A coalition gov is power-sharing is it not? Dominated by a massive majority of Tory MPs too.

Sounds like they were in power to me The Conservatives.

The Tories will have been in power for 28 of the last 41 years by 2020 and Labour are not going to win the next election so make that going to be 32 out of the previous 45 by 2024.

It would have been entirely reasonable to vote on the premise that the Tories/right-wing will hold power and policy for the next decade pre- during and after Brexit.

No way would I trust that lot to look out for the poorer members of society and no chance would I trust then not to unravel some safeguards enacted through the Social Charter disguised as 'helping the needy'

I assume you will feel the same if they manage to force through another referendum and get the result they want, so only remainers will pay the 350m a week to be EU members?

Just to clarify, I didn't vote to leave, but I find all this "well I didn't vote for it so I shouldn't have to pay" stuff laughable. I assume you would also back the hard right's pleas to not pay anything towards the support of immigrants, for instance?

The Tories will have been in power for 28 of the last 41 years by 2020 and Labour are not going to win the next election so make that going to be 32 out of the previous 45 by 2024.

It would have been entirely reasonable to vote on the premise that the Tories/right-wing will hold power and policy for the next decade pre- during and after Brexit.

No way would I trust that lot to look out for the poorer members of society and no chance would I trust then not to unravel some safeguards enacted through the Social Charter disguised as 'helping the needy'

I think that taxes will have to rise given brexit and the massive public debt the country has.

For brexit it would be fair for the brexiteers to pay for it through a brexit tax collected by HMRC but not by remain voters as that would be taxation without representation.

The brexiteers are enjoying the damage they are causing and its fair IMO that they should pay for it all.

Not as great as they would have been if we'd done it twenty years ago, but there will be plenty if arseholes stop trying to circumvent the democratic vote and we can ever carry it out.

Go on then, what positives? all Leavers seem to do os talk about what remainers ate saying.

Reducing net migration, welfare costs and NHS costs just for a start.

Not to mention the money wasted on the EU itself and the cronies within it.

Edited by Stuk (25 Nov 2016 4.18pm)

I'd tell the EU to f*** off, and that free movement is not open for debate. People seem to think they can dictate to us, when it's a two way street.

Tariffs can work two ways and we all know who exports more to each other in this scenario.

No, I voted to leave the EU for a whole host of reasons. You just asked for some positives/benefits of it. Are you denying there would be any savings to our welfare bill if we weren't in the EU with unrestricted migration? (and i'm not talking about it being offset by other immigrants paying tax, just the cost of the welfare bill itself.)

We'll save s***loads and, yes, we will save a lot more than the minor blip in the pound's value against dollar/euro.

You seem to forget that there are many more countries within the EU, that are projected to have much more and much longer misery than we will, that we would be having to prop up. We are one of only about a third of the members who actually fund the EU. and the second highest net amount of all!

I'd tell the EU to f*** off, and that free movement is not open for debate. People seem to think they can dictate to us, when it's a two way street.

Tariffs can work two ways and we all know who exports more to each other in this scenario.

No, I voted to leave the EU for a whole host of reasons. You just asked for some positives/benefits of it. Are you denying there would be any savings to our welfare bill if we weren't in the EU with unrestricted migration? (and i'm not talking about it being offset by other immigrants paying tax, just the cost of the welfare bill itself.)

We'll save s***loads and, yes, we will save a lot more than the minor blip in the pound's value against dollar/euro.

You seem to forget that there are many more countries within the EU, that are projected to have much more and much longer misery than we will, that we would be having to prop up. We are one of only about a third of the members who actually fund the EU. and the second highest net amount of all!