Good point Willo. It's nearly the transfer window, and it's not time to change the manager. We need someone who knows the squad and it's weaknesses, and can build a younger squad. RH has vast experience. Last year though. He should move upstairs or leave with dignity after next season

Edited by doombear (12 Jul 2020 9.43pm)

Any manager is only six games from his job being in question and Roy is no different. However, I don't see anyone plausible actually wanting the job other than someone after a quick payday.

The age of the squad and the fact that the owners wanted out even before we faced global economic slump are hardly a secret.

Thought the players looked tired and get the frustrations around Roy's reluctance to freshen things up but when the likes of Meyer and Riedewald are continually thrown up as main points of criticism it doesn't do much to strengthen the arguments against him.

Luka has looked particularly off the pace and it was notable McCarthy played instead of him in the three wins against Newcastle, Brighton and Watford which effectively saved the season.

There are supporters of course in a 'Hissy Fit' about today's dire performance and the dour football we have played this season sending us all into slack-jawed somnolence, however the fact is that Hodgson has kept us up for three seasons with hardly any spending and is trusted to do the same next season.

He has achieved his objectives and been offered an extension of his contract for this reason so any talk of him being jettisoned is without foundation. Even if we lose the next three games which will mean eight consecutive defeats he will remain in situ.

Edited by Willo (12 Jul 2020 11.23pm)

To believe that a manager who loses 8 on the spin is unsackable is very Palace. Anywhere else in the PL he would be gone. You like a good stat Willo who was the last manager to lose 8 or more games on the spin and retain his job?

Yesterday's performance was unacceptable on many levels.

The team selected should have been capable of so much more.

We weren't helped by VAR getting it wrong for Sakho's 'goal ' but seemed to lose our way after that. I also thought the refereeing was substandard.

I think it was one of the lamest performances I've seen since we got promoted. Passing and decision making were awful. Yes, there are a lot of games being crammed in at this time, but it's not an excuse. These experienced players together with the fitness staff should be managing that situation. Where we are of course lacking is having effective game changers on the bench.

Results you sometimes have to take on the chin. So the Chelsea result, while disappointing, at least you can say the overall performance of the team was decent. You couldn't say the same for the performances against Leicester, Burnley and particularly yesterday.

I have staunchly defended Roy on HOL, but this is a results business and we are staring down the barrel of 8 consecutive defeats. And I think that is indefensible.

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It is all down to context and circumstances at the time.
If 8 successive defeats are the fate of a side already struggling and in danger of relegation then there is scant little surprise if the club makes a decision regards the manager.
All dependant on circumstances around these defeats etc etc etc.

Hodgson has once again secured survival for us which is his sole objective.We possess an ageing squad and having to play a series of game in a relative short period of time can take it's toll.Having entrusted Hodgson with an extended contract the Board will not panic if we lose a number of games in these unusual circumstances.

I just think that replacing Hodgson with a younger manager likely to stay with us if we get relegated next season is better now than waiting a season under Hodgson who will not be able to keep us up next season with this aging squad. Get someone in now who can build a younger team / squad who just may keep us up or get us into contention for coming back up if we do go down next season. It’s a risk but I just can’t see Hodgson working his normal miracle next season. Other than the first half v Bournemouth we and Norwich are the worst sides in the prem at this time. We will be in the same position next season as now with Hodgson going and will probably be relegated with a squad that may struggle to survive in the championship? I think Hodgson needs to go now but would love to be proved wrong.

in all honesty if we are going to spend money to improve the squad why let roy do it he will have to retire next year just bite the bullet now I cant watch this s***e anymore. Macca for Macca subs all the time.

The apologists for Hodgson blame Parish and the Americans, the players, Freedman’s scouting.
Where is the accountability of Hodgson?
He is accountable for team selection, motivation, maximising resources and tactics.
The buck stops with him.
He seems to have tricked some people into the view that he has worked wonders keeping us up.
I don’t buy it, and don’t accept any justification for the type of negative football we play against the likes of Burnley and Villa.
Villa are a poor team and had less rest than us prior to yesterday’s game. Yet we looked like the relegation threatened team.
Where are the young players Hodgson promised to look at in the remaining games?
If I know the tactics he’s going to employ and substitutions he’s going to make every game you can be pretty sure the opposing managers do too.
Palace must be one of the easiest teams to defend against and Hodgson NEVER seeks to address this either through tactical changes or other innovations.