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 silvertop  Portishead 15 Oct 23 11.17am |
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Originally posted by HKOwen
Irony abounds as BBC vandalised by pro Palestine group. The Louvre was evacuated due to a bomb threat, this was on most major news outlets such as AP, can't see anything on BBC. Only trolls now defending the BBC Again fully reported in all bulletins. Why is this thread choc full of posters who attack but don't listen/watch? Memories of Mary Whitehouse who used to challenge the morality of shows she had never seen. There are good arguments up the thread on public funding for a service losing its audience to streaming etc., but this kind of barrel scraping criticism is not them.
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| Glazier#1 15 Oct 23 11.41am |
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Originally posted by silvertop
Because there are some whose only intent is to further their own point of view, not to learn or to debate. You'll find that links that might further our understanding are not even looked at. If it's reasoned debate you want - wrong place, mate. Again fully reported in all bulletins. Why is this thread choc full of posters who attack but don't listen/watch? Memories of Mary Whitehouse who used to challenge the morality of shows she had never seen. There are good arguments up the thread on public funding for a service losing its audience to streaming etc., but this kind of barrel scraping criticism is not them.
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 georgenorman 15 Oct 23 12.06pm |
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Originally posted by silvertop
Again fully reported in all bulletins. Why is this thread choc full of posters who attack but don't listen/watch? Memories of Mary Whitehouse who used to challenge the morality of shows she had never seen. There are good arguments up the thread on public funding for a service losing its audience to streaming etc., but this kind of barrel scraping criticism is not them. You don't have to experience something to have a view on its morality. I've never murdered anyone but I think murder is immoral.
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| Stirlingsays 15 Oct 23 12.22pm |
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Originally posted by silvertop
Again fully reported in all bulletins. Why is this thread choc full of posters who attack but don't listen/watch? Memories of Mary Whitehouse who used to challenge the morality of shows she had never seen. There are good arguments up the thread on public funding for a service losing its audience to streaming etc., but this kind of barrel scraping criticism is not them. She is perhaps an extreme example but nevertheless she wasn't wrong. She correctly highlighted the decline in morality. I dread to think how she would react to the current dross that fills the screens....it would probably kill her a second time.
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Jimenez  SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 15 Oct 23 12.26pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
It's unlikely that Hamas are mining busy roads that have their own people on them. I suppose you could take the line that they are killing their own people deliberately but it's probably not the case. Once the Israeli armour comes in and the streets are a battleground I imagine they will start mining. Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Oct 2023 10.27pm) I bet it is.
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| Stirlingsays 15 Oct 23 12.32pm |
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Originally posted by Jimenez
I bet it is. Whatever happened it's horrendous.
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HKOwen  Hong Kong 15 Oct 23 12.38pm |
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Originally posted by silvertop
Again fully reported in all bulletins. Why is this thread choc full of posters who attack but don't listen/watch? Memories of Mary Whitehouse who used to challenge the morality of shows she had never seen. There are good arguments up the thread on public funding for a service losing its audience to streaming etc., but this kind of barrel scraping criticism is not them. I couldn't see anything on BBC website about Louvre.If I missed it fair enough if someone can send a link.
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| Glazier#1 15 Oct 23 12.59pm |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
You don't have to experience something to have a view on its morality. I've never murdered anyone but I think murder is immoral. --------------------------- Spurious argument. The two cannot be compared. Just silly imo.
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| Stirlingsays 15 Oct 23 1.05pm |
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Originally posted by Glazier#1
--------------------------- Spurious argument. The two cannot be compared. Just silly imo. No it isn't. For example, Mary Whitehouse's belief that swearing in TV shows is bad doesn't mean she had to watch every show that contains swearing in it to justify the belief. Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Oct 2023 1.07pm)
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| Glazier#1 15 Oct 23 1.15pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
The content of programmes and the morality therein is open to debate and opinions will differ, of course. Sometimes context will colour our view on that. There were/are many that believe that swearing, for instance is acceptable within tv programmes. When it comes to murder, it is universally agreed that it is against the law, morally wrong, a capital offence and against the tenets of just about all religions.
