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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 01 Jun 23 10.12am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by georgenorman

Do you accept that there are people who can be identified by the term 'white'?

No.

What I accept is that there are some people who self-identify by the term "white". Which doesn't mean they are correct.

 


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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 01 Jun 23 10.26am Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

It was scaringly commonplace when I was there but, whilst the worse, isn't the only crime. Some of the ex-pats I know call it the "Wild-East", love the lack of law and order, and enjoy the need to protect themselves. The people are lovely, warm and friendly but start an argument over even a tiny matter and they might shoot you.

I imagine so but they're not as likely to do so in 50+ other countries.

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 01 Jun 23 10.27am Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

No.

What I accept is that there are some people who self-identify by the term "white". Which doesn't mean they are correct.

But if they self - identify as the opposite gender they are correct.

 

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View georgenorman's Profile georgenorman Flag 01 Jun 23 10.39am Send a Private Message to georgenorman Add georgenorman as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

No.

What I accept is that there are some people who self-identify by the term "white". Which doesn't mean they are correct.

You of course often post nonsense, but here you are plumbing new depths. You are literally arguing that black is white.

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 01 Jun 23 10.53am Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

But if they self - identify as the opposite gender they are correct.

Sinn Féin will not allow Nigel, from CarrickFergus, to identify as British.
But they will allow him to identify as female (if he puts on an Orange Dress & a wig ).

Does anybody have the details of that Gaff by a Tory Home Secretary ? A woman who said that Ulster Catholics can become british 'if they have been living there long enough'.

Regarding them as some blow-ins off the banana-boat.

They have been there since the year 500 AD, duh ! Before England even existed. It doesn't really count as 'migration' when you stand still and the State arrives into your patch, now does it ?

Edited by PalazioVecchio (01 Jun 2023 10.58am)

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 01 Jun 23 11.34am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I don't think that's true. They are just using shorthand to assist people in completing census forms. Which I think is unfortunate as it allows the kind of views that are found here to gain traction.

Ethnicity has nothing to do with the colour of someone's skin.

You are wrong.

Ethnicity includes all aspects of someone's background. It does not exclude their race....which again, you try to reduce to skin colour as if that's all it means.

Yours is the politics that doesn't deserve traction because it's based on lies, half truths and deceptions.

Edited by Stirlingsays (01 Jun 2023 11.49am)

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 01 Jun 23 11.44am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Wisbech's long reply pushes the idea that encouraging immigration into the country is good for economics and thinks the negative affects are worth it...presumably (because it doesn't affect him).

Then he suggests that when immigrants are getting old....seeming to ignore the fact that this has already happened from earlier immigration....that we should just deport non integrated problem people....Where? That he seems to omit.

It's a completely facetious point as he knows that would never happen. If someone is born here they are a citizen/subject and the law would need significant alternation to achieve that.

However I do note with some amusement Wisbech's alignment here with the old National Front policy on easy deportation.

And again, he seems completely ignorant of the sheer numbers of new immigrants he'd constantly need to support the increase in numbers. As Badger pointed out, all this is doing is storing up considerable problems for the future as automation is the obvious solution to these problems not immigrant populations.

Strictly enforced work visas could be looked at....but as in Japan it would have to be taken seriously...which considering the current state of our legal and institutional base is highly unlikely.

Plus all the globalist institutions he supports are aggressively pushing immigration into European countries. They wouldn't support his far right deportation plan.


Edited by Stirlingsays (01 Jun 2023 2.23pm)

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 01 Jun 23 11.48am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

As Owen shows, Wisbech's attempts to muddy the south east Asian point is very disingenuous.

He should move into marketing.

 


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So if Wisbech is saying that a white person doesn't exist and should just be referred to as a European. Then presumably he's saying that a Jewish person doesn't exist and should just be referred to as a middle eastern.

Edited by Stirlingsays (01 Jun 2023 11.57am)

 


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View SW19 CPFC's Profile SW19 CPFC Flag Addiscombe West 01 Jun 23 2.39pm Send a Private Message to SW19 CPFC Add SW19 CPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

You are wrong.

Ethnicity includes all aspects of someone's background. It does not exclude their race....which again, you try to reduce to skin colour as if that's all it means.

Yours is the politics that doesn't deserve traction because it's based on lies, half truths and deceptions.

Edited by Stirlingsays (01 Jun 2023 11.49am)

mmmm

This is a hotly debated area, and I'm not sure there is a cast iron 'it's this or it's that' that everyone agrees on, but you both appear to be wrong according to one generally accepted description of the two things...

Race and ethnicity are used to categorize sections of the population. Race refers to dividing people into groups, often based on physical characteristics. Ethnicity refers to the cultural expression and identification of people of different geographic regions, including their customs, history, language, and religion.

In basic terms, race describes physical traits, and ethnicity refers to cultural identification. Race may also be identified as something you inherit, whereas ethnicity is something you learn.

However once again the thread topic is not being discussed and everybody is falling back into the same old tropes...

 


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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 01 Jun 23 3.38pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC


In basic terms, race describes physical traits, and ethnicity refers to cultural identification. Race may also be identified as something you inherit, whereas ethnicity is something you learn.
..

in the past, many people have changed ethnicity....

like that blonde NI lady who put on a Hijab and joined ISIS. Or the many kids of Elites that did the latter years of their childhood in Rome.....Arminius etc.

or any Crocodile Dundee type character, who goes Native and eschews his background.

Migration ? i guess some of the people arriving into the UK will be more UK patriotic than the people already here. Some of the ones already here will burn poppies. Some new arrivals love the Beatles & the Premier League, & the Royal Family.

Race ? never an easy subject to discuss. My favourite story if the mixed-race siblings.....same parents. One kid is paler than the other kid .....and often the two kids can end up living in, say Croydon, with a different demographic of friends, speaking with a different accent, and listening to different music.

 


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 01 Jun 23 3.39pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

I imagine so but they're not as likely to do so in 50+ other countries.

There are 11 countries in SE Asia, not 50. Would you want to go to Myanmar? Cambodia and Laos don't sound particularly safe either.

 


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