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View eritheagle's Profile eritheagle Flag Erith 11 Mar 23 10.19am Send a Private Message to eritheagle Add eritheagle as a friend

Originally posted by Palace Old Geezer

My days of watching MOTD after spending Saturday evenings studiously avoiding the football results are long gone. I find the clips of games too brief and the pundit's ramblings too long.

But, do you know what, in the absence of Lineker, pundits and commentators I might actually watch it tonight. I will see more of the games and I can form my own opinions about the outcomes.

I hope that tonight, the BBC sees the highest audience of this outdated show ever just to show Lineker and his supporters how inconsequential they are.

 

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View YT's Profile YT Flag Oxford 11 Mar 23 10.26am Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

Originally posted by Tunbridge

Funny that you're not on here complaining about what Fiona Bruce said on Question time.

If Gary Lineker had tweeted support for Braverman's policy even in valid cases, would he be disciplined by the BBC for lack of impartiality?

Or is it ok to be political provided you support the government?


Yes of course he would. Aside from the fact that he hasn't been disciplined in this instance in any case.

 


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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 11 Mar 23 10.38am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

It is understood that 'Football Focus' will not air as pundits have withdrawn from the programme.
From my perspective it is a moribund programme well past its 'Sell-By date'.
There will be no outpouring of grief in the Willo abode.

 

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View Tunbridge's Profile Tunbridge Flag Tunbridge Wells 11 Mar 23 10.40am Send a Private Message to Tunbridge Add Tunbridge as a friend

Very impartial I would say, as her husband is a Tory donor.

And Richard Sharp, BBC Chairman arranged a loan for Johnson.

But that's ok then, nothing to see here?

 

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View Plumpton eagle's Profile Plumpton eagle Flag East Sussex 11 Mar 23 10.44am Send a Private Message to Plumpton eagle Add Plumpton eagle as a friend

Tunbridge

Very impartial I would say, as her husband is a Tory donor.

And Richard Sharp, BBC Chairman arranged a loan for Johnson.

But that's ok then, nothing to see here?

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Richard Sharp is also a self proclaimed donor to the tory party and Boris Johnson recommended him to be BBC chairman after he helped arrange loan for him.

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 11 Mar 23 10.46am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Tunbridge

Very impartial I would say, as her husband is a Tory donor.

And Richard Sharp, BBC Chairman arranged a loan for Johnson.

But that's ok then, nothing to see here?

Presenters, pundits etc have their political views and allegiances but they have to adhere to the broadcasters impartiality rules.

Edited by Willo (11 Mar 2023 10.47am)

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 11 Mar 23 10.50am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

I said a few days ago that it seemed Linekers removal looked inevitable given the positions on both sides and so it has been proved.

Leaving aside the comments about MOTD itself, its tiredness and lack of actual football and concentrating only on the issue of whether Lineker should be able to make whatever comments he likes, on anything he wants, in his own time, I can see both sides of the argument. You don't have to agree with what Lineker said to agree with that.

I can see the need for the BBC to not only be impartial but to be seen to be impartial. However, I can also see the need for the BBC to be free of government influence and be seen to be free of government influence.

This is a much bigger issue than just what has happened to Lineker, or whether you agree, or disagree with his political views or those of the government. With another government the reverse could happen.

I read what Greg Dyke said today and am persuaded by it. I won't repeat it all, but essentially he thinks the precedent in the BBC is that news and current affairs employees are expected to be impartial, and not the rest. Otherwise, no-body working in another area could ever express an opinion about anything, which clearly doesn't happen. Dyke, a former BBC Chairman, thinks what the BBC did yesterday was a mistake.

If news and current affairs presenters can discuss sports in their private lives, and they obviously do, why cannot sports presenters discuss politics in theirs?

Politics are not discussed on MOTD. Political actions by the players might be, but that's in context.

This could well be a crunch point for Richard Sharp, the BBC Chairman who is already seen as being too close to the government. If he fails to back his staff he may face a growing rebellion from them. Whether Tim Davie, the BBC Director General, can pour oil on the water and find a workable compromise is an open question, but it doesn't appear likely at the moment.

I know the BBC haters will be rejoicing at Lineker and the BBC "finally" being put in their place and suffering some "cancel culture" medicine of their own, but this is more important than political point scoring. Those of us who believe the BBC to be an essential bastion against government interference, and ultimate control, over what we are allowed to be told, will be watching and waiting to make sure it's preserved.

 


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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 11 Mar 23 10.58am Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

It is understood that 'Football Focus' will not air as pundits have withdrawn from the programme.
From my perspective it is a moribund programme well past its 'Sell-By date'.
There will be no outpouring of grief in the Willo abode.

There’s very few of them who I’d even bother to express any fondness for.

I quite like Richards and Murphy on MoTD and I’m always pleased to see Clinton, Murray and Jobi but even considering that I fail to believe they can’t all be replaced.

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 11 Mar 23 11.07am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

All these pundits showing solidarity towards Lineker and withdrawing their services from MOTD and 'Football Focus'.

Interesting that some were not prepared to show any moral solidarity with the abused migrant workers, women, or people in Qatar subjected to human rights abuses.
Lineker etc, only virtue signal when the target is a Conservative Government.

Edited by Willo (11 Mar 2023 11.09am)

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 11 Mar 23 11.13am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

All these pundits showing solidarity towards Lineker and withdrawing their services from MOTD and 'Football Focus'.

If these presenters, pundits and commentators are breaking their contractual obligations I hope that they are sacked.

If the odious Lineker is forced to withdraw his services permanently I also hope that the others continue their solidarity with him and resign

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 11 Mar 23 11.16am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

If these presenters, pundits and commentators are breaking their contractual obligations I hope that they are sacked.

If the odious Lineker is forced to withdraw his services permanently I also hope that the others continue their solidarity with him and resign

I wholeheartedly concur with these sentiments.

The 'Virtue signalling' Lineker (A very poor man's Des Lynam) who I am led to believe was rewarded with a BBC bonus for his work at the World Cup.

 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 11 Mar 23 11.21am Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Just get Clinton in with his cool attire. Clinton to the rescue.

 


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