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Ian-VI Flag Vicenza 12 Aug 20 8.56pm

Originally posted by Phil’s Barber

I don’t think anyone can say for certain that this was the case because a number of other articles have said we received two bids from Everton, both of which were for more than the Arsenal offer, one of them considerably more.

Now I’m not saying we did, because I don’t know, but with equal measure I’m not saying we didn’t, because there are a number of firm reports stating that we did.

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Edited by Phil’s Barber (12 Aug 2020 8.39pm)

Instead this is probably one of the very few times where one can say for certain that this was the case, because it wasnt' Sky, or the Sun (...) saying it, it was an official statement of Everton FC.
So for whatever firm report newspapers made, they didn't bid, at least a second time for sure.

 


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Phil’s Barber Flag Crowborough 12 Aug 20 9.08pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

The club will have a price in mind but a chunk of that will go to United thus making his value that much greater as a player as opposed to taking the money.
Zaha is probably the most talented player we have ever had. As I have said many times, the idea that we can sell him and replace him with similar talent is a pipe dream. Buying 3 average players with the money will not improve our performances.
Cheer up. I'm fairly sure he will go next season.

I agree about him probably being the most talented player we’ve ever had but he’s just not produced it of late. One can only survive on past greatness for so long and with this past seasons performances and product that has taken a massive hit. You can have all the talent in the world but if you’re no longer utilising it...

He can be good for us if he refinds his mojo but is that actually likely to happen? We know what he’s like!

 

Phil’s Barber Flag Crowborough 12 Aug 20 9.47pm

Originally posted by Ian-VI

Instead this is probably one of the very few times where one can say for certain that this was the case, because it wasnt' Sky, or the Sun (...) saying it, it was an official statement of Everton FC.
So for whatever firm report newspapers made, they didn't bid, at least a second time for sure.

So they might have bid once then?

And if they did they left it at that when we turned down their first offer?

Because of course a club are only ever going to make one bid and not follow it up again if the first approach has been turned down.

There could be any number of reasons why Everton (or any club for that matter) unsuccessful with the pursuit of a player, are going to conduct matters in private and not be entirely open and transparent with what actually went on, if and when it doesn’t come off.

How many times have we heard managers and clubs deny any interest in a player...only to Sign them A few days later?

Why are there so many ‘Undisclosed Fees’ as well if clubs are happy for everyone to know the full details of bids and transfer dealings?

Transfer negotiations can be very smoke and mirrors so we have to be open minded about what may or may not have gone on and to say categorically that we only ever received one firm bid from Arsenal for £45M last summer is I believe in all probability, not the case, especially when more than one sports writer are on record with specific details that would indicate otherwise.


Edited by Phil’s Barber (12 Aug 2020 10.01pm)

 

ger20 Flag London 13 Aug 20 5.33pm

Looks like Zaha is going nowhere. Willian to Arsenal on a free means they do no need him. Seems like nobody else does. Everton may but would he sway one mid table club for another and take a drop in wages. Sadly we are lumbered with him and he with us.

 

HesHereHesThere Flag Beckenham 13 Aug 20 8.02pm

Originally posted by ger20

Looks like Zaha is going nowhere. Willian to Arsenal on a free means they do no need him. Seems like nobody else does. Everton may but would he sway one mid table club for another and take a drop in wages. Sadly we are lumbered with him and he with us.

Thanks you’ve really cheered me up

 

EddieMac Flag 13 Aug 20 8.12pm

Originally posted by ger20

Looks like Zaha is going nowhere. Willian to Arsenal on a free means they do no need him. Seems like nobody else does. Everton may but would he sway one mid table club for another and take a drop in wages. Sadly we are lumbered with him and he with us.

Lumbered with our best player. Il take that.

 

Putitout Flag Oxford 13 Aug 20 8.29pm


Well there doesn’t seem to be much interest as of yet.
Even the media, have only moderate interest. Nothing like the storm they were a big part of last year. Arsenal, and Everton, both quiet .The new agent doesn’t appear to be making waves, either ,so maybe Wilf, has smelt the coffee.

 

kev64 Flag Cambs 13 Aug 20 9.45pm

Originally posted by Putitout


Well there doesn’t seem to be much interest as of yet.
Even the media, have only moderate interest. Nothing like the storm they were a big part of last year. Arsenal, and Everton, both quiet .The new agent doesn’t appear to be making waves, either ,so maybe Wilf, has smelt the coffee.

He’s on what 120 a week , and a 30 mill plus the usual fees so 5 year contract added your looking at a 60 mill investment. How many clubs outside the top 6 can pay that in this market. Zero Plus none need him .. they have it covered, even his beloved Arsenal.

Unless a European team stumps up the cash of Wilf takes a big whack on his take home, I think he blew it with his going through the motion antics instead of showcasing himself after lockdown.

A real shame for both club and Wilf , we need the cash and Wilf wants to go, tbh I can’t any serious offers coming in.

