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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 09 Jan 17 1.52pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

Not playing the victim, just highlighting that you can dish it out but take umbrage when it comes back at you me old casual racist (we'll use that term, as it is acceptable outside scientific terms) white supremacist chum.


I think you meant defamation.

Yes, I meant defamation.

Once again your misrepresentation is laughable.

White supremacist? I'm not sure that evolution thrives on superiority. More chance adaptation giving small advantage in an existing environment.
There is an argument that says that the Renaissance was caused by a huge drop in population caused by the plague. It is also widely believed that out rejection of the shackles of the Catholic church and less reliance on centralised government allowed us to begin the industrial revolution.

Not a good advert for religion or EU Federalism is it?

White superiority? We Brits made good choices and had a s*** load of coal. Why did science suddenly take off in the Renaissance in Europe? Who knows.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 09 Jan 17 2.07pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Yes, I meant defamation.

Once again your misrepresentation is laughable.

White supremacist? I'm not sure that evolution thrives on superiority. More chance adaptation giving small advantage in an existing environment.
There is an argument that says that the Renaissance was caused by a huge drop in population caused by the plague. It is also widely believed that out rejection of the shackles of the Catholic church and less reliance on centralised government allowed us to begin the industrial revolution.

Not a good advert for religion or EU Federalism is it?

White superiority? We Brits made good choices and had a s*** load of coal. Why did science suddenly take off in the Renaissance in Europe? Who knows.


I note you removed the wink smiley from my post after 'white supremacist '
Now who is misrepresenting?

 

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View Sedlescombe's Profile Sedlescombe Flag Sedlescombe 09 Jan 17 2.30pm Send a Private Message to Sedlescombe Add Sedlescombe as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Yes, I meant defamation.

Once again your misrepresentation is laughable.

White supremacist? I'm not sure that evolution thrives on superiority. More chance adaptation giving small advantage in an existing environment.
There is an argument that says that the Renaissance was caused by a huge drop in population caused by the plague. It is also widely believed that out rejection of the shackles of the Catholic church and less reliance on centralised government allowed us to begin the industrial revolution.

Not a good advert for religion or EU Federalism is it?

White superiority? We Brits made good choices and had a s*** load of coal. Why did science suddenly take off in the Renaissance in Europe? Who knows.

I am not sure that it was the Catholic church that held back countries such as France or the fact that the latter was incredibly centralising at the time - and still has similar tendancies - but something between those two reasons explains why the IE happened in the UK rather than France 9there was an excellent documentary on the the TV only a week or so ago.

However given that the islamic world was - a thousand years ago - the worlds scientific powerhouse and it seems almost anything you can name seems to have been invented in China (from paper to gunpowder and the compass to fermentation) it would seem there are many routes to innovation.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 09 Jan 17 2.54pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Sedlescombe

I am not sure that it was the Catholic church that held back countries such as France or the fact that the latter was incredibly centralising at the time - and still has similar tendancies - but something between those two reasons explains why the IE happened in the UK rather than France 9there was an excellent documentary on the the TV only a week or so ago.

However given that the islamic world was - a thousand years ago - the worlds scientific powerhouse and it seems almost anything you can name seems to have been invented in China (from paper to gunpowder and the compass to fermentation) it would seem there are many routes to innovation.

Not sure if you are agreeing or disagreeing there.

As for the Islamic world. They did progress nicely until that was all stopped by their religion. I believe there was a total ban on books at one point. Except for at least one of course. I stand to be corrected.
Science and culture does not always progress. Many cultures have seen regression for various reasons. The Europeans are still moving forward but I'm very sure that it has been despite religion not because of it.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 09 Jan 17 2.55pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset


I note you removed the wink smiley from my post after 'white supremacist '
Now who is misrepresenting?

#desperateGusset

 

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View Sedlescombe's Profile Sedlescombe Flag Sedlescombe 09 Jan 17 3.34pm Send a Private Message to Sedlescombe Add Sedlescombe as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Not sure if you are agreeing or disagreeing there.

As for the Islamic world. They did progress nicely until that was all stopped by their religion. I believe there was a total ban on books at one point. Except for at least one of course. I stand to be corrected.
Science and culture does not always progress. Many cultures have seen regression for various reasons. The Europeans are still moving forward but I'm very sure that it has been despite religion not because of it.


More agreeing than disagreeing. Arguably the USA has always appeared religious and continued to make plenty of money though I dont think religious piety was ever allowed to get in the way of the profit motive.


 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 09 Jan 17 3.48pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Sedlescombe


More agreeing than disagreeing. Arguably the USA has always appeared religious and continued to make plenty of money though I dont think religious piety was ever allowed to get in the way of the profit motive.


I think the US government has paid lip service to religion but has always been geared toward progress. They have also had a huge abundance of natural resources to fuel it.

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (09 Jan 2017 3.49pm)

 

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View Y Ddraig Goch's Profile Y Ddraig Goch Flag In The Crowd 10 Jan 17 9.28am Send a Private Message to Y Ddraig Goch Add Y Ddraig Goch as a friend

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.TUX. Flag 10 Jan 17 9.35am

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 10 Jan 17 9.43am

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Yes, I meant defamation.

Once again your misrepresentation is laughable.

White supremacist? I'm not sure that evolution thrives on superiority. More chance adaptation giving small advantage in an existing environment.
There is an argument that says that the Renaissance was caused by a huge drop in population caused by the plague. It is also widely believed that out rejection of the shackles of the Catholic church and less reliance on centralised government allowed us to begin the industrial revolution.

Not a good advert for religion or EU Federalism is it?

White superiority? We Brits made good choices and had a s*** load of coal. Why did science suddenly take off in the Renaissance in Europe? Who knows.

Largely on the basis of the Italian Free states trade and relationship with the middle east, treasures taken by the returning crusaders, the invasion of the moors into (modern Italy) and Spain, along with the sack of Byzantium in the third crusade, supported by the Venetian fleet.

 


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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 10 Jan 17 9.44am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by .TUX.

For wanting a fairer society?

Sadly there's loads of people who like the thought of earning millions at the top of the tree when reality is they may never have to pay 40% tax. They don't understand that it is not just the earner who gets the advantages from astronomical salaries but their kids and probably nieces and nephews, and their kids and their kids.

 


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.TUX. Flag 10 Jan 17 10.00am

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Sadly there's loads of people who like the thought of earning millions at the top of the tree when reality is they may never have to pay 40% tax. They don't understand that it is not just the earner who gets the advantages from astronomical salaries but their kids and probably nieces and nephews, and their kids and their kids.

Far too many don't understand that money only ever gets sucked upwards, they still believe it trickles down.
As the facts show, these 'advantages' have been massively reduced over the past 30-40yrs.



 


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