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Y Ddraig Goch Flag In The Crowd 13 Jan 17 9.43am

Originally posted by mattteo


It's just an opinion, mate. Of course I think MY opinion is the right one. I mean....doesn't everybody?

I'm all about watching players beyond statistics. I only talk about players I've watched.

But when you have a debate about who is better offensively, van Aanholt o Souare and the first has provided like 12 assists while the latter only 1 in a similar amount of time, then it's just normal to shove the statistics down the throat of the one who is still blind.

I mean it's not a 3 to 1 or 6 to 1 or even 10 to 1 difference.
It's 12 to 1 in favour of van Aanholt.


Edited by mattteo (12 Jan 2017 8.11pm)

Edited by mattteo (12 Jan 2017 8.12pm)


Except no one has said Souare is better than van Aanholt

You make up arguments

 


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mattteo Flag 13 Jan 17 10.00am

Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch

Almost Souare-esque great going forward


Does "almost Soare-esque great going forward" not mean that Souare is greater??

 

glazedallover Flag Allier 13 Jan 17 10.06am

Originally posted by mattteo


Does "almost Soare-esque great going forward" not mean that Souare is greater??

I would respectfully suggest it is a comparison of playing style rather than a direct comparison in ability.

 

Y Ddraig Goch Flag In The Crowd 13 Jan 17 10.29am

Originally posted by glazedallover

I would respectfully suggest it is a comparison of playing style rather than a direct comparison in ability.

Indeed, which I explained to him before but he chooses to ignore

 


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mattteo Flag 13 Jan 17 10.45am

Originally posted by glazedallover

I would respectfully suggest it is a comparison of playing style rather than a direct comparison in ability.

I honestly don;t see the difference between playing style and ability when you use the term "going forward".
The playing style and the ability to go forward are one and the same in this context

 

chateauferret Flag 13 Jan 17 11.14am

Originally posted by mattteo

Why devoid of strikers?
Gayle is one of the best strikers I've seen. Adebayor is not that bad. Connor Wickham is average.

It's not their fault that Souare can't cross.

I seem to remember the net Palace population of the box on most of these occasions being Campbell. Pardew didn't use Gayle properly, Wickham has had spells of injury (and a ban, last season) and Adebayor didn't live up to expectations.

So would you accept van Aanholt as a replacement for Souare in the circumstances? I would. Does that mean Souare is no good? Obviously not.

In any case we're missing the point here that however good or not Souare was last season there's no guarantee he'll ever be up to Premiership football after his injury. In the context of that any comparison between his performances last season and those of any other player are to a degree academic. And some of you mentioning no names should be showing him a bit more respect because he has been a valuable member of the squad and he is lucky to be alive. HTH.


Edited by chateauferret (13 Jan 2017 11.20am)

 


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Y Ddraig Goch Flag In The Crowd 13 Jan 17 11.22am

Originally posted by mattteo

I honestly don;t see the difference between playing style and ability when you use the term "going forward".
The playing style and the ability to go forward are one and the same in this context

Because you claim that I was saying Souare is better when clearly I wasn't. You are wrong, you either misunderstood or too wrapped up in your argument. Either way just unwilling to admit you got it wrong

At the risk of repeating myself again and sounding like a frigging Parrot, I haven't seen enough of van Aanholt to comment on his ability in any depth which is why I quoted a Sunderland supporting friend re his consistency.

 


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chateauferret Flag 13 Jan 17 11.25am

Originally posted by mattteo

I honestly don;t see the difference between playing style and ability when you use the term "going forward".
The playing style and the ability to go forward are one and the same in this context

By that logic we should be content to play Fryers there all the time. Sorted.

 


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palaceontheup Flag 13 Jan 17 11.58am

Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch


Except no one has said Souare is better than van Aanholt

You make up arguments

He also like's to start arguments and repeatedly ignore replies because he knows he's talking out his arse.

 


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mattteo Flag 13 Jan 17 12.08pm

Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch

Because you claim that I was saying Souare is better when clearly I wasn't. You are wrong, you either misunderstood or too wrapped up in your argument. Either way just unwilling to admit you got it wrong

At the risk of repeating myself again and sounding like a frigging Parrot, I haven't seen enough of van Aanholt to comment on his ability in any depth which is why I quoted a Sunderland supporting friend re his consistency.


