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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 12 Dec 23 10.07pm

Originally posted by cryrst

Musk doesn’t care. X could go belly up and he would still be very comfortable thankyou. He’s playing a game because when the advertisers spend their dollar elsewhere advertising their woke incendiary propaganda x will be all over it. You do realise he doesn’t do random. Everything he does is part of a bigger picture. He hasn’t gotten so minted by gambling on outsiders. He picks the favourite every time. Bud have relented and many others will. They are typical lefty’s eating themselves and each other. Watch and it will come to pass. Look at the unis having funding pulled for supporting terrorism. It’s all about money and with money comes power and with power comes control. Musk isn’t in that mould. He wants fairness and tbh I admire his resilience as it will reap his reward.

We’ll see. I don’t think for one moment that any advertiser gives two tinkers curses over what you think of as “woke”. They only think about what the consumers are likely to think. They will come back to X if the consumers do. Right now Musk is alienating the consumers. Being personally an extreme freedom of speech advocate might win you friends who admire the likes of Alec Jones but it’s going to make a lot more enemies. I stopped using Twitter as soon as he bought it. I think it’s finished as a major platform and will be relegated to the margins.

No Uni supports terrorism. They do though criticise Israel. So do I and a lot of other people. I think it’s quite disgraceful to see the way that anti Zionist sentiment is conflated by some in the USA with anti-semitism when they are totally different. Pressurising Unis over funding because you are a Zionist would encourage me to look for alternative funding. It leaves a bad taste.

 


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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 14 Dec 23 8.16am

How do you solve a problem like Maria (Or rather Gary Lineker).

The new BBC Chairman has suggested that Lineker has broken the corporations impartiality guidelines.

Samir Shah must be a wet dream for the BBC, he ticks all the right boxes for the Chairman they want and is most definitely not an anti BBC Tory.

So Gary must be a little worried about his comments.

GL has been walking a tightrope for several years with his regular outbursts, regardless of whether he has broken the rules or not, or if the rules should be different he has been dragging the BBC into an impartiality row not of their choosing.

His last outburst caused a strike by his fellow BBC presenters. As a manager I would not be happy with him because as well as bringing the BBC into disrepute (a fight they don't want) the strike made the management look weak and powerless.

In fact GL's latest outburst was followed up with an attack on Grant Shapps "to go read the impartiality rules" is a provocative "sack me if you dare" to the BBC.

My guess is that GL is becoming toxic and more trouble than he's worth. He may not get sacked but it wouldn't surprise me if he is told his contract won't be renewed whenever that is.

I suspect that the new Chairman has decided that GL is not a hill worth dying on.


 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 14 Dec 23 8.50am

Originally posted by Badger11

How do you solve a problem like Maria (Or rather Gary Lineker).

The new BBC Chairman has suggested that Lineker has broken the corporations impartiality guidelines.

Samir Shah must be a wet dream for the BBC, he ticks all the right boxes for the Chairman they want and is most definitely not an anti BBC Tory.

So Gary must be a little worried about his comments.

GL has been walking a tightrope for several years with his regular outbursts, regardless of whether he has broken the rules or not, or if the rules should be different he has been dragging the BBC into an impartiality row not of their choosing.

His last outburst caused a strike by his fellow BBC presenters. As a manager I would not be happy with him because as well as bringing the BBC into disrepute (a fight they don't want) the strike made the management look weak and powerless.

In fact GL's latest outburst was followed up with an attack on Grant Shapps "to go read the impartiality rules" is a provocative "sack me if you dare" to the BBC.

My guess is that GL is becoming toxic and more trouble than he's worth. He may not get sacked but it wouldn't surprise me if he is told his contract won't be renewed whenever that is.

I suspect that the new Chairman has decided that GL is not a hill worth dying on.


I read the responses given by Shah to questions thrown at him. This wasn’t a prepared statement. His remarks were about the criticism of Shapps and were suggesting that the guidelines need clarification.

No big deal.

 


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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 14 Dec 23 9.09am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I read the responses given by Shah to questions thrown at him. This wasn’t a prepared statement. His remarks were about the criticism of Shapps and were suggesting that the guidelines need clarification.

No big deal.

Hmm we will see next time Mr Lineker's contract is up.

Like I said some people end up being more trouble than they are worth so at some point it doesn't matter if they have or haven't broken the rules.

I really do think Lineker is walking a tightrope and thumbing his nose at the BBC.

If you are going to pick a fight with the government then that is for the senior management, politically it is like a junior minister creating a major scandal for the Prime Minster over an issue he wants to avoid.

 


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The Dolphin Flag 14 Dec 23 1.12pm

Mr Lineker will not be presenting MoD next season would be my bet.
There was a clue a few weeks ago that Jermaine Jenas will be the man.
As long as they get rid of Wright and Shearer and promote Danny Murphy, Martin Keown, Dion Dublin etc. then the world will be a better place.
I suspect though that the BBC will want a female in the team and not long after that we will all stop watching.

 

steeleye20 Flag Croydon 14 Dec 23 1.52pm

MOTD is a turgid bore it passed its sell-by-date years ago.

It makes the National Anthem look trendy.

Against Palace, Gary would just stand in the right place it worked every time.

He should try something journalism.

Saint and Greavsie was the best football show, so they got rid of it.

 

PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 14 Dec 23 1.54pm

Originally posted by The Dolphin

I suspect though that the BBC will want a female in the team and not long after that we will all stop watching.

Alex Scott......female AND mixed-ethnic AND LGBT.....a PC three out of three. Stronger Sith Lord credentials than the unctuous Mr Linekar.

if she starts preaching about Climate Change then the BBC will achieve a singularity and Overdrive into the next dimension.

