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 Rudi Hedman  Caterham 14 Jun 17 2.40pm |
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Originally posted by CambridgeEagle
It's attitudes like this that will only make people MORE likely to vote for Corbyn and progressive social policies. The economic fundamentals behind such polices are well founded and the policies on offer from Labour are not radical or particularly unusual when compared with OEDC. Your attitude is outdated and characteristic of the negativity, hubris and myopia of the right wing in Britain prior to this election. The policies of consecutive governments have made life more difficult and uncertain for young people and they have a right to vote for a party that offers a more credible and fairer alternative. This is an interesting look at the breakdown of the votes. Given the data on wages released today are further evidence of the failure of the Tory government since 2010 and the problems they have created. These are quite fundamental problems to our economy - despite low unemployment real wages are falling materially. Given the economy is propped up by consumer spending this highlights the structural deficiencies in our economy and throws into greater relief the problems caused by Tory policy on wages and inequality, but also on a lack of investment both from the public sector and from business. If the Tories don't properly abandon their ideological commitment to austerity they will lose big time when the next election comes around. There's already hints she might and I think she probably will. She likes to cherry pick good policies from elsewhere which I think is no bad thing, only pretty much anything apart from badly advised monumental changes in revenue raising comes from other parties. She's like the boss who wants all the praise and the position without the ability. Actually she's not like it, she is it.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 14 Jun 17 2.53pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
There's already hints she might and I think she probably will. She likes to cherry pick good policies from elsewhere which I think is no bad thing, only pretty much anything apart from badly advised monumental changes in revenue raising comes from other parties. She's like the boss who wants all the praise and the position without the ability. Actually she's not like it, she is it. If they do, it'll hurt them, because we've had nearly a decade of austerity measures that have hit sections of the public pretty hard, especially in swing areas. Admitting that the austerity measures were a failure isn't going to go down well with people who have experienced pay freezes and cuts over the that period
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 14 Jun 17 3.07pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
If they do, it'll hurt them, because we've had nearly a decade of austerity measures that have hit sections of the public pretty hard, especially in swing areas. Admitting that the austerity measures were a failure isn't going to go down well with people who have experienced pay freezes and cuts over the that period I agree. That's where good spin comes in with a 'what the electorate are calling for' or 'what's needed for recruiting British workers.' I think they were right then, just not so right now, but Corbyn is worrying for anyone over early 20's. I bet many have parents who aren't even aware of Britain in the '70s.
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| Mapletree Croydon 14 Jun 17 3.17pm |
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Originally posted by susmik
I notice a few others have agreed with me since your post and I say again you need to grow up and see the wood for the trees and as being an embarrassment to m y country at least I live in it and not go bolting to any country that will have me like you have. OK, I just have to bite. You make a sweeping statement with no support. I see no reason to believe the young are any more gullible than the middle aged and the old. I find this blanket statement offensive. I also think it disguises a lack of open-mindedness. The young are forced to face concepts and challenges of which they have had no prior experience on a regular basis. It is quite possible that they will consider new things readily and therefore tend towards open mindedness and a learning based approach.
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 14 Jun 17 3.40pm |
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Originally posted by europalace
So, who has 'agreed' and out of those that have 'agreed', how many have lived in Malta during the last 15 years when most of the economy has boomed due to EU membership? I've posted links to factual economic information about the country, everyone else seem to be using their biased vivid imaginations. Has that got anything to do with the umpteen millions given to Malta by the EU?
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 Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 14 Jun 17 7.42pm |
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| Stirlingsays 14 Jun 17 7.54pm |
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Originally posted by Cucking Funt
Mob rule. No respect for Democracy. This is a democracy. There never really is any revolution without blood so he better be careful what he wishes for when he calls for government downfalls without a voting system. Idiots could get excited. Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Jun 2017 7.55pm)
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 14 Jun 17 8.14pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Rubbish. Peaceful protest is democracy. Still if she really screwed the country up and knew it would she go? Workaholics are ok when its going well but if its bad then they can cause so much more damage. Yes it'll be peaceful. No animosity towards the police and no shop front glass anywhere and the cenotaph will stay untouched and respected.
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| We are goin up! Coulsdon 14 Jun 17 8.39pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Rubbish. Peaceful protest is democracy. Workaholics are ok when its going well but if its bad then they can cause so much more damage.
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croydon proud  Any european country i fancy! 14 Jun 17 8.52pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Yes it'll be peaceful. No animosity towards the police and no shop front glass anywhere and the cenotaph will stay untouched and respected. where do we meet and when?
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 14 Jun 17 8.54pm |
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Originally posted by We are goin up!
Struck me as a well principled man who'd gladly give his time on the couple of times I've met him.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 14 Jun 17 8.59pm |
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Originally posted by croydon proud
where do we meet and when? Are you on my side of the cenotaph or the excited morons?
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kenbarr  Jackson Heights, Queens, New York ... 14 Jun 17 9.19pm |
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Originally posted by We are goin up!
Peaceful protest, or petitioning the government for the redress of grievances, is an absolute part of democracy.
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| Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 14 Jun 17 9.25pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Rubbish. Peaceful protest is democracy. Still if she really screwed the country up and knew it would she go? Workaholics are ok when its going well but if its bad then they can cause so much more damage. Taking to the streets to "force out" (McDonnell's words, not mine) a government elected and appointed according to democratic principles is nothing short of inciting revolution. Fortunately, the rest of the country is not as pigsh*t stupid as you and can see this exactly for what it is.
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| crystal balls The Garden of Earthly Delights 14 Jun 17 9.34pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Are you on my side of the cenotaph or the excited morons? Those rock stars and their sons, eh? From either side of the political spectrum, the young today! Take the vote off 'em, I say. Only over 60's or Mail, Express and Telegraph readers should be able to put their x in the right place. Then we'd have a proper government! Bring back national service and tell 'em to get a proper haircut. It weren't like this in my day! No respect for their elders! It's not like we've had any advantages like final salary pensions, affordable housing, full employment or any of the other stuff we got! Bring back the birch, a good caning never did anyone any harm. I actually like it even now! As for those Labour voters, they've got to be the most ill-informed bunch of commie multi-culturalist traitors. Get rid of 'em I say, ugh ugh oh sorry my mouth was frothing there for a minute. I'd say string 'em up, but hanging's too good for'em. Nurse nurse... they won't stop me having an opinion, and I know I'm right, very right, so far right I'm right of right, oh I'd better have a lie down now! Ok officer I'll come quietly! ZZZZZZZ
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| Bobtail Crowborough 14 Jun 17 9.36pm |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Yes it'll be peaceful. No animosity towards the police and no shop front glass anywhere and the cenotaph will stay untouched and respected.
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 Hrolf The Ganger 14 Jun 17 9.39pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Rubbish. Peaceful protest is democracy. Still if she really screwed the country up and knew it would she go? Workaholics are ok when its going well but if its bad then they can cause so much more damage. Demonstrate about what exactly? 4K TVs still too expensive when you are on benefits? Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (14 Jun 2017 9.40pm)
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pefwin  Where you have to have an English ... 14 Jun 17 9.45pm |
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Originally posted by Cucking Funt
Taking to the streets to "force out" (McDonnell's words, not mine) a government elected and appointed according to democratic principles is nothing short of inciting revolution. Fortunately, the rest of the country is not as pigsh*t stupid as you and can see this exactly for what it is. Perhaps it is in your code of laws you advocate on another thread, but as you can see most see it as democracy. ....and if you a can afford a 4k tv on a pension perhaps pensions should be means tested.
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