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Is It Time For Roy To Go, Yes or NO
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 EverybodyDannsNow  SE19 13 Jul 20 5.08pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
The record books will show that under Hodgson, England only lost 8 out of 56 games. They’ll also show 0 wins at the 2014 World Cup, and the only win at Euro 16 being a last minute winner against Wales. Across those tournaments we failed to beat any of; Slovakia, Russia, Iceland, Costa Rica, Uruguay or Italy. No one cares about beating San Marino and Gibraltar in qualifying.
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| EverybodyDannsNow SE19 13 Jul 20 5.09pm |
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Originally posted by Den1923
That is exactly what Norwich tried to do and look what happened to them! It’s also exactly what Sheff Utd tried to do and look what happened to them!
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 13 Jul 20 5.16pm |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
They’ll also show 0 wins at the 2014 World Cup, and the only win at Euro 16 being a last minute winner against Wales. Across those tournaments we failed to beat any of; Slovakia, Russia, Iceland, Costa Rica, Uruguay or Italy. No one cares about beating San Marino and Gibraltar in qualifying. It was said at the time, in different ways, that the PL is a great advert for our football but it does the national team no good whatsoever.
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| EverybodyDannsNow SE19 13 Jul 20 5.19pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
It was said at the time, in different ways, that the PL is a great advert for our football but it does the national team no good whatsoever. Poor Roy... no chance we could beat Slovakia and Iceland when our domestic league is so good.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 13 Jul 20 5.22pm |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
Poor Roy... no chance we could beat Slovakia and Iceland when our domestic league is so good. I know someone who spoke to Ray Lewington about the Iceland game.
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| NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 13 Jul 20 5.24pm |
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Originally posted by HKOwen
Out of curiosity why a special mention for Chris Powell? I cannot see anything in his managerial career that puts him as a candidate for other than an assistant manager role perhaps being mentored to take over from someone.
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| southnorwoodhill 13 Jul 20 5.29pm |
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I'd go for Eddie Jones, strong on defence and attack, got England to a World Cup final and takes no nonsense. Different sport, but hey ho
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Den1923  13 Jul 20 5.32pm |
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Originally posted by grumpymort
Squad is the magic word that Roy doesn't understand 25 men he appears to only know 13 max. Correct he does have another year contract. I agree who would want to come to us maybe if they knew Wilf was going and they had the money more interest but this club doesn't have good record of that does it we sell Wilf and SP does a bunch of super cheap or free players only. The whole club needs full new owner ship not just Americans maybe when this takes place a manager of their choice will come in until then SP loves Roy so he wont get rid of him unless we was relegated. Edited by grumpymort (13 Jul 2020 4.39pm) Just because you have at sometime in your career played international football does not mean your a good player in the current squad (Benteke/WH for example). Cahill for has 61 caps but at 34 whilst still our best CB is unlikely to feature for England again as is Townsend. Of the current squad who are current internationals Riedewald is the best prospect and of course we must not forget Wilf, who is of course an international but way of form this last season with only 2 goals. if our squad was that good with all its international then the goals scored 30 proves otherwise. As you rightly point out mid table would says our squad is average but as we are currently 14th and therefore in the bottom half of the table. Thes rest we are in agreement I think!
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| Den1923 13 Jul 20 5.38pm |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
It’s also exactly what Sheff Utd tried to do and look what happened to them! Yes, but they did spend smartly 62 million plus some good loans with an average age of arrivals being 25.51
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 13 Jul 20 5.48pm |
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Originally posted by Den1923
Yes, but they did spend smartly 62 million plus some good loans with an average age of arrivals being 25.51 Indeed £62 Mill 'Net Spend'.
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| Den1923 13 Jul 20 6.12pm |
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Originally posted by Brinscall Eagle
There is a lot of very valid and honest opinions being expressed as there are many ways to skin a cat so to speak. No one could disagree with this an entirely sensible approach, what we must correct is being stronger at home and our goal scoring record, hopefully we can do this by buying smartly 3/4 players and maybe 1 or 2 smart loan deals and hopefully that will do the job!