 


Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

Teddy Eagle Flag 14 Dec 23 2.03pm

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

Alex Scott......female AND mixed-ethnic AND LGBT.....a PC three out of three. Stronger Sith Lord credentials than the unctuous Mr Linekar.

if she starts preaching about Climate Change then the BBC will achieve a singularity and Overdrive into the next dimension.

She could present it with Greta Thunberg, RuPaul and Owen Jones as pundits.

 

Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 14 Dec 23 2.08pm

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

Alex Scott......female AND mixed-ethnic AND LGBT.....a PC three out of three. Stronger Sith Lord credentials than the unctuous Mr Linekar.

if she starts preaching about Climate Change then the BBC will achieve a singularity and Overdrive into the next dimension.

She could always demand people start referring to her as 'Alexander' Scott too...

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

Midlands Eagle Flag 14 Dec 23 3.08pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

MOTD is a turgid bore it passed its sell-by-date years ago.

A friend came to stay and Question of Sport was on the TV. Blimey he said that passed it's sell by date years ago. That was 30 years ago

 

Midlands Eagle Flag 14 Dec 23 3.10pm

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio


Alex Scott......female AND mixed-ethnic AND LGBT

I couldn't care less whether she is a black rug muncher or anything else but what I do find very aggravating is her mangling of the English language

 

Midlands Eagle Flag 16 Dec 23 7.16am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle


A friend came to stay and Question of Sport was on the TV. Blimey he said that passed it's sell by date years ago. That was 30 years ago

Someone from the BBC must have been reading this thread as it was announced today that the show has been put to one side

 

Teddy Eagle Flag 16 Dec 23 7.48am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Someone from the BBC must have been reading this thread as it was announced today that the show has been put to one side

Quiz Ball was better. There's one of them on YouTube (Arsenal v. Forest). Because footballers of the time hadn't had any media training each team had a celebrity guest to help them along, in this case Jimmy Young and Ted Moult.
At the time it didn't seem odd to see a footballer smoking a pipe on a quiz show.

 

Eaglecoops Flag CR3 16 Dec 23 9.39am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Someone from the BBC must have been reading this thread as it was announced today that the show has been put to one side

After 53 years, 50 of which were highly successful, they thought they would add their progressive touch. That worked well for them, as they lost the majority of their viewers. Well done the BBC, again.

 

Badger11 Flag Beckenham 16 Dec 23 12.40pm

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

After 53 years, 50 of which were highly successful, they thought they would add their progressive touch. That worked well for them, as they lost the majority of their viewers. Well done the BBC, again.

I think the last time I saw this show David Vine or Coleman was the Chairman.

My guess is that they decided to change the format because the numbers were going down. In hindsight I think it was a mistake to broaden the show to include non sports people.

My guess is that it then just became yet another celebrity show full of mates and friends of the BBC. There are plenty of those shows around on all channels so QOS lost it's unique appeal.

That said it had a good run and for a change the BBC has simply cancelled a show due to poor viewing figures. This is standard in the industry with the exception being the Beeb where it always seems to be a major issue.

Perhaps this is the new reality shows that are a success will live whilst those that are not will die the same the rest of the world over.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 16 Dec 23 12.45pm

On a Question of Sport.....I stopped watching when Sue 'sob, Cliff won't marry me' Barker took over presenting....that's a long time ago.

But it was never the show it was back in the Bill Beaumont and Emlyn Hughes days.

Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Dec 2023 12.46pm)

 


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PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 16 Dec 23 12.50pm

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

After 53 years, 50 of which were highly successful, they thought they would add their progressive touch. That worked well for them, as they lost the majority of their viewers. Well done the BBC, again.

i am hoping 'Woke-iversity Challenge' will commit Hara-Kiri.

Its getting very close with all the impossible questions. Asking about the first man to get pregnant, first woman to beat Mike Tyson and the effect of Climate change on the rainbow flags of Brighton.

So many questions on the Atlantic Slave Trade. And yet so few on the 'White Slave' trade. I wonder why that is ?

Edited by PalazioVecchio (16 Dec 2023 1.40pm)

 


Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

Eaglecoops Flag CR3 19 Dec 23 3.02pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

On a Question of Sport.....I stopped watching when Sue 'sob, Cliff won't marry me' Barker took over presenting....that's a long time ago.

But it was never the show it was back in the Bill Beaumont and Emlyn Hughes days.

Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Dec 2023 12.46pm)

I think viewing figures went down during this time more because of the viewing time than anything else and whilst I agree she was not Coleman or Vine, she remained streets ahead of the more recent attempt and was accordingly more successful in attracting viewers.

With the right people this could still be a successful programme, but the BBC appear incapable of sticking with a formula that works as they don’t tick enough of their boxes.

 

Badger11 Flag Beckenham 19 Dec 23 3.59pm

Sports Personality of the Year on tonight.

I haven't watched it in decades but I've seen the candidates, hardly inspiring. I guess it's been a poor year.

It's an expensive show to put on and I wonder why the BBC persists. The Beeb has more or less given up on competitive sport so it's an anachronism to celebrate something the BBC no longer supports.

It would make more sense for Sky to host it, yes I know it's The BBC SPOTY but hey ho.

I shall be watching one of the streaming services.

 


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The Dolphin Flag 19 Dec 23 4.18pm

I will not be watching.
It is not what it once was and leftie Lineker will host with Alex can't say ing Scott - just awful.
The woman footballer will win and the whole thing will be a joke.
As to Q of S - apparently figures fell from over 4m to 750,000 after Sue Barker left.
Useless BBC thinking that they can tinker with a great programme and ruin it but blame it on anything but the real reason.
Absolute tw***s!

Edited by The Dolphin (19 Dec 2023 4.19pm)

 

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