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View topcat's Profile topcat Flag Holmesdale / Surbiton 13 Apr 17 2.32pm Send a Private Message to topcat Add topcat as a friend

I can't see how we are going to fund the necessary replacements required without selling Wilf. If not Wilf then who?

 


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View Nobbybm's Profile Nobbybm Flag Dartford 13 Apr 17 2.40pm Send a Private Message to Nobbybm Add Nobbybm as a friend

Originally posted by topcat

I can't see how we are going to fund the necessary replacements required without selling Wilf. If not Wilf then who?

EPL money & billionaire shareholders could help

FFP has been our main issue but there's a fair few contracts that won't be renewed when they expire at the end of the season - should free up a reasonable pot of cash for wages too.

 


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View Croydonlad's Profile Croydonlad Flag sydenham 13 Apr 17 3.24pm Send a Private Message to Croydonlad Add Croydonlad as a friend

Originally posted by Dan89

When we think we on to a good thing. We usually shoot ourselves in the foot. Tony pulis 1st season. We had momentum and he walked out over transfer policy. Alan Pardew 1st season everything was going rosey until he thought he could turn us into Barca style with Delaney in the back 4. Let's enjoy the current success but let's not get carried away. A question is big Sam look like a great manager because of Alan Pardew failings?

Absolutely not ~ Sam is looking good in his own right and comparable to any Manager in the Premiership right now

 

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jeeagles Flag 13 Apr 17 3.57pm


We are beginning to sound like Liverpool fans "next year's are year".

Unfortunately, I am an eternal pessimist who hopes to be proven wrong.

Should we stay up next season we there are 3 things we must do.

- Secure Big Sam
- Secure Wilfred Zaha
- Sign Sahko.

BFS has a lot of ambition, Parish has shown willingness to match it. It seems to have put the fire back in his belly. So there's little risk of loosing hime.

I don't think Wilf will want to leave London, and he'll want to play in the Champions League. That leaves Chelsea and Spurs. He doesn't fit in to Chelsea's system. From my limited knowledge, Spurs don't have another out and out wide man to play on the other wing. He's also worth a lot more to us than any other side. I think we will meet his wage demand and stay for at least one more season.

The only other interest in Sahko is from West Brom. I think we can beat them to his signature. It all depends on how much money Liverpool are after.

We are also likely to get Wickham and Pape back next season. They will almost feel like new signings.

Cabaye, Mandanda and a number of fringe players might be leaving. Puncheon is also starting to get on a bit. Which means we'll also need a keeper, a right back, a defender (Sahko), a centre midfielder, an attacking midfielder, a winger and a striker to ensure we have sufficient depth in the squad. That's still a lot of signings.


 

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 13 Apr 17 4.44pm

Originally posted by jeeagles


We are beginning to sound like Liverpool fans "next year's are year".

Unfortunately, I am an eternal pessimist who hopes to be proven wrong.

Should we stay up next season we there are 3 things we must do.

- Secure Big Sam
- Secure Wilfred Zaha
- Sign Sahko.

BFS has a lot of ambition, Parish has shown willingness to match it. It seems to have put the fire back in his belly. So there's little risk of loosing hime.

I don't think Wilf will want to leave London, and he'll want to play in the Champions League. That leaves Chelsea and Spurs. He doesn't fit in to Chelsea's system. From my limited knowledge, Spurs don't have another out and out wide man to play on the other wing. He's also worth a lot more to us than any other side. I think we will meet his wage demand and stay for at least one more season.

The only other interest in Sahko is from West Brom. I think we can beat them to his signature. It all depends on how much money Liverpool are after.

We are also likely to get Wickham and Pape back next season. They will almost feel like new signings.

Cabaye, Mandanda and a number of fringe players might be leaving. Puncheon is also starting to get on a bit. Which means we'll also need a keeper, a right back, a defender (Sahko), a centre midfielder, an attacking midfielder, a winger and a striker to ensure we have sufficient depth in the squad. That's still a lot of signings.


- Secure Big Sam - I think this is the easy one. Under contract, seems happy, and re-establishing his credentials - plus big clubs don't tend to go in for Sam and he's not really known for walking away. I doubt any club will make an offer to him before Christmas when they establish 'a need to stay up'.

