnell say this? Yes or no? What context makes it acceptable?

In 2003, at a gathering in London to commemorate the IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands, he said IRA terrorists should be “honoured”:

“It's about time we started honouring those people involved in the armed struggle. It was the bombs and bullets and sacrifice made by the likes of Bobby Sands that brought Britain to the negotiating table. The peace we have now is due to the action of the IRA.

[Link]

I can't be arsed trawling though the plethora of reports from all sides of the media that you will dismiss as context.

Edited by Y Ddraig Goch (24 Apr 2017 3.18pm)

the dignified don't even enter in the game

elgrande bedford 24 Apr 17 3.18pm
Originally posted by nickgusset Because it puts the events in the wider context giving more detail rather than taking quotes out of true context to make an opinion piece into a hatchet job. Or in other words it's trying to justify what he said. Of course the author of that piece is neutral in his views....you can fit most things into the context that suits either side you want to. always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

elgrande

bedford 24 Apr 17 3.18pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Because it puts the events in the wider context giving more detail rather than taking quotes out of true context to make an opinion piece into a hatchet job.

Or in other words it's trying to justify what he said.

Of course the author of that piece is neutral in his views....you can fit most things into the context that suits either side you want to.

always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

miss smith london 24 Apr 17 3.20pm
Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch The Guardian [Link] New Statesman [Link] In stead of dismissing the sources, feel free to to counter any of the facts as stated if it was not for the center and left wing of the labour party there would never had been any form of peace process for years they were in negotiations with the i.r.a which was what lead to the peace process,the fact that the same very misleading story is more than one publication shows a massive bias ,

miss smith

london 24 Apr 17 3.20pm

Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch

The Guardian [Link]

New Statesman [Link]

In stead of dismissing the sources, feel free to to counter any of the facts as stated

if it was not for the center and left wing of the labour party there would never had been any form of peace process for years they were in negotiations with the i.r.a which was what lead to the peace process,the fact that the same very misleading story is more than one publication shows a massive bias ,

elgrande bedford 24 Apr 17 3.21pm
Originally posted by miss smith if it was not for the center and left wing of the labour party there would never had been any form of peace process for years they were in negotiations with the i.r.a which was what lead to the peace process,the fact that the same very misleading story is more than one publication shows a massive bias , Erm....sorry I thought John Major was instrumental in the start of the process. always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

elgrande

bedford 24 Apr 17 3.21pm

Originally posted by miss smith

Erm....sorry I thought John Major was instrumental in the start of the process.

always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 24 Apr 17 3.23pm
Originally posted by miss smith if it was not for the center and left wing of the labour party there would never had been any form of peace process for years they were in negotiations with the i.r.a which was what lead to the peace process,the fact that the same very misleading story is more than one publication shows a massive bias , Peter Brookes, John Major? the dignified don't even enter in the game

Y Ddraig Goch

In The Crowd 24 Apr 17 3.23pm

Originally posted by miss smith

Peter Brookes, John Major?

the dignified don't even enter in the game

steeleye20 Croydon 24 Apr 17 3.25pm
Blair talked to the IRA the conservatives would not until they ceased violence. Fundamental to the IRA was that the conservatives are the conservative and unionist party. Just be glad its over.

steeleye20

Croydon 24 Apr 17 3.25pm

Blair talked to the IRA the conservatives would not until they ceased violence.

Fundamental to the IRA was that the conservatives are the conservative and unionist party.

Just be glad its over.

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 24 Apr 17 3.25pm
Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch Ok, I will bite. Did McDonnell say this? Yes or no? What context makes it acceptable? In 2003, at a gathering in London to commemorate the IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands, he said IRA terrorists should be “honoured”: “It's about time we started honouring those people involved in the armed struggle. It was the bombs and bullets and sacrifice made by the likes of Bobby Sands that brought Britain to the negotiating table. The peace we have now is due to the action of the IRA. [Link] [Link] I can't be arsed trawling though the plethora of reports from all sides of the media that you will dismiss as context. Edited by Y Ddraig Goch (24 Apr 2017 3.18pm) Do you think we would have had the Anglo Irish agreement were it not for the troubles before?

