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EddieMac Flag 12 Jul 20 4.42pm

I’m struggling to see where we go from here. It’s either Roy leaves or most of the squad leaves and we won’t have the money to replace all of them.

Benteke, Zaha, Milo, Riedewald, Meyer, Sakho, PVA will all be looking for transfers and the rest of our squad will stay because no one else will sign them at this level.

We are up s***s creek big style.

 
Romford-Eagle Flag Romford 12 Jul 20 4.45pm

PARISH, do your job as chairman and remove this old geezer from his post. And he can take Freedman with him, and as for you Parish, sell the club now or with you we will end up back in the 1st division...

 
Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 12 Jul 20 4.45pm

Originally posted by Plaistow Eagle

All good things come to a natural end - for my money we are at that point with regards Roy..

Yep he’s done brilliantly on a very limited budget.

Let’s be honest given our activity - or lack of it in last seasons summer/winter transfer windows - many of us were fearing the worst for this season - except Willo of course he was simply seeing/hoping his prediction may come good/true at last..!

But despite all that and having no capable/adequate replacement for AWB, Zaha having a very average season, untold injuries in central defense and no goal scoring forward - Roy and Ray have defied the odds and kept us up comfortably.

But I do think now is the time for change - Personally and no -one has mentioned him I’d take a look at Thomas Frank, if Brentford don’t go up - worked miracles on a very limited budget at a hitherto now unfashionable club.

COYP

I readily admit to being a joyless old chap who has predicted relegation with some regularity but I am not convinced I predicted relegation in respect of the current season!

Regards Thomas Frank, I have recognised his achievements at Brentford and the 'Easy on the eye' football they play and he as come in to my thinking.The Brentford recruitment setup is worthy of plaudits.

Frank didn't get off to the best of starts lasts season when he succeeded Dean Smith,only winning 1 of his first 10 games.

Edited by Willo (12 Jul 2020 4.46pm)

 
Putitout Flag Oxford 12 Jul 20 5.13pm

Recent performances would suggest the bubble has burst . Without passion and belief Palace , are not good enough to stay in this league let alone make progress. That applies to a number of clubs, but it’s Palace ,playing with little to no desire, that is our concern.
In most clubs ,it would be end of road for either manager ,or several players ,one or the other. With Palaces finances Where they seem to be I wouldn’t bank on either. Maybe they think they can pick it up when the new season comes . Which is very worrying as a bad finish of this sort usually leads to no change in the new season. I have a feeling Roy’s pride is where it should be. He will want to get things going again. The players! Who knows.

 
iheartcpfc Flag SE25 12 Jul 20 5.20pm

It has to happen tonight. This crossed a line, he cannot be allowed to subject us to his drivel for a minute longer. Use the 3 games as a chance for a new man to start to work with the squad and work out which of our overpaid old frauds need binning (good luck!). Just pull the trigger

tbh I've not liked him since last season but results meant I had to accept him. Now though, it's all coming apart. Roy Out.

 
Gribbo Flag Bromley 12 Jul 20 5.26pm

Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different outcome. Yes, time to go.

Could have played the kids for the last 5 games, got the same outcome but may have had a better idea ahead of next season- opportunity lost.

 
EddieMac Flag 12 Jul 20 5.29pm

The club are stuck in a tough position now,. Sack him now and have to fund a new manager and lots of signings

or keep him and risk losing any player with a decent re sale values and then have to replace all of them.

In my opinion Roy will be sacked soon.

 
Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 12 Jul 20 5.35pm

Originally posted by EddieMac

The club are stuck in a tough position now,. Sack him now and have to fund a new manager and lots of signings

or keep him and risk losing any player with a decent re sale values and then have to replace all of them.

In my opinion Roy will be sacked soon.

I will be very surprised if this occurs.
His sole objective is to keep us in the PL and he has done so for three seasons with hardly any money to spend.

He has been offered and accepted an extension to his contract and he is seen as the person to once again preserve our place in the PL given what he has achieved in the circumstances.

 
ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 12 Jul 20 5.35pm

Originally posted by EddieMac

The club are stuck in a tough position now,. Sack him now and have to fund a new manager and lots of signings

or keep him and risk losing any player with a decent re sale values and then have to replace all of them.

In my opinion Roy will be sacked soon.

I don't think we'll sack him. Rather, we will give him the opportunity to leave with dignity. He's done a decent job but we need different ideas. Direct football would suit us better, as we obviously can't pass. However, we also can't run so that's an issue too. Not sure why we wear lead boots whilst the other teams have moved onto predators.

 

Red and Blue Army!
EddieMac Flag 12 Jul 20 6.01pm

Originally posted by Willo

I will be very surprised if this occurs.
His sole objective is to keep us in the PL and he has done so for three seasons with hardly any money to spend.

He has been offered and accepted an extension to his contract and he is seen as the person to once again preserve our place in the PL given what he has achieved in the circumstances.

But we have never performed like we have today. Luka pushing Grealish like a 12 year old. Benteke sent off after the game. He has lost the dressing room and that will make the club act.

