It has shaken politics to the core and revealed the fault lines that divide our country. That these are now being taken seriously is the benefit. What we mustn't do is throw the baby out with the bathwater. I am convinced that many, if not actually most, of those who voted to leave did so without fully understanding the consequences and primarily because of a desire to "stop" immigration and to "take back" control. If they had known the consequences and that these desires were never going to be fulfilled in the way they imagined then I doubt if they would have voted the way they did. This was very badly handled by the Cameron government but we now need the parliament, as a whole, to grow some balls and act together to rescue us from a mess that most can see and which is completely avoidable. I think Mrs May probably can see this, as can the bulk of the Labour MPs. Orchestrating the moves toward it won't be easy. UKIP have no power in parliament and seem to be self destructing anyway, thank goodness, so isolating the dinosaurs on the right wing of the Tory party the only real problem. By the way, I am not a Labour voter and have no time at all for Corbyn, whose attitude is of no use to this situation at all.

Edited by Wisbech Eagle (19 Oct 2016 9.44am)

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Corbyn hasn't argued for another referendum has he? Source if so please. Can you remind everybody of Corbyn's Labour Party manifesto? I don't think they've released one. They've published some policies that point to a more equitable, fairer society. What policies do you think will bring the country to wrack and ruin?

You didn't mention your thoughts on lib dem and tory remainers. Is it all going swimmingly in the Tory ranks?

Is this was the case then A) we, the public should never have been put in the position of power that we were in making the choice and B) its the fault of all politicians, letting it get to this stage.

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I didn't say that Corbyn has called for another referendum, in fact he has said we should respect the peoples' decision.
Corbyn released a list of 10 key policies. Along with various Socialist Father Christmas type promises of solving the housing crisis overnight and shoveling yet more billions into the bottomless pit of the NHS, he wants to nationalise the railways and buses, dismantle our defence capability, give free rein to the unions and have no limits on immigration.
To fund it all he will somehow 'grow the economy' and increase 'progressive' income tax to 'shrink wealth inequality'.
What is also significant of course is (as I have alluded to before) that many of his close associates are even further to the left than him, one an actual Communist Party member and apologist for North Korea - he is tipped as the next Labour Party General Secretary.
Do you think international businesses, stock market investors and other creators of wealth would want to operate under such an old style socialist regime?

Edited by carlonoil (19 Oct 2016 10.55am)

Very eloquently put, and absolutely spot on.

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If I polled my friends about an important life decision and it came out 52%/48% I'm not sure it would hold any weight on my ultimate decision.

Be interesting to know what the reaction would have been if it were the same margin the other way.

Ha, agreed. To be fair, and similar to Brexit, I'd do the total opposite of what the dickheads recommended, the dickheads.

In an ADVISORY referendum the government is asking for your opinion that is why the question is 'SHOULD' the country leave or stay? You are advising the government of your opinion that is all in this case.

The govt is not bound to put this into law unlike the previous referendum on the voting system where people voted for no change this was binding on the govt.

Isn't it the case here that the government has no expertise on the EU - dodgy Dave threatening us instead?

Referendums YUK I'm getting a cup of tea.

I should elaborate on my comment. What I mean is, I think if the public were asked again there'd be a swing towards "Remain" now, but not because we know anything we didn't know before. Just that Project Fear now has the handy ammunition of the economical fallout from the original vote which may or may not be genuinely reflective of the resultant post-Brexit economy.

Then why did you write Many people clamouring for another referendum are also supporters of the Corbyn led Labour Party.

To me it seems you are equating the two even though they have opposite opinions. What was your point in saying 'Corbyn led'?

Trying to alleviate the housing crisis, what an evil left wing b******. Never mind that he would invest in housebuilding programmes that used builders and services from the communities in which the houses are to be built along with incentives and help for small businesses and entrepreneurs in the same communities to foster job creation and growth = more tax pennies.

Polls have shown that that a significant majority of people in the UK want to see transport services renationalised. Pinko c***s the lot of 'em eh?

Save the national health service rather than running it down in order to persuade the public it's better to hand over the health service to his mates (who live abroad eh Mr Branson) in the private sector and make it a for profit organisation rather than a public service. How f***ing dare he!

Dismantle our defence capability - I'll give you the fact that trident is a top issue that divides opinion, but has Corbyn actually said he will cut the defence budget or has he said the money would be used elsewhere within the auspices of the defence department.

Repealing the trades unions act giving back a bit of power to the unions such as facilitation time (which actually saves a heap of cash) and allowing workers to have a say in what workplaces should be like. hardly free rein - you are using exaggerated, emotive language I feel.

The last labour government had 47 months of continued growth. Can you explain how the current lot (who have created more levels of debt than every Labour government combined btw) are growing the economy?

What a b****** again for wanting to reduce wealth inequality. What sort of a nasty s*** would want to do that?

I know you haven't actually called Corbyn a communist, but to the left of him is an actual communist party member'. Quick run for the hills, women and children first, someone on the left has very left wing views. There are others on the left that are more what I'd term democratic socialist. How shocking it is to have such a wide range of ideas and ideologies to share within the largest member lead political party in Europe.

Where did you hear/read that a Corbyn government would be an old style socialist regime? What do you mean by the term? Or are you just using emotio-semantic twaddle again.

Edited by nickgusset (19 Oct 2016 7.09pm)