No it isn't. For example, Mary Whitehouse's belief that swearing in TV shows is bad doesn't mean she had to watch every show that contains swearing in it to justify the belief. Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Oct 2023 1.07pm)
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| Stirlingsays 15 Oct 23 1.26pm |
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Originally posted by Glazier#1
The content of programmes and the morality therein is open to debate and opinions will differ, of course. Sometimes context will colour our view on that. There were/are many that believe that swearing, for instance is acceptable within tv programmes. A fair enough take.
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PalazioVecchio  south pole 15 Oct 23 2.09pm |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
You don't have to experience something to have a view on its morality. I've never murdered anyone but I think murder is immoral. and in the case of Ian Huntley ? i would disagree with killing him cos i believe he should suffer a lot, over a long time.
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| georgenorman 15 Oct 23 2.22pm |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
and in the case of Ian Huntley ? i would disagree with killing him cos i believe he should suffer a lot, over a long time. Legally executing Ian Huntley would not be murder, it would be a public service though.
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Slimey Toad  Karsiyaka, North Cyprus 15 Oct 23 2.26pm |
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Originally posted by PalazioVecchio
and in the case of Ian Huntley ? i would disagree with killing him cos i believe he should suffer a lot, over a long time. This is the perfect argument for capital punishment. Without that sanction it makes sadists of innocent bystanders and the victims.
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| silvertop Portishead 15 Oct 23 4.12pm |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
You don't have to experience something to have a view on its morality. I've never murdered anyone but I think murder is immoral. Point dodged. People are alleging bbc bias by wrongly claiming certain issues are not being reported on a medium they neither watch nor listen to. They are also wrong to single out the bbc in that what they abhor (eg not calling Hamas terrorists) applies accross the broadcast media.
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| silvertop Portishead 15 Oct 23 4.13pm |
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Originally posted by HKOwen
I couldn't see anything on BBC website about Louvre.If I missed it fair enough if someone can send a link. I heard it on R4 news on the hour.
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| Stirlingsays 15 Oct 23 4.32pm |
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Originally posted by silvertop
Point dodged. People are alleging bbc bias by wrongly claiming certain issues are not being reported on a medium they neither watch nor listen to. They are also wrong to single out the bbc in that what they abhor (eg not calling Hamas terrorists) applies accross the broadcast media. I would respect the BBC's position more if they actually were politically neutral.....or at least genuinely tried to be. However, their website for example does show its colours in what it chooses to highlight, how long and often and in what it won't represent. It's essentially whatever the liberal establishment think filtered through some rules that they try to bend....like only representing the opposing opinion sparingly and at the end of a story. The BBC had the chance to try to ensure that who it employed reflected the political composition of the country when it internally debated this over twenty years ago.....Tellingly it rejected the chance....It's far happier instead to over represent ethnic and other minority groups in its output rather than reflect the reality that not everyone agrees with their neo and social liberalism. That was the chance to ensure the long term survival of the BBC....I've said it before and I'll say it now. That decision has been its death bell as the institution it was. For example, I'm a social conservative and what exists for me there? Why would any social conservative be happy funding the BBC? Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Oct 2023 4.37pm)
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| silvertop Portishead 15 Oct 23 8.57pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I would respect the BBC's position more if they actually were politically neutral.....or at least genuinely tried to be. However, their website for example does show its colours in what it chooses to highlight, how long and often and in what it won't represent. It's essentially whatever the liberal establishment think filtered through some rules that they try to bend....like only representing the opposing opinion sparingly and at the end of a story. The BBC had the chance to try to ensure that who it employed reflected the political composition of the country when it internally debated this over twenty years ago.....Tellingly it rejected the chance....It's far happier instead to over represent ethnic and other minority groups in its output rather than reflect the reality that not everyone agrees with their neo and social liberalism. That was the chance to ensure the long term survival of the BBC....I've said it before and I'll say it now. That decision has been its death bell as the institution it was. For example, I'm a social conservative and what exists for me there? Why would any social conservative be happy funding the BBC? Edited by Stirlingsays (15 Oct 2023 4.37pm) By seeking to steer a middle ground they will upset everyone. However your reference to ethnic inclusively draws a point I must have now said 3 times on this thread alone. It has been a statutory requirement since the Tories subjected them (and ch4) to the provisions of the Equality Act. It must really annoy 75% + of those still watching which, of course, suits the very party who enacted it and who are ideologically opposed to the channel.
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