 
BlueJay Flag UK 12 Jul 20 6.05pm

It's a leap into the unknown but I lean more and more towards yes. We'll stay up, but another season like this won't do us any favours.

 
Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 12 Jul 20 6.11pm

Originally posted by EddieMac

But we have never performed like we have today. Luka pushing Grealish like a 12 year old. Benteke sent off after the game. He has lost the dressing room and that will make the club act.

I don't have any evidence that he has "Lost the dressing room".

It was a dire, pathetic performance but perhaps what should be factored in is that with the frequency of games, this has caught up with our ageing squad.Privately I raised my concerns about this before the season re-started.

 
davehuggins Flag 12 Jul 20 6.12pm

We are in dire need of a revamp of this ageing squad. I was in the keep RH camp but I am beginning to believe we need change or this will only get worse. I think RH has done a wonderful job but it's time to look forward to the longer-term future. We need IMO a younger manager with ideas of how to progress as with Wolves and Sheff Utd as examples. Thanks Roy but it could be time now.

 
Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 12 Jul 20 6.17pm

Originally posted by davehuggins

We are in dire need of a revamp of this ageing squad. I was in the keep RH camp but I am beginning to believe we need change or this will only get worse. I think RH has done a wonderful job but it's time to look forward to the longer-term future. We need IMO a younger manager with ideas of how to progress as with Wolves and Sheff Utd as examples. Thanks Roy but it could be time now.

Wolves, who have spent nigh on £165 Mill since they were promoted back to the PL and Sheff Utd who have spent just over £60 Mill this season.

 
EddieMac Flag 12 Jul 20 6.29pm

Originally posted by Willo

I don't have any evidence that he has "Lost the dressing room".

It was a dire, pathetic performance but perhaps what should be factored in is that with the frequency of games, this has caught up with our ageing squad.Privately I raised my concerns about this before the season re-started.

In my opinion, when players behave like they do today is because they have lost respect and are seriously frustrated.

 
jammieroger Flag ASHFORD KENT 12 Jul 20 6.33pm

Same old story yet again from Roy same team with no desire,so I don't know what game he was watching, try something different Roy stop picking your favourite players if they are well off form,i keep bleating about giving youngsters a chance no worse than what the current players are doing

 
Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards robdave2k Flag 12 Jul 20 6.51pm

I’ve got a bit of a hot water issue - in that it isn’t working. So I’ve decided to follow Roy’s tried and tested approach and adapt it.

1. Hit with hammer.
2. Decide hammer isn’t working.
3. Replace hammer with spare hammer.
4. Hit with hammer.
5. Second hammer doesn’t work: will Look at again tomorrow.
6. Complain the wife hasn’t given me enough money for the right tools for the job.
7. Wife gives me £50.
8. Study tools needed.
9. Decide to buy a hammer.
10. Decide new hammer won’t work, so employ use of old hammer.

Edited by robdave2k (12 Jul 2020 6.52pm)

 
PatrickA Flag London 12 Jul 20 7.19pm

The Hodgson fans said once we were safe he would take the handbrake off and allow more free flowing foootball.
He himself said before the resumption he would have a look at the younger players in these games.
None of this has happened.
Instead we get the same old turgid style against the likes of Burnley and Villa with the same out of form 3 defensive midfield players.
Apparently in 35 games this season we have scored the princely sum of 10 goals in the first halves.
Let that sink in ...10 goals.
Yes, I know the game lasts 90 + minutes but I’d does show a statement of intent.
He won’t be sacked, but I won’t object if he resigns.

 
jeeagles Flag 12 Jul 20 7.45pm

Originally posted by robdave2k

I’ve got a bit of a hot water issue - in that it isn’t working. So I’ve decided to follow Roy’s tried and tested approach and adapt it.

1. Hit with hammer.
2. Decide hammer isn’t working.
3. Replace hammer with spare hammer.
4. Hit with hammer.
5. Second hammer doesn’t work: will Look at again tomorrow.
6. Complain the wife hasn’t given me enough money for the right tools for the job.
7. Wife gives me £50.
8. Study tools needed.
9. Decide to buy a hammer.
10. Decide new hammer won’t work, so employ use of old hammer.

Edited by robdave2k (12 Jul 2020 6.52pm)

I don’t think Roy has ever managed to reach step 2.

 
redshift Flag Toronto 12 Jul 20 8.23pm

Originally posted by robdave2k

I’ve got a bit of a hot water issue - in that it isn’t working. So I’ve decided to follow Roy’s tried and tested approach and adapt it.

1. Hit with hammer.
2. Decide hammer isn’t working.
3. Replace hammer with spare hammer.
4. Hit with hammer.
5. Second hammer doesn’t work: will Look at again tomorrow.
6. Complain the wife hasn’t given me enough money for the right tools for the job.
7. Wife gives me £50.
8. Study tools needed.
9. Decide to buy a hammer.
10. Decide new hammer won’t work, so employ use of old hammer.

Edited by robdave2k (12 Jul 2020 6.52pm)

Brutal but all too true.
There is one extra step...say:
6A. Borrow hammer from neighbour then lend it to another neighbour without using it.

 

Success will lie to you but failure always tells you the truth.
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