- Secure Wilfred Zaha - I think this will prove impossible. High profile, established himself as consistent and now one of the brightest talents in this league. Proven and at a club that can be influenced and leveraged in terms of profile and finance rewards.

- Sign Sahko - I think this is slightly more possible than retaining Zaha, on the basis that Liverpool want shot of him, and I don't think he'll fit in with Kloopy-chops. That said, I also think almost every other team from outside the biggest six, will be interested as well. I see him going to Everton.

 


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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 13 Apr 17 4.51pm

Next year the priority is staying up. Same as every year. We should be happy with being an also ran at this level and look to build the best squad we can and take anything extra as a bonus.

I think it'll be a long time before we have another Leicester City story.

Clubs like Bolton, Blackburn, Charlton, Newcastle, West Ham etc have all paid a heavy price for trying 'to be more than they are'.

And to be honest, there isn't really much incentive to finish in the top 10, other than Europe - and that can be a poison chalice.

 


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View rob1969's Profile rob1969 Flag Banstead Surrey 13 Apr 17 5.33pm Send a Private Message to rob1969 Add rob1969 as a friend

Think keeping our manager and the top players next season are inter connected. Two halves of the same issue.
Loose one half and we might then loose the other half. Depending on outcome of that we will even have a really good season 2017/18 - or struggle once again!

 

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View bexleydave's Profile bexleydave Flag Barnehurst 14 Apr 17 9.33am Send a Private Message to bexleydave Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add bexleydave as a friend

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Next year the priority is staying up. Same as every year. We should be happy with being an also ran at this level and look to build the best squad we can and take anything extra as a bonus.


I very much doubt that Parish, or any of the other owners for that matter, would share that sentiment.

 


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View Painter's Profile Painter Flag Croydon 14 Apr 17 9.50am Send a Private Message to Painter Add Painter as a friend

Originally posted by bexleydave


I very much doubt that Parish, or any of the other owners for that matter, would share that sentiment.

I think you will find they are, staying in the Premiership is the number one objective. It's all about the money.

 

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Originally posted by jamiemartin721

- Secure Big Sam - I think this is the easy one. Under contract, seems happy, and re-establishing his credentials - plus big clubs don't tend to go in for Sam and he's not really known for walking away. I doubt any club will make an offer to him before Christmas when they establish 'a need to stay up'.

- Secure Wilfred Zaha - I think this will prove impossible. High profile, established himself as consistent and now one of the brightest talents in this league. Proven and at a club that can be influenced and leveraged in terms of profile and finance rewards.

- Sign Sahko - I think this is slightly more possible than retaining Zaha, on the basis that Liverpool want shot of him, and I don't think he'll fit in with Kloopy-chops. That said, I also think almost every other team from outside the biggest six, will be interested as well. I see him going to Everton.

I agree that big Sam will stay

Wilf, I think he will stay. He wants guaranteed first team football which none of the top half dozen clubs will give him. I think the Manchester experience was an eye opener and I don't think he will make same mistake again. Yes he is older and has got more consistent but in my view he is still not ready for theses sides. My only worry would be Arsenal their interest may just turn his head.
Sahko I think we have a very good chance of getting him,I think he is enjoying his football . He is not happy at Liverpool and Klopp doesn't rate him. He needs to be wanted much like Wilf and we can do that. The fee I think could be a lot less than being quoted. His falling out with Liverpool, and ban will have reduced his value. I think a much lower transfer figure and hefty sell on clause will be answer

 

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View bexleydave's Profile bexleydave Flag Barnehurst 14 Apr 17 10.10am Send a Private Message to bexleydave Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add bexleydave as a friend

Originally posted by Painter

I think you will find they are, staying in the Premiership is the number one objective. It's all about the money.

You think that Parish didn't mean his assertion that we need to move away from our small team mentality? Also, there's a huge difference between having PL survival as a priority (which clearly it has to be) and being "happy with being an also ran".

 


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chateauferret Flag 14 Apr 17 10.31am

When TalkSh!te started banging on about "Allardyce to Arsenal" the other day I laughed for so long I couldn't hear to find out why they believed there was any milage in such total s***e.

 


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