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Eaglecoops Flag CR3 10 Jul 20 9.24pm

Originally posted by Den1923

Just show us all what an amazing job Roy has done since he arrived to clear-up the FdV mess. Roy needs the board to support him in this coming window but sadly antecedence says otherwise!

Limited spend last three years, richest league in the world, billionaire owners, spent £183m less than our local rivals. Makes you kind of wonder where all the money has gone and before anyone says Sakho and Benteke, and then PVA, Kouyate, Milivojevic, you can add that lot up and it still comes to nowhere near £100m let alone £180m . Methinks the septics are siphoning money off to their US companies.

 

Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 10 Jul 20 11.05pm

Originally posted by Vaibow


and.... did they say anything back or was tis just to tell us you spoke to someone in the know?

With the greatest of respect, Yes to the first question and No to the last.

Edited by Willo (10 Jul 2020 11.15pm)

 

Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 11 Jul 20 8.36am

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

Limited spend last three years, richest league in the world, billionaire owners, spent £183m less than our local rivals. Makes you kind of wonder where all the money has gone and before anyone says Sakho and Benteke, and then PVA, Kouyate, Milivojevic, you can add that lot up and it still comes to nowhere near £100m let alone £180m . Methinks the septics are siphoning money off to their US companies.

The bbs go through the company accounts with fine tooth combs so any money going astray would be common knowledge within hours of the company accounts being available. Our wages are incredibly high for our size and budget, hiding for years our inept transfer strategies and tools to deliver. I.e - none.

 


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Eaglecoops Flag CR3 11 Jul 20 9.10am

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

The bbs go through the company accounts with fine tooth combs so any money going astray would be common knowledge within hours of the company accounts being available. Our wages are incredibly high for our size and budget, hiding for years our inept transfer strategies and tools to deliver. I.e - none.

You say that but don’t we have the most complicated company structure ever known to man where you could hide almost anything and there is also the small matter of the lack of investment from our billionaires, but I suppose they can be as tight as they want to be.

 

monkey Flag Sittingbourne,but made in Bromley 11 Jul 20 9.38am

Love Roy, but yes time to go for me. I’m even beginning to miss Pardew, at least the games were enjoyable even if we were heading for the trap door

 

YoDougie Flag London 11 Jul 20 10.32am

I completely respect and am very happy with the job that Roy has done for us since his arrival, but unfortunately Roy was/is a short-term solution for us.

A few here saying back Roy with money for signings, but personally I think that would be a waste of investment. Roy has 1 year left on his contract and will only ever be with us on a rolling 1-year deal from this point forward. With this uncertainty on whether he will be here long-term and of course his age indicates he very likely will not, why invest in his players when he could be gone very soon?

Roy has a fantastic football brain. Yes, his football for us might not always be exciting but we have gathered brilliant results and had consecutive seasons of solid finishes in the league (more importantly, not been relegated). So I'd love him to stay in the club in an advisory capacity.

But it think it is the right decision to replace Roy now and have a new manager for the start of the new season.

If we don't we are simply delaying that same move by a year. You'd imagine with the 3 years (give or take) Roy has been at the helm, the board have been seeking options of a successor. If they haven't... then who knows what the plan is.

So yes, I think now is the time for Roy to leave. But not because I think he's done a terrible job.

 

PatrickA Flag London 11 Jul 20 10.33am

I was reminded of Hodgson earlier today when hearing a discussion on Jack Charlton who has just passed away.
When he managed the successful Ireland team he would leave more talented players out like Liam Brady and David O’Leary to accommodate workhorses who would conform to the tactical plans.
Similarly Ray Lewington has said players won’t be selected by Hodgson unless they do exactly what he requires.
Both old school managers I suppose, but sometimes difficult for fans to accept when performances are dull and sterile.

 

Eaglecoops Flag CR3 11 Jul 20 11.01am

Originally posted by PatrickA

I was reminded of Hodgson earlier today when hearing a discussion on Jack Charlton who has just passed away.
When he managed the successful Ireland team he would leave more talented players out like Liam Brady and David O’Leary to accommodate workhorses who would conform to the tactical plans.
Similarly Ray Lewington has said players won’t be selected by Hodgson unless they do exactly what he requires.
Both old school managers I suppose, but sometimes difficult for fans to accept when performances are dull and sterile.

Head...Nail

 

cryrst Flag The garden of England 11 Jul 20 2.13pm

Originally posted by PatrickA

I was reminded of Hodgson earlier today when hearing a discussion on Jack Charlton who has just passed away.
When he managed the successful Ireland team he would leave more talented players out like Liam Brady and David O’Leary to accommodate workhorses who would conform to the tactical plans.
Similarly Ray Lewington has said players won’t be selected by Hodgson unless they do exactly what he requires.
Both old school managers I suppose, but sometimes difficult for fans to accept when performances are dull and sterile.

Which is probably why wilf has lost his mojo and luka doesnt go over half way or any players shoot from farther than 10 yards.

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards grumpymort Flag US/Thailand/UK 11 Jul 20 2.26pm

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

You say that but don’t we have the most complicated company structure ever known to man where you could hide almost anything and there is also the small matter of the lack of investment from our billionaires, but I suppose they can be as tight as they want to be.


