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 Rudi Hedman  Caterham 11 Jun 17 7.54pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Perhaps the economics expert can explain how the Wall Street Crash or Black Wednesday occurred in his world of economic certainty. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (11 Jun 2017 7.24pm) What you have hit on here, inadvertently or not, I'm not sure, is the need to have room to manoeuvre with monetary policy and Keynesian policy after such economic crises. This was a major point for trying to conserve what manoeuvrability we had left in 2010, versus add Balls and Cambridge who both wanted to spend out of the global situation right there and then. I felt they were wrong then because the risk was big. I think they're more right now but who really knows? I dislike both extremes and would ideally prefer the balanced and responsible Keynesian economics but both parties are poles apart making Leicester winning the premier league again more likely.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 11 Jun 17 7.59pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Exactly. You have nailed it. Doesn't make it wise. And that's no slant on your mother. We've all followed the crowd in our lives and revised it later
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 11 Jun 17 8.06pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
The article which had the poll I quoted says that a further swing of 1.98% would be enough for a very small majority. That's quite achievable IMO . This is true but she won't be leading the Tories into another election. It'll be someone with talent, charisma, policies, ability to cross part debate on tv, and not an introverted loaner. Someone like David Davis. Oh and they'll pull their socks up next time. Last time was pathetic. It won't be if they get a leader rather than an operations manager which she is.
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Kermit8  Hevon 11 Jun 17 8.07pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Doesn't make it wise. And that's no slant on your mother. We've all followed the crowd in our lives and revised it later Most people are sheep. Not an insult just a fact of life.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 11 Jun 17 8.13pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
It is like that but its more because anyone can see from the manifesto and his personality that Jeremy is nothing like the media portray him. I respect his consistency and sincerity, but it's the range and depth of his proposals that scare me. If we could give him a medium term trial with review I'd be all for it, but something just tells me it'll go wrong in a big way. I'll have to read up on new Keynesian economics for inspiration because I'm not getting it from 'you can all have this shovel of money.' Blair tried that with welfare. How did that go?
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 Hrolf The Ganger 11 Jun 17 8.19pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
What you have hit on here, inadvertently or not, I'm not sure, is the need to have room to manoeuvre with monetary policy and Keynesian policy after such economic crises. This was a major point for trying to conserve what manoeuvrability we had left in 2010, versus add Balls and Cambridge who both wanted to spend out of the global situation right there and then. I felt they were wrong then because the risk was big. I think they're more right now but who really knows? I dislike both extremes and would ideally prefer the balanced and responsible Keynesian economics but both parties are poles apart making Leicester winning the premier league again more likely. Thanks for that vote of confidence. You don't need a degree in economics to know bulls*** when you see it.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 11 Jun 17 8.25pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
42% of the voters are Communists according to your logic, warped as it is as always. Maybe, just maybe, the voters are starting to believe that a Corbyn-led administration will look after Britain's interests a helluvalot more that the greedy capitalists, corporate lackeys, media prostitutes the Tory party are and have been for a long time now. Nearly all the social ills you see today you can trace back to the eighties and the social backwardness of that government and the resulting increasing of those problems which are still very evident now. Vote Tory and that is another nail in Britain's coffin. I didn't say that. Perhaps that was a figment of your warped imagination. You talk like an amnesiac who can't remember previous Labour governments.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 11 Jun 17 8.30pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Thanks for that vote of confidence. You don't need a degree in economics to know bulls*** when you see it. You mentioned how they occurred. But I'm apologising. Trying to be a better person, which is not easy at times. If all economists were so right in their predictions and views they'd be nailing the financial markets on a tablet in the sun on a private island.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 11 Jun 17 8.31pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I didn't say that. Perhaps that was a figment of your warped imagination. You talk like an amnesiac who can't remember previous Labour governments. They're all into the insults all these people who said under Corbyn, the Labour vote will collapse. H did indeed allude (before Friday anyway)that anyone who votes labour is a commie.
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 11 Jun 17 8.32pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
The article which had the poll I quoted says that a further swing of 1.98% would be enough for a very small majority. That's quite achievable IMO . I think all these projections do not take into account that the Tories will not run such a bad campaign again, it was probably the worst in UK electoral history, it made Michael Foot's efforts look slick.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 11 Jun 17 8.40pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
They're all into the insults all these people who said under Corbyn, the Labour vote will collapse. H did indeed allude (before Friday anyway)that anyone who votes labour is a commie. It would be inaccurate to say that everyone who voted Labour was a Communist. Deluded and or naive but not Communists. I can forgive the young to a degree. They might not be old enough to know how s*** Labour are in government.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 11 Jun 17 8.48pm |
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'p*****g in the wind'. What the tories are running scared of is another election. They fear the public mood has changed and its not just a blip.
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| CambridgeEagle Sydenham 11 Jun 17 8.51pm |
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Originally posted by Cucking Funt
Recent experience should tell us that polls (other than exit polls) don't tell us sh*t. Yougov poll predicted hung parliament with Tories largest party... Edited by CambridgeEagle (12 Jun 2017 3.31am)
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| Mr_Gristle In the land of Whelk Eaters 11 Jun 17 8.51pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Perhaps not, but they are very much aware of what a Tory government is like and who can blame them for wanting a change?
Well I think Simon's head is large; always involved in espionage. (Name that tune) |
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| Mr_Gristle In the land of Whelk Eaters 11 Jun 17 8.55pm |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
I think all these projections do not take into account that the Tories will not run such a bad campaign again, it was probably the worst in UK electoral history, it made Michael Foot's efforts look slick. Fair enough, but I'd be surprised if the press could get away with running such a hatchet job on Corbyn again without driving even more voters into his arms. No wonder they tried so hard to rubbish him and his message from day one.
Well I think Simon's head is large; always involved in espionage. (Name that tune) |
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| Hrolf The Ganger 11 Jun 17 8.58pm |
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Originally posted by Mr_Gristle
Perhaps not, but they are very much aware of what a Tory government is like and who can blame them for wanting a change? A change for the worse is in no one's interests. Poor Canterbury. They are now stuck with a Labour MP while all the students can just go home. That rule really needs to change.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 11 Jun 17 8.59pm |
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Originally posted by CambridgeEagle
Yougov poll predicted being parliament with Tories largest party... And that was after the results came in ......
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croydon proud  Any european country i fancy! 11 Jun 17 9.08pm |
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Originally posted by Mr_Gristle
Perhaps not, but they are very much aware of what a Tory government is like and who can blame them for wanting a change? who indeed!
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 11 Jun 17 9.20pm |
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Originally posted by Mr_Gristle
Fair enough, but I'd be surprised if the press could get away with running such a hatchet job on Corbyn again without driving even more voters into his arms. No wonder they tried so hard to rubbish him and his message from day one. Didn't Blair and 95% of the Labour Party do the same? When does Blair break his silence? For once I want to hear.
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