Ok, then I was wrong. English is not my first language. From where I stand, there's only 1 possible interpretation to what you said. But if you say you meant it otherwise, why wouldn't I believe you.

Glad we agree that Souare is not good forward and that van Aanholt is.

 

mattteo Flag 13 Jan 17 12.08pm

Originally posted by palaceontheup

He also like's to start arguments and repeatedly ignore replies because he knows he's talking out his arse.


I don't ignore replies. The thread is long and maybe I missed some. I'm skimming through it.

 

glazedallover Flag Allier 13 Jan 17 2.01pm

Originally posted by mattteo


Ok, then I was wrong. English is not my first language. From where I stand, there's only 1 possible interpretation to what you said. But if you say you meant it otherwise, why wouldn't I believe you.

Glad we agree that Souare is not good forward and that van Aanholt is.

To illustrate. "English is not my first language" almost Bilko-esque a great defence.

This merely is saying you use a similar defence, and in no way infers that bilko is/was any better at arguing than you........

 

coulsdoneagle Flag London 13 Jan 17 2.33pm

Anyone seen Bilko since he got that thing wrong about Flamini and the squad places. That was one of the funniest things to happen on the Hol in the many years I have been reading this site.

 

cpfc1976 Flag Reading 13 Jan 17 2.37pm

He disappeared from here when Flammini was announced in the squad for the first time. He was another self styled football authority. Probably on some FA course right now.

 

Bullhorn76 Flag Darlington 13 Jan 17 2.51pm

Another one off the list then ......SUNDERLAND REJECT PVA BID

David Moyes has admitted Sunderland have knocked back a bid from Crystal Palace for Patrick van Aanholt. Sky sources understand the bid to be in the region of £7m.

Moyes also said Sunderland have knocked back bids for "a lot" of their players this month.

 

chris123 Flag hove actually 13 Jan 17 2.55pm

Originally posted by coulsdoneagle

Anyone seen Bilko since he got that thing wrong about Flamini and the squad places. That was one of the funniest things to happen on the Hol in the many years I have been reading this site.

Looking back, SB was threatened with a card and hasn't posted since, which is a shame.

 

kennybrowns leftfoot Flag Reigate 13 Jan 17 3.02pm

Originally posted by coulsdoneagle

Anyone seen Bilko since he got that thing wrong about Flamini and the squad places. That was one of the funniest things to happen on the Hol in the many years I have been reading this site.

He as a funny one Bilko wasn't he?? I remember a couple of seasons ago an incident that the ref missed during one of our games. Everyone wanted to know why he couldn't be retrospectively charged. I asked my dad who is a referee assessor for the FA and then posted the answer on here.

Bilko was adamant my Dad was wrong. A few days later the FA issued a statement basically repeating what my Dad had told me.... Bilko still wouldn't have it and insisted both my Dad and the FA were wrong!!

Did make me chuckle...

 


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Paul67 Flag 13 Jan 17 3.05pm

Originally posted by Bullhorn76

Another one off the list then ......SUNDERLAND REJECT PVA BID

David Moyes has admitted Sunderland have knocked back a bid from Crystal Palace for Patrick van Aanholt. Sky sources understand the bid to be in the region of £7m.

Moyes also said Sunderland have knocked back bids for "a lot" of their players this month.

If Sunderland were desperate to keep him, why would they publicize the bid? This sound s like they're trying to invite more bids.

 

Goldfiinger Flag Just down the road 13 Jan 17 3.41pm

We wouldn't be after both PVA and Evra would we?

 

NickinOX Flag Sailing country. 13 Jan 17 3.42pm

Originally posted by kennybrowns leftfoot

He as a funny one Bilko wasn't he?? I remember a couple of seasons ago an incident that the ref missed during one of our games. Everyone wanted to know why he couldn't be retrospectively charged. I asked my dad who is a referee assessor for the FA and then posted the answer on here.

Bilko was adamant my Dad was wrong. A few days later the FA issued a statement basically repeating what my Dad had told me.... Bilko still wouldn't have it and insisted both my Dad and the FA were wrong!!

Did make me chuckle...


He also said Van Dijk would never make it in the PL.

 


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