True you can and notice SP has sub companies on their as well so they are taking million or so out of the club.

If you are referring to the Americans they never came in with intention to spend money on the likes of transfers this was stated at the beginning they put a nice amount in which was ring fenced to go towards upgrades to stadium etc.

Big Sam even thanked them for giving him the funds he had to spend in that Jan window.

They gave the club a loan as well which was 30-40m this is why the sale of Aaron they pocked most of it to pay them back but some other dumb person went and took another loan out.

People who keep asking about the money look at the wages the bill is awful we are really over paying and it doesn't help when you keep giving ungraceful people like Wilf even more money when they still had like 3-4 years left on current deal.

This stuff is nothing to do with Roy anyway.

If we lose to Villa 100% he has to go no more excuses from anybody

 


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PZ Eagle Flag Penzance 11 Jul 20 5.53pm

Originally posted by cryrst

Which is probably why wilf has lost his mojo and luka doesnt go over half way or any players shoot from farther than 10 yards.


Funny I could have sworn Wilf's goal against Chelsea was hit from about 30 yards out. Who can ever forget Andros's goal against Man City.

 


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EddieMac Flag 11 Jul 20 6.04pm

Roy is going in 12 months. The way this thread is being played out, it is though he has just signed a 10 year contract. Relax folks he will be gone soon.

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards grumpymort Flag US/Thailand/UK 11 Jul 20 6.06pm

Originally posted by PZ Eagle


Funny I could have sworn Wilf's goal against Chelsea was hit from about 30 yards out. Who can ever forget Andros's goal against Man City.


it's rare that players do it and the odd times they do they end up being awful.

just look back at Wilf history how many of them has he done you can count them on one hand and this is suppose to be a world class player the guy even misses a lot of chances close up the other week he missed a sitter plus messed up with 1 on 1 with keeper

 


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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 11 Jul 20 6.16pm

Originally posted by grumpymort


it's rare that players do it and the odd times they do they end up being awful.

just look back at Wilf history how many of them has he done you can count them on one hand and this is suppose to be a world class player the guy even misses a lot of chances close up the other week he missed a sitter plus messed up with 1 on 1 with keeper

Apropos shooting from distance, QPR manager Mark Warburton doesn't like his players shooting from 30 yards, the maximum he allows is around 22 yards.

 

adelaar Flag Edgware 11 Jul 20 6.16pm

Just watched the first half an hour of the Sheff Utd-Chelsea game. Wilder is giving an absolute masterclass of how a team with a small budget should be playing. Chalk and cheese how we played against Chelsea last week.
Is it too much to ask the players to move more, especially when transitioning from defence to attack? Our players look so static when I watch us. How I'd love us to have an Enda Stevens left wing back to get forward and give crosses to Benteke.
I love Roy but we need to think very carefully who our next manager is. We need someone young, hungry and with progressive thinking like Wilder.
We are all realistic and don't expect to win a lot of games, but all I read is we want to see some attacking and to give it a go. Wilder seems to have this balance with his team, why can't we?

 

Vaibow Flag vancouver/croydon 11 Jul 20 8.35pm

Originally posted by Willo

With the greatest of respect, Yes to the first question and No to the last.

Edited by Willo (10 Jul 2020 11.15pm)

What did they say then, otherwise your comment was kinda redundant... with the greatest of respects.

 


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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 11 Jul 20 11.54pm

Originally posted by Vaibow

What did they say then, otherwise your comment was kinda redundant... with the greatest of respects.

The person, who is not connected with our club, shared my concerns about our prospects next season.

 

Spiderman Flag Horsham 12 Jul 20 7.07am

Originally posted by Willo

The person, who is not connected with our club, shared my concerns about our prospects next season.

How is the wife, Willo?

 

jeeagles Flag 12 Jul 20 9.10am

Originally posted by adelaar

Just watched the first half an hour of the Sheff Utd-Chelsea game. Wilder is giving an absolute masterclass of how a team with a small budget should be playing. Chalk and cheese how we played against Chelsea last week.
Is it too much to ask the players to move more, especially when transitioning from defence to attack? Our players look so static when I watch us. How I'd love us to have an Enda Stevens left wing back to get forward and give crosses to Benteke.
I love Roy but we need to think very carefully who our next manager is. We need someone young, hungry and with progressive thinking like Wilder.
We are all realistic and don't expect to win a lot of games, but all I read is we want to see some attacking and to give it a go. Wilder seems to have this balance with his team, why can't we?

Thought the Chelsea side we played last week was probably the weakest line up they have fielded against us since we were promoted. Lots of emerging talent but they aren't quite their yet.

That team had us dead and burried after 27 minutes, but were thrashed by Sheffield United yesterday.

A lot of people have been saying the league is getting stronger. I'd disagree. Liverpool, Leicester, and Spurs are better than they were. Man City are about the same. Man U, Chelsea, and Arsenal are a shadow of their former selves. The rest of league aren't much to write home about.

 

Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 12 Jul 20 9.12am

Originally posted by Spiderman

How is the wife, Willo?

I understand the reason for your comment based on my last riposte concerning a conversation I had with a gentleman relating to our prospects next season!

Apropos my dear wife, she requested a coat of animal fur so I have bought her a 'Donkey jacket'.

 

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