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Originally posted by Cucking Funt
I find myself in the unfamiliar position of agreeing with you 100%. I know. Maybe he’s had a moment of clarity and given up crystal Meth.
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Originally posted by Matov
Never felt so flat with regards to an election before. Especially one with so much at stake with regards to not only Brexit but our collective faith in the democratic process. Yes, I want the Tories to win but solely because I believe they are the only option that will allow us to exit the EU. How meaningful that exit will be, I am not sure and have no real faith in Johnson to do anything else other than what is good for Johnson but I guess the same could be said for all of them. Once there is one less star on that s***ty flag, I reckon I might turn my back on all this political malarkey. A waste of energy and time. It’s close to winter, days are short, the most boring time of year is coming, Christmas, and the most disingenuous politicians are desperate for votes, or are they, and are many people listening? 3 GE’s in 4 years isn’t it and 3 elections this year. The public are like an adolescent after his 5th attempted w@nk. Just get us out so we can begin the long road to redefining OUR country after losing that autonomy we supposedly shouldn’t have.
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Originally posted by Willo
People are totally confused about their policy. We hear about them going to get this wonderful new deal with the EU which they will put to a confirmatory referendum but then vote against their deal !!! And we hear about their deal is going to include staying in the 'Customs Union' and 'Single Market' but this is in effect remaining in the EU.So the confirmatory referendum will ask "Remain or Remain" !!!! Furthermore any deal/referendum will be in about SIX months !! Dither and delay.
If you keep repeating that enough it might come true - seems to be the very overt Tory strategy at the moment. Also funny to hear people who no doubt supported Boris’ leadership campaign on the premise that he was going to get us a better deal mock the idea now... don’t get me wrong, it was always a ridiculous claim that this magical better deal existed, but the hypocrisy is pathetic.
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
If you keep repeating that enough it might come true - seems to be the very overt Tory strategy at the moment. Also funny to hear people who no doubt supported Boris’ leadership campaign on the premise that he was going to get us a better deal mock the idea now... don’t get me wrong, it was always a ridiculous claim that this magical better deal existed, but the hypocrisy is pathetic. It would be amusing how readily Tory supporters parrot the obvious untrue soundbites if it wasn’t so scary. And Corbyn supporters are supposed to be the cult.
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Originally posted by DanH
It would be amusing how readily Tory supporters parrot the obvious untrue soundbites if it wasn’t so scary. And Corbyn supporters are supposed to be the cult. The Jeremy Corbyn position on defence is scary in my view.
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
If you keep repeating that enough it might come true - seems to be the very overt Tory strategy at the moment. Also funny to hear people who no doubt supported Boris’ leadership campaign on the premise that he was going to get us a better deal mock the idea now... don’t get me wrong, it was always a ridiculous claim that this magical better deal existed, but the hypocrisy is pathetic. I have already stated that the deal is not Valhalla but it was said that the EU would not re-open the Withdrawal Agreement, nor get rid of the 'Backstop' and the rest as they say is history. Apropos the "Truth" perhaps Labour might wish to hoe this road after their ridiculous claims about the NHS under a Conservative government.
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Labour MPs are beginning to leave Corbyn during an election anyway. Should fill the public with confidence. A completely untrustworthy labour leader may as well step down now. Voters leaving, politicians leaving, but they won’t care. Bunch of scruffs will prefer to complain than do anyway. The polls are favourable to the Conservatives at the moment but I take nothing for granted.Volatility could well play it's part. As Andrew Marr said, if someone asked you what was going to happen in this election, cock an eyebrow, say thank you very much and walk away.
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Labour MPs are beginning to leave Corbyn during an election anyway. Should fill the public with confidence. A completely untrustworthy labour leader may as well step down now. Voters leaving, politicians leaving, but they won’t care. Bunch of scruffs will prefer to complain than do anyway. No, it was Johnson who cleared out 21 Tory MPs. Corbyn has not sacked Watson or any of the labour members who voted with the government. You forgot to call him a marxist. Must be slipping.
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Originally posted by steeleye20
No, it was Johnson who cleared out 21 Tory MPs. Corbyn has not sacked Watson or any of the labour members who voted with the government. You forgot to call him a marxist. Must be slipping. They were not Tory MP's and neither is Johnson. If the Tories were Tories we would have left the EU already but that's not been true for decades. Oh and Corbyn is a Marxist and Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself.
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Originally posted by steeleye20
No, it was Johnson who cleared out 21 Tory MPs. Corbyn has not sacked Watson or any of the labour members who voted with the government. You forgot to call him a marxist. Must be slipping. Did you hear Ian Austin earlier?
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
I know. Maybe he’s had a moment of clarity and given up crystal Meth. Well, a stopped clock and all that...
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
If you keep repeating that enough it might come true - seems to be the very overt Tory strategy at the moment. Also funny to hear people who no doubt supported Boris’ leadership campaign on the premise that he was going to get us a better deal mock the idea now... don’t get me wrong, it was always a ridiculous claim that this magical better deal existed, but the hypocrisy is pathetic. and now Labour are pushing the same promises....
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Originally posted by Willo
The polls are favourable to the Conservatives at the moment but I take nothing for granted.Volatility could well play it's part. As Andrew Marr said, if someone asked you what was going to happen in this election, cock an eyebrow, say thank you very much and walk away. And Johnson isn't promising more spending?
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Originally posted by Jway89
And Johnson isn't promising more spending? There is spending and reckless spending leaving a legacy of debt. On that note, I need to depart to assist with the Conservative campaign!
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Originally posted by Willo
There is spending and reckless spending leaving a legacy of debt. On that note, I need to depart to assist with the Conservative campaign! Excuse my stupidity, but so what. Who does the Government borrow money off? Our debt is 85% of GDP and to be honest I've never known anyone or country sending in bailiffs to collect this debt. Yes there will be increased taxation, but again, so what. I will be hit by it, but it won't really affect my life and everyone else below the increase will remain as is and probably better off as the minimum wage will go up. Where I do see an issue is in increasing corporation tax. I would prefer that to be lowered to almost single digits, but to actually collect it from the monopolistic FANGS as well as closing loopholes.
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