 

Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 13 Aug 20 10.01pm

He may put it in next season.

 


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moffi Flag Bexhill 13 Aug 20 10.51pm

Shame as he’s given a hell of a lot to the club and visa versa, but you can’t sign a mega 5 year deal and then expect to be sold a year in on the cheap. Recently when the effort goes in it just seems about getting the move. Probably been badly advised and overcooked the contract, now resents it. Hopefully he knuckles down and cements the legacy, as good as he is not sure how well he’d cope with bench time at a top club anyway.

 

Eaglecoops Flag CR3 14 Aug 20 9.09am

Originally posted by moffi

Shame as he’s given a hell of a lot to the club and visa versa, but you can’t sign a mega 5 year deal and then expect to be sold a year in on the cheap. Recently when the effort goes in it just seems about getting the move. Probably been badly advised and overcooked the contract, now resents it. Hopefully he knuckles down and cements the legacy, as good as he is not sure how well he’d cope with bench time at a top club anyway.

The rumour goes that SP promised Zaha could leave after a year if he signed a 5 year contract so that they could maximise his sale value. How much truth in it I don't know but it makes sense hence his strops.

 

southnorwoodhill Flag 14 Aug 20 9.34am

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

The rumour goes that SP promised Zaha could leave after a year if he signed a 5 year contract so that they could maximise his sale value. How much truth in it I don't know but it makes sense hence his strops.

Perhaps he should have got it in writing.

 

Spiderman Flag Horsham 14 Aug 20 9.49am

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

The rumour goes that SP promised Zaha could leave after a year if he signed a 5 year contract so that they could maximise his sale value. How much truth in it I don't know but it makes sense hence his strops.

Surely would have made sure there was a release clause added

 

est1905 Flag 14 Aug 20 5.34pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

He may put it in next season.

If there is no interest before the window shuts I think he'll have no choice but to really knuckle down and show his stuff.
Another mediocre season means Palace will be the highest level he'll ever play for.
If he wants that move so bad he'll quickly realise the only way is to start showing bigger clubs what they are missing.

 

Bearcage Flag Welling 14 Aug 20 5.52pm

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

The rumour goes that SP promised Zaha could leave after a year if he signed a 5 year contract so that they could maximise his sale value. How much truth in it I don't know but it makes sense hence his strops.

Not heard this rumour, and if it was true I’m sure it’d be widespread. Sounds more like someone having a dig at SP.

 

Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 14 Aug 20 6.42pm

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

The rumour goes that SP promised Zaha could leave after a year if he signed a 5 year contract so that they could maximise his sale value. How much truth in it I don't know but it makes sense hence his strops.

Sounds plausible to me. Parish is slippery but business, as lots of footballers call it and themselves, is business. They want it that way, well..... Nothing in writing? Naivety in a short career.

 


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Painter Flag Croydon 14 Aug 20 7.17pm

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

The rumour goes that SP promised Zaha could leave after a year if he signed a 5 year contract so that they could maximise his sale value. How much truth in it I don't know but it makes sense hence his strops.

Thats all it is, a rumour. There is evidence at all, just supporter website gossip. His agent and lawyers would have been all over the contract, but he was happy to sign without a release clause.

 

Rachid Rachid Rachid Flag 14 Aug 20 10.58pm

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

The rumour goes that SP promised Zaha could leave after a year if he signed a 5 year contract so that they could maximise his sale value. How much truth in it I don't know but it makes sense hence his strops.

He has the padding of £120k a week for this massive kick in the bollocks (even if it were true).

I would think that SP knew exactly what he was doing when he gave the contract in view of the player's age and the agent's desire to get his his nose in the trough.

The problem is that an unhappy player earning too much money usually ends badly.

 

Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 15 Aug 20 12.51am

Originally posted by Rachid Rachid Rachid

He has the padding of £120k a week for this massive kick in the bollocks (even if it were true).

I would think that SP knew exactly what he was doing when he gave the contract in view of the player's age and the agent's desire to get his his nose in the trough.

The problem is that an unhappy player earning too much money usually ends badly.

Yep. Wise post. Not an easy one for Parish tbf to him though. Zaha’s lack of end product, more value to us, Hodgson devaluing players other than defensive players in years ahead after the contract. But then Hodgson has done that in our battle to stay up so he’s guaranteed our safety but devalued our attacking players. Benteke included seeing as he was on fire the season before Roy. He never recovered after. Benteke takes a lot of blame but Hodgson set his team up around the back 7 or 8, not an attacking pattern of play. Swings and roundabouts.

 


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moffi Flag Bexhill 15 Aug 20 2.56am

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

The rumour goes that SP promised Zaha could leave after a year if he signed a 5 year contract so that they could maximise his sale value. How much truth in it I don't know but it makes sense hence his strops.

Does seem like it, but I reckon that price must always have been £65/70m. Clubs may have seen them coming.

 

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