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Stirlingsays 30 Dec 18 10.13pm
Originally posted by steve1984 Not when for example, you see evangelical male Christians accosting women outside abortion clinics in the USA it isn't. Why is it ok when it's female Christians doing it? Edited by Stirlingsays (30 Dec 2018 10.13pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

30 Dec 18 10.13pm

Originally posted by steve1984

Not when for example, you see evangelical male Christians accosting women outside abortion clinics in the USA it isn't.

Why is it ok when it's female Christians doing it?

Edited by Stirlingsays (30 Dec 2018 10.13pm)

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steve1984 30 Dec 18 11.51pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays ..while I'd struggle to call Corbyn himself as anti semitic (though who truly knows) First you struggle, then with the next breath you cast doubt. The truth seems to have little if any role to play in your belief system because you're always willing to fall back on innuendo and slander.

steve1984 30 Dec 18 11.51pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

..while I'd struggle to call Corbyn himself as anti semitic (though who truly knows)

First you struggle, then with the next breath you cast doubt.

The truth seems to have little if any role to play in your belief system because you're always willing to fall back on innuendo and slander.

steve1984 30 Dec 18 11.52pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Why is it ok when it's female Christians doing it? Abortion is an issue for women.

steve1984 30 Dec 18 11.52pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Why is it ok when it's female Christians doing it?

Abortion is an issue for women.

steve1984 30 Dec 18 11.56pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Siding with their military opponents through the years is ample evidence. “If you want to make peace, you don't talk to your friends. You talk to your enemies.” Moshe Dayan

steve1984 30 Dec 18 11.56pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Siding with their military opponents through the years is ample evidence.

“If you want to make peace, you don't talk to your friends. You talk to your enemies.”

Moshe Dayan

Hrolf The Ganger 31 Dec 18 12.18pm
Originally posted by steve1984 Abortion is an issue for women. Really? I thought it was for everyone. Or maybe you think that only women are entitled to have an opinion on it.

Hrolf The Ganger

31 Dec 18 12.18pm

Originally posted by steve1984

Abortion is an issue for women.

Really? I thought it was for everyone.

Or maybe you think that only women are entitled to have an opinion on it.

steve1984 31 Dec 18 12.42pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger Or maybe you think that only women are entitled to have an opinion on it. Presumably that was a question? A question that I already answered.

steve1984 31 Dec 18 12.42pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Or maybe you think that only women are entitled to have an opinion on it.

Presumably that was a question?

A question that I already answered.

Stirlingsays 31 Dec 18 2.34pm
Originally posted by steve1984 Abortion is an issue for women. I totally disagree with that. A woman may carry a child but that child isn't exclusively hers, it is fifty fifty. It's an issue for both genders and both have a right to a say on it. Perhaps the bank holding your money should be allowed to dispose of it......or to be more precise the woman who you gave your savings to who then puts it in a joint bank account should be allowed total say over it.....and you have no voice. Edited by Stirlingsays (31 Dec 2018 2.52pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

31 Dec 18 2.34pm

Originally posted by steve1984

Abortion is an issue for women.

I totally disagree with that. A woman may carry a child but that child isn't exclusively hers, it is fifty fifty.

It's an issue for both genders and both have a right to a say on it.

Perhaps the bank holding your money should be allowed to dispose of it......or to be more precise the woman who you gave your savings to who then puts it in a joint bank account should be allowed total say over it.....and you have no voice.

Edited by Stirlingsays (31 Dec 2018 2.52pm)

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steve1984 31 Dec 18 5.09pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Perhaps the bank holding your money should be allowed to dispose of it......or to be more precise the woman who you gave your savings to who then puts it in a joint bank account should be allowed total say over it.....and you have no voice. More tangential melodrama.

steve1984 31 Dec 18 5.09pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

More tangential melodrama.

steve1984 31 Dec 18 5.17pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays I totally disagree with that. A woman may carry a child but that child isn't exclusively hers, it is fifty fifty. Even if parental responsibility could be distilled down to some kind of biological democracy then for a decision you need 50% +1. In the absence of any +1, the woman should always have the final say.

steve1984 31 Dec 18 5.17pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I totally disagree with that. A woman may carry a child but that child isn't exclusively hers, it is fifty fifty.

Even if parental responsibility could be distilled down to some kind of biological democracy then for a decision you need 50% +1.

In the absence of any +1, the woman should always have the final say.

Stirlingsays 31 Dec 18 5.51pm
Originally posted by steve1984 Even if parental responsibility could be distilled down to some kind of biological democracy then for a decision you need 50% +1. In the absence of any +1, the woman should always have the final say. Do you translate this type of thinking to any other strata of life? The fifty fifty percent reality of genetics is a reality. To say men can't demonstrate in objection to having no voice seems particularly draconian to me. They have a right to object to this.....I'm not talking about 'final says'. That's on a far higher level of complexity. Edited by Stirlingsays (31 Dec 2018 5.52pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

31 Dec 18 5.51pm

Originally posted by steve1984

Even if parental responsibility could be distilled down to some kind of biological democracy then for a decision you need 50% +1.

In the absence of any +1, the woman should always have the final say.

Do you translate this type of thinking to any other strata of life?