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 24 Apr 17 3.25pm

Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch

Ok, I will bite. Did McDonnell say this? Yes or no? What context makes it acceptable?

In 2003, at a gathering in London to commemorate the IRA hunger striker Bobby Sands, he said IRA terrorists should be “honoured”:

[Link]

I can't be arsed trawling though the plethora of reports from all sides of the media that you will dismiss as context.

Edited by Y Ddraig Goch (24 Apr 2017 3.18pm)

Do you think we would have had the Anglo Irish agreement were it not for the troubles before?

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 24 Apr 17 3.27pm
Originally posted by elgrande Or in other words it's trying to justify what he said. Of course the author of that piece is neutral in his views....you can fit most things into the context that suits either side you want to. Not justify what he said but counter the bulls*** and half truths that you seem happy to continue perpetuating.

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 24 Apr 17 3.27pm

Originally posted by elgrande

Or in other words it's trying to justify what he said.

Of course the author of that piece is neutral in his views....you can fit most things into the context that suits either side you want to.

Not justify what he said but counter the bulls*** and half truths that you seem happy to continue perpetuating.

elgrande bedford 24 Apr 17 3.30pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 Blair talked to the IRA the conservatives would not until they ceased violence. Fundamental to the IRA was that the conservatives are the conservative and unionist party. Just be glad its over. Yes blair gave all the the terrorist letters saying you will not be charged,you are no longer terrorist. Including the guy that was responsible for the Hyde Park bombings. And relatives of some of the dead have been trying to bring a private prosecution against him...but guess what have been refused legal aid time and time again.. always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

elgrande

bedford 24 Apr 17 3.30pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Blair talked to the IRA the conservatives would not until they ceased violence.

Fundamental to the IRA was that the conservatives are the conservative and unionist party.

Just be glad its over.

Yes blair gave all the the terrorist letters saying you will not be charged,you are no longer terrorist.
Including the guy that was responsible for the Hyde Park bombings.
And relatives of some of the dead have been trying to bring a private prosecution against him...but guess what have been refused legal aid time and time again..

always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

elgrande bedford 24 Apr 17 3.32pm
Originally posted by nickgusset Not justify what he said but counter the bulls* and half truths that you seem happy to continue perpetuating. But our are happy to keep accepting the bulls* they come out with..... No f***ing difference always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

elgrande

bedford 24 Apr 17 3.32pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Not justify what he said but counter the bulls*** and half truths that you seem happy to continue perpetuating.

But our are happy to keep accepting the bulls*** they come out with.....
No f***ing difference

always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

miss smith london 24 Apr 17 3.38pm
Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch Peter Brookes, John Major? when did you think the troubles northern in ireland started 1995 Edited by miss smith (24 Apr 2017 4.03pm)

miss smith

london 24 Apr 17 3.38pm

Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch

Peter Brookes, John Major?

when did you think the troubles northern in ireland started 1995

Edited by miss smith (24 Apr 2017 4.03pm)

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 24 Apr 17 3.39pm
Originally posted by elgrande But our are happy to keep accepting the bulls* they come out with..... No fing difference No I'm happy to look at things in a wider context to try and see through the bulls**. 80% of the media owned by 4 or so people are anti Corbyn, so forgive me if I take what they say with a large pinch of salt until I find out more.

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 24 Apr 17 3.39pm

Originally posted by elgrande

But our are happy to keep accepting the bulls*** they come out with.....
No f***ing difference

No I'm happy to look at things in a wider context to try and see through the bulls***.
80% of the media owned by 4 or so people are anti Corbyn, so forgive me if I take what they say with a large pinch of salt until I find out more.

Tom-the-eagle Croydon 24 Apr 17 3.42pm
Originally posted by nickgusset No I'm happy to look at things in a wider context to try and see through the bulls*. 80% of the media owned by 4 or so people are anti Corbyn**, so forgive me if I take what they say with a large pinch of salt until I find out more. 80% of the Labour Party are also anti Corbyn. He's an un-electable fool Nick. "It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit

Tom-the-eagle

Croydon 24 Apr 17 3.42pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

No I'm happy to look at things in a wider context to try and see through the bulls***.
80% of the media owned by 4 or so people are anti Corbyn, so forgive me if I take what they say with a large pinch of salt until I find out more.