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| Tickled pink Cornwall 13 Jul 20 6.17pm |
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Originally posted by Uphill
I have just two questions: 1. To Roy Hodgson How can an experienced manager like you completely and utterly fail to motivate your team ? 2. Steve Parish Are you not testing the fans' blind loyalty by, in effect, saying next season we MIGHT just stay up by again playing the manager's same negative style ? Answer to 1. - he obviously can't and has no idea what to do. Answer to 2: he is gambling that he does not have to step in come December with a new manager. What was your reaction after we beat Bournemouth 2-0 our fourth successive win without any goals against I wonder
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..our manager isn't responsible for individual stupid mistakes from silly defenders who should know and understand much better, we will probably beat Wolves and Spurs and give moan.U a good game, hopefully you'll be able to find all your toys. robdave2k 13 Jul 20 6.20pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
I know someone who spoke to Ray Lewington about the Iceland game. “Coach and manager of crap performance blame someone else” I’ve no doubt the preparation of the system has been meticulous the last half dozen games. Unfortunately if it’s been figured out or no one is listening then what does it matter. You’ve simply practiced something that doesn’t work. We mirror England under Roy. He came in, organised but the second anything more needs to happen and there is a massive gap.
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| Tickled pink Cornwall 13 Jul 20 6.25pm |
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Originally posted by Den1923
No one could disagree with this an entirely sensible approach, what we must correct is being stronger at home and our goal scoring record, hopefully we can do this by buying smartly 3/4 players and maybe 1 or 2 smart loan deals and hopefully that will do the job! Creativity in midfield is what we need, finding it at a price we can do is the problem then we just have to hope they don't become too good.
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| Eaglecoops CR3 13 Jul 20 6.42pm |
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Originally posted by Tickled pink
What was your reaction after we beat Bournemouth 2-0 our fourth successive win without any goals against I wonder Nothing like a throw away insult to finish a paragraph. Totally unnecessary.
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| Den1923 13 Jul 20 6.45pm |
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Originally posted by Tickled pink
Creativity in midfield is what we need, finding it at a price we can do is the problem then we just have to hope they don't become too good. Your absolutely correct we do need a creative attacking midfielder, that may be Meyer if he is given the chance to have ago in these last three games!
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jeeagles  13 Jul 20 7.01pm |
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Originally posted by robdave2k
“Coach and manager of crap performance blame someone else” I’ve no doubt the preparation of the system has been meticulous the last half dozen games. Unfortunately if it’s been figured out or no one is listening then what does it matter. You’ve simply practiced something that doesn’t work. We mirror England under Roy. He came in, organised but the second anything more needs to happen and there is a massive gap. It's definitely a teflon coated excuse. Compare that to Southgates approach where everything is done to make sure the players are prepared tactically, mentally, and physically to go out to win. Players know what to do under any scenario, following the Woodward TCUP mantra. I'm pretty sure the set peice routines and owning the moment ideas were circulated and mastered by players well before they trained together as a group. Southgate has turned over every stone in the England set up to look for marginal gains were ever he can. All England teams are focused on getting the best senior team we can, and he's always looking to improve. The Hodgson era of England management was dreadful. It was like the FA had just given up trying. Players just seem to not want to play. Roy has a well prepared approach, but only under one scenario. Once that's found out, he's f***ed. If you want to celebrate mediocrity and subject yourself to predictable choices, then all the fun is sucked out of life.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 13 Jul 20 7.14pm |
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Originally posted by robdave2k
“Coach and manager of crap performance blame someone else” I’ve no doubt the preparation of the system has been meticulous the last half dozen games. Unfortunately if it’s been figured out or no one is listening then what does it matter. You’ve simply practiced something that doesn’t work. We mirror England under Roy. He came in, organised but the second anything more needs to happen and there is a massive gap. Players train hard, are well prepared and know their jobs, but sometimes due to a variety of reasons they just don't deliver when they cross that white line much to the frustration of the manager.
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