The fifty fifty percent reality of genetics is a reality. To say men can't demonstrate in objection to having no voice seems particularly draconian to me.

They have a right to object to this.....I'm not talking about 'final says'. That's on a far higher level of complexity.

Edited by Stirlingsays (31 Dec 2018 5.52pm)

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steve1984 31 Dec 18 5.56pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Do you translate this type of thinking to any other strata of life? No. Not that I can think of.

steve1984 31 Dec 18 5.56pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Do you translate this type of thinking to any other strata of life?

No. Not that I can think of.

Stirlingsays 31 Dec 18 6.12pm
Originally posted by steve1984 No. Not that I can think of. Abortion is a very difficult subject. A lot of typos tonight. Edited by Stirlingsays (31 Dec 2018 6.19pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

31 Dec 18 6.12pm

Originally posted by steve1984

No. Not that I can think of.

Abortion is a very difficult subject.

A lot of typos tonight.

Edited by Stirlingsays (31 Dec 2018 6.19pm)

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pefwin Where you have to have an English ... 31 Dec 18 6.15pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Abolition is a very difficult subject. Abolition I would think is very simple. "Everything is air-droppable at least once." "When the going gets tough, the tough call for close air support."

pefwin

Where you have to have an English ... 31 Dec 18 6.15pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Abolition is a very difficult subject.

Abolition I would think is very simple.

"Everything is air-droppable at least once."

"When the going gets tough, the tough call for close air support."

cryrst The garden of England 31 Dec 18 8.36pm
Originally posted by pefwin Abolition I would think is very simple. And dangerous for the women wanting an abortion. It has nothing to do with anyone but the woman involved.

cryrst

The garden of England 31 Dec 18 8.36pm

Originally posted by pefwin

Abolition I would think is very simple.

And dangerous for the women wanting an abortion.
It has nothing to do with anyone but the woman involved.

Stirlingsays 31 Dec 18 9.58pm
Originally posted by cryrst And dangerous for the women wanting an abortion. It has nothing to do with anyone but the woman involved. Do you have any children Cryrst? My view on this altered a bit when we had our boys....had to think about it anew and felt really uncomfortable about the whole thing then. Edited by Stirlingsays (31 Dec 2018 9.59pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

31 Dec 18 9.58pm

Originally posted by cryrst

And dangerous for the women wanting an abortion.
It has nothing to do with anyone but the woman involved.

Do you have any children Cryrst?

My view on this altered a bit when we had our boys....had to think about it anew and felt really uncomfortable about the whole thing then.

Edited by Stirlingsays (31 Dec 2018 9.59pm)

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cryrst The garden of England 31 Dec 18 10.51pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Do you have any children Cryrst? My view on this altered a bit when we had our boys....had to think about it anew and felt really uncomfortable about the whole thing then. Edited by Stirlingsays (31 Dec 2018 9.59pm) 3 kids Why are you uncomfortable. The procedure and choice is for women. Abolishing it would cause many painful deaths by back street clinics.

cryrst

The garden of England 31 Dec 18 10.51pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Do you have any children Cryrst?

My view on this altered a bit when we had our boys....had to think about it anew and felt really uncomfortable about the whole thing then.

Edited by Stirlingsays (31 Dec 2018 9.59pm)

3 kids
Why are you uncomfortable.
The procedure and choice is for women.
Abolishing it would cause many painful deaths by back street clinics.

Penge Eagle Beckenham 16 May 19 9.31pm
'Hamas thanks Jeremy Corbyn for message at pro-Palestinian rally' [Link]

Penge Eagle

Beckenham 16 May 19 9.31pm

'Hamas thanks Jeremy Corbyn for message at pro-Palestinian rally' [Link]

PalazioVecchio south pole 17 May 19 12.11am
Originally posted by steve1984 Even if parental responsibility could be distilled down to some kind of biological democracy then for a decision you need 50% +1. In the absence of any +1, the woman should always have the final say. even if she is a mad woman ? Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

PalazioVecchio

south pole 17 May 19 12.11am

Originally posted by steve1984

Even if parental responsibility could be distilled down to some kind of biological democracy then for a decision you need 50% +1.

In the absence of any +1, the woman should always have the final say.

even if she is a mad woman ?

Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

Maine Eagle USA 17 May 19 2.01am
Originally posted by Penge Eagle 'Hamas thanks Jeremy Corbyn for message at pro-Palestinian rally' [Link] Corbyn has to go, then Labour have a chance to be in government. Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha.

Maine Eagle

USA 17 May 19 2.01am

Originally posted by Penge Eagle

'Hamas thanks Jeremy Corbyn for message at pro-Palestinian rally' [Link]

Corbyn has to go, then Labour have a chance to be in government.

Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha.

Stirlingsays 17 May 19 5.48am
Originally posted by cryrst 3 kids Why are you uncomfortable. The procedure and choice is for women. Abolishing it would cause many painful deaths by back street clinics. Seems to me just an excuse to prefer one form of death over another. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

17 May 19 5.48am

Originally posted by cryrst

3 kids
Why are you uncomfortable.
The procedure and choice is for women.
Abolishing it would cause many painful deaths by back street clinics.

Seems to me just an excuse to prefer one form of death over another.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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