People will invent, and promote, a "theory" whenever a gap in the market can be exploited. That's how conspiracy theories emerge and grow. People write books, and make videos, to earn money.

That people also forget, or try to convince others to forget, that every aspect of society demands that people are required to lead, manage and direct it, doesn't mean that those that do so, do it in a co-ordinated way designed to benefit themselves and not the people as a whole. Our leaders, managers and directors may earn more than us, as do those who invest in them, but there is simply no common thread which ties them all together.

So whilst "elite theory" might be a convenient excuse for the disenchanted to use when seeking a dump all their perceived ills, it doesn't withstand too much examination.

We need leaders and managers. We always have, and we always will. They can be turfed out and replaced. Who by? Us of course. We will get new ones, but they can go too, if they don't suit.

Elites don't rule. We rule them.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Well, there were 3 options:

1) try to escape down the humanitarian corridor and hope the Russians chose not to shell them as they did with others on multiple occasions

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2) head for the massive nuclear shelter purpose-built to give the populace of Mariupol shelter from bombing

3) go to the Winchester, have a nice cold pint and wait for all this to blow over

No, it's you and your kind who are the disenchanted and jumping on this conspiracy theory to rationalise their biases.

I am fully aware that similar "theories" have existed before. That's true of almost every theory, if you look hard enough and are prepared to stretch understanding far enough.

Intellectuals, and groups of intellectuals holding similar ideas, doesn't mean anything except they all hold similar world views. It most certainly doesn't mean they are right. They are just attributing motivations where none exist. If people collectively start from the wrong place, it's likely they'll all end up together. In another wrong place.

There are many intellectuals who believe in the principles of socialism, collectivism and communism. I doubt though that fact would convince you they are right.

You can always convince me otherwise.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Oh I see, all those intellectuals were writing 'conspiracy theories' then, even when most of them were part of the very elites they were writing about.

Yeah ok Wisbech....sure whatever you say.

No one could convince you of anything, you've never been here for good faith debates.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Put that as your footer. Actually you should have t-shirts printed.

COYP

My goodness you've got it bad haven't you. I should think you have one hell of a crick in your neck, but they definitely are out to get you

So, back to Mariupol. Why should the civilians not have been there and where should they have been when those lovely Russians came to visit?

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Edited by Mapletree (09 May 2022 2.17pm)