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When will they change their gun laws? London has its issues but America is so much worse.
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Originally posted by Ouzo Dan
I believe Trump pushed through stricter laws regarding background checks on new rifle purchases six months ago although I have no clue if this has been acted upon or not. Plenty of countries have similar gun laws to the states, the USA needs to fix its mental health problems not its gun laws. No he didn’t. He said he supported control measures when asked, but then said he didn’t and would veto any. Two bipartisan bills passed the House but are blocked in the Senate as Trump has said he will veto them. In what other countries can one walk into a supermarket and buy a semi-automatic pistol or an assault rifle. Or, go to a gun show (or private party sale) and purchase an assault rifle without a background check or ID?
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This isn't going away and it's only going to get worse.
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There's a whiff of whataboutery in the air.
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
We need to remember this the next time Trump lashes out at Khan about London's knife crime. Some thoughts. A Muslim shooter is thought to be a terrorist and 1.8 billion people are implicated in their crime. A black skinned shooter is normally thought to be a gang member. A professional shooter is thought to be a hero. A white skinned shooter is thought to be a mentally ill lone wolf. This is all just politics. Reality is reality. Spin is spin. Was ISIS a figment of someone's imagination? How many gun crimes involving Black people were gang related?
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Originally posted by NickinOX
No he didn’t. He said he supported control measures when asked, but then said he didn’t and would veto any. Two bipartisan bills passed the House but are blocked in the Senate as Trump has said he will veto them. In what other countries can one walk into a supermarket and buy a semi-automatic pistol or an assault rifle. Or, go to a gun show (or private party sale) and purchase an assault rifle without a background check or ID? Like I say its been a while since I've paid attention to us law. I also said similar laws, not identical. Take a look on Wikipedia for a breakdown/be a pedant. I'm keen on a fabarms stf12 myself although will probably end up with a hunting rifle as I want nothing to do with the factory farmed meat you get in supermarkets. Also the AR in AR15 doesn't mean Assault Rifle it means Armalite (the company that owns the patent) Edited by Ouzo Dan (04 Aug 2019 4.37pm)
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Originally posted by gazzerp
Figuring-out how to accomplish this, I'm afraid, is beyond my intellect... It can't be accomplished peacefully.....when the democrats get in power they will probably try to dismantle the system bit by bit.....but it's not going to be pretty that's for sure.
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
This is all just politics. Reality is reality. Spin is spin. Was ISIS a figment of someone's imagination? How many gun crimes involving Black people were gang related? Like everything it was until it wasn't. Just like this guy taking people out. Idea turned reality. I have little doubt that the messaging and language from the top has encouraged and been the impetus for some of these events, but ultimately there's not much anyone can do about that and it's not as if any one factor or change will stop such mass shootings. Just like the gun situation really. With all the will in the world there are hundreds of millions of guns in the US and whole industries and organisations designed to ensure that doesn't change in any meaningless way. On one hand mass shootings create a call for action on guns, in another they desensitize, normalise, and act as a motivator for copycat types to get their racist or jihadist manifesto out there depending on what shade of d!ckhead is doing the shooting.
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
We need to remember this the next time Trump lashes out at Khan about London's knife crime. Some thoughts. A Muslim shooter is thought to be a terrorist and 1.8 billion people are implicated in their crime. A black skinned shooter is normally thought to be a gang member. A professional shooter is thought to be a hero. A white skinned shooter is thought to be a mentally ill lone wolf. You really can be a silly individual wissy.
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There's parts of America where betting and drinking is banned but guns are not.
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Originally posted by Ouzo Dan
Like I say its been a while since I've paid attention to us law. I also said similar laws, not identical. Take a look on Wikipedia for a breakdown/be a pedant. I'm keen on a fabarms stf12 myself although will probably end up with a hunting rifle as I want nothing to do with the factory farmed meat you get in supermarkets. Also the AR in AR15 doesn't mean Assault Rifle it means Armalite (the company that owns the patent) Edited by Ouzo Dan (04 Aug 2019 4.37pm) Who said AR means assault rifle? Stop deflecting. I know perfectly well what an AR is. And when I talk about assault rifle I mean just that, not simply an AR15; AK47; AR10; FN FAL; FN SCAR, etc. And yes, I’ve owned one and enjoy shooting. You claimed other countries have similar laws. Where can one buy an assault rifle in a supermarket? Where else can one legally buy firearms without showing any ID or having to undergo a background check? You’ve not answered that. It is not simply whether one can own guns elsewhere, or carry them around, but the means by which said ownership is regulated.
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Originally posted by corkery
There's parts of America where betting and drinking is banned but guns are not. Well, you have to have something to do.
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Originally posted by NickinOX
Who said AR means assault rifle? Stop deflecting. I know perfectly well what an AR is. And when I talk about assault rifle I mean just that, not simply an AR15; AK47; AR10; FN FAL; FN SCAR, etc. And yes, I’ve owned one and enjoy shooting. You claimed other countries have similar laws. Where can one buy an assault rifle in a supermarket? Where else can one legally buy firearms without showing any ID or having to undergo a background check? You’ve not answered that. It is not simply whether one can own guns elsewhere, or carry them around, but the means by which said ownership is regulated.
I'm really scratching my head as to what more I can do with you, I've offered up examples of countries where you can purchase tactical rifles/shotguns relatively easily, I've explained the similarities in concealed carry laws. I've never said you can walk into a Walmart equivalent in Central Eastern Europe & walk out with a gun like you can in the states. There's little point in discussing banning firearms in the states as it won't happen.
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Originally posted by corkery
There's parts of America where betting and drinking is banned but guns are not. Semi automatic but sober
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Originally posted by dollardays
Semi automatic but sober Middle aged sex life.
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
Middle aged sex life.
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