80% of the Labour Party are also anti Corbyn. He's an un-electable fool Nick.

"It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit

Kermit8 Hevon 24 Apr 17 3.43pm
Originally posted by elgrande Yes blair gave all the the terrorist letters saying you will not be charged,you are no longer terrorist. Including the guy that was responsible for the Hyde Park bombings. And relatives of some of the dead have been trying to bring a private prosecution against him...but guess what have been refused legal aid time and time again.. It was a pact with the devil. Horrible but necessary. One of the most vicious of the Shankhill Butchers quite happily walks around and frequents the streets where he abducted, tortured, and slashed the throats of innocents. He was let out under the Agreement too. It has worked tbf. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]

Kermit8

Hevon 24 Apr 17 3.43pm

Originally posted by elgrande

It was a pact with the devil. Horrible but necessary. One of the most vicious of the Shankhill Butchers quite happily walks around and frequents the streets where he abducted, tortured, and slashed the throats of innocents. He was let out under the Agreement too. It has worked tbf.

Big chest and massive boobs

[Link]

elgrande bedford 24 Apr 17 3.43pm
Originally posted by nickgusset No I'm happy to look at things in a wider context to try and see through the bulls***. 80% of the media owned by 4 or so people are anti Corbyn, so forgive me if I take what they say with a large pinch of salt until I find out more. The guardian, and the new statesman aren't are they...? always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

elgrande

bedford 24 Apr 17 3.43pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

The guardian, and the new statesman aren't are they...?

always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

elgrande bedford 24 Apr 17 3.46pm
B Originally posted by Kermit8 It was a pact with the devil. Horrible but necessary. One of the most vicious of the Shankhill Butchers quite happily walks around and frequents the streets where he abducted, tortured, and slashed the throats of innocents. He was let out under the Agreement too. It has worked tbf. I quite happily include the protestants in that as well kermits...they are all c***s,and should still be rotting in jail. So that's probably why those relatives have been refused legal aid so many times. I think it's the sum of £65/70k they need. always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

elgrande

bedford 24 Apr 17 3.46pm

Originally posted by Kermit8

I quite happily include the protestants in that as well kermits...they are all c***s,and should still be rotting in jail.

So that's probably why those relatives have been refused legal aid so many times.
I think it's the sum of £65/70k they need.

always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 24 Apr 17 3.47pm
Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle 80% of the Labour Party are also anti Corbyn. He's an un-electable fool Nick. Who has managed to be elected several times and has pretty much the biggest party membership in Europe.

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 24 Apr 17 3.47pm

Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle

80% of the Labour Party are also anti Corbyn. He's an un-electable fool Nick.

Who has managed to be elected several times and has pretty much the biggest party membership in Europe.

miss smith london 24 Apr 17 3.52pm
i watched jeremy coybyn on the andrew marr show where marr starts off asking him a his polices on defence he might as well said are you still beating your wife and i demand a yes or no answer ,this media bias is beyond the pale

miss smith

london 24 Apr 17 3.52pm

i watched jeremy coybyn on the andrew marr show where marr starts off asking him a his polices on defence he might as well said are you still beating your wife and i demand a yes or no answer ,this media bias is beyond the pale

Tom-the-eagle Croydon 24 Apr 17 3.52pm
Originally posted by nickgusset Who has managed to be elected several times and has pretty much the biggest party membership in Europe. You reinforce my point Nick, even with a huge party membership base Corbyn will still never be elected. "It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit

Tom-the-eagle

Croydon 24 Apr 17 3.52pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Who has managed to be elected several times and has pretty much the biggest party membership in Europe.

You reinforce my point Nick, even with a huge party membership base Corbyn will still never be elected.

"It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit

susmik PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 24 Apr 17 3.55pm
Originally posted by Jimenez I have no problems with anyone wanting or supporting a united Ireland, but to openly support those murdering scumbags is a good enough reason for me not to vote for this moron. Yes first class moron: [Link] Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.

susmik

PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 24 Apr 17 3.55pm

Originally posted by Jimenez

I have no problems with anyone wanting or supporting a united Ireland, but to openly support those murdering scumbags is a good enough reason for me not to vote for this moron.

Yes first class moron:
[Link]

Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.

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