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Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 18 Apr 17 6.35pm
Originally posted by nickgusset Since the Tories got in,they have created more debt than all other labour governments put together. Let that sink in. In real terms? Figures and evidence, please. Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

Cucking Funt

Clapham on the Back 18 Apr 17 6.35pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Since the Tories got in,they have created more debt than all other labour governments put together. Let that sink in.

In real terms? Figures and evidence, please.

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 18 Apr 17 6.40pm
Originally posted by nickgusset Constituency labour parties allowed to choose own candidate is a bad thing? Don't act dumb. You know what the consequences will be. the dignified don't even enter in the game

Y Ddraig Goch

In The Crowd 18 Apr 17 6.40pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Constituency labour parties allowed to choose own candidate is a bad thing?

Don't act dumb. You know what the consequences will be.

the dignified don't even enter in the game

Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 18 Apr 17 6.40pm
Most tasteless tweet to try and gain political capital goes to [Tweet Link] the dignified don't even enter in the game

Y Ddraig Goch

In The Crowd 18 Apr 17 6.40pm

Most tasteless tweet to try and gain political capital goes to

[Tweet Link]

the dignified don't even enter in the game

elgrande bedford 18 Apr 17 6.42pm
Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch Most tasteless tweet to try and gain political capital goes to [Tweet Link] There would be total uproar if that was a Tory tweeting that,that really really bullocks always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

elgrande

bedford 18 Apr 17 6.42pm

Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch

Most tasteless tweet to try and gain political capital goes to

[Tweet Link]

There would be total uproar if that was a Tory tweeting that,that really really bullocks

always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

Hrolf The Ganger 18 Apr 17 6.49pm
Originally posted by nickgusset Since the Tories got in,they have created more debt than all other labour governments put together. Let that sink in. Sounds like a lefty spin factoid to me.

Hrolf The Ganger

18 Apr 17 6.49pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Since the Tories got in,they have created more debt than all other labour governments put together. Let that sink in.

Sounds like a lefty spin factoid to me.

pefwin Where you have to have an English ... 18 Apr 17 6.51pm
Originally posted by jamiemartin721 Slavery in Britain as far as the Americas goes was more about selling slaves to the US, with the concept of Slavery being ended around the Norman Conquest (although indentured service and the workhouse are arguably forms of enslavement - the individual is not bought and sold in the same way). Sorry but Cromwell sent Scots to the Caribbean as slaves after the Battle of Dunbar and also the Irish. Their descendants were offered a chance to return during the reign of Queen Victoria. "Everything is air-droppable at least once." "When the going gets tough, the tough call for close air support."

pefwin

Where you have to have an English ... 18 Apr 17 6.51pm

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Slavery in Britain as far as the Americas goes was more about selling slaves to the US, with the concept of Slavery being ended around the Norman Conquest (although indentured service and the workhouse are arguably forms of enslavement - the individual is not bought and sold in the same way).

Sorry but Cromwell sent Scots to the Caribbean as slaves after the Battle of Dunbar and also the Irish. Their descendants were offered a chance to return during the reign of Queen Victoria.

"Everything is air-droppable at least once."

"When the going gets tough, the tough call for close air support."

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 18 Apr 17 6.54pm
Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch Don't act dumb. You know what the consequences will be. Yes, those mps that local constituents are happy with will be fine. Labour party members will be able to decide. If the PLP want someone to stand in a constituency, they'll have to go through the CLP. I can't imagine there'd be too much fuss cos there ain't enough time.

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 18 Apr 17 6.54pm

Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch

Don't act dumb. You know what the consequences will be.

Yes, those mps that local constituents are happy with will be fine.
Labour party members will be able to decide. If the PLP want someone to stand in a constituency, they'll have to go through the CLP. I can't imagine there'd be too much fuss cos there ain't enough time.

We are goin up! Coulsdon 18 Apr 17 7.05pm
Originally posted by Cucking Funt In real terms? Figures and evidence, please. It's hard to disagree with what Nick is saying. The Tories really should have made more cuts. The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

We are goin up!

Coulsdon 18 Apr 17 7.05pm

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

In real terms? Figures and evidence, please.

It's hard to disagree with what Nick is saying. The Tories really should have made more cuts.

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

Mr_Gristle In the land of Whelk Eaters 18 Apr 17 7.12pm
Originally posted by serial thriller I'm really interested by those who look at our country atm and in the past few years and think 'hmmm, 5 more years of this please'. Does anyone expect the Tories to actually campaign on anything positive? It will be more fear and scare tactics with added flag-waving faux patriotism. Well I think Simon's head is large; always involved in espionage. (Name that tune)

Mr_Gristle

In the land of Whelk Eaters 18 Apr 17 7.12pm

Originally posted by serial thriller

I'm really interested by those who look at our country atm and in the past few years and think 'hmmm, 5 more years of this please'.

Does anyone expect the Tories to actually campaign on anything positive? It will be more fear and scare tactics with added flag-waving faux patriotism.

Well I think Simon's head is large; always involved in espionage. (Name that tune)

Stirlingsays 18 Apr 17 7.20pm
Originally posted by nickgusset Since the Tories got in,they have created more debt than all other labour governments put together. Let that sink in. But a sh-t load less debt than Labour would have had. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

18 Apr 17 7.20pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Since the Tories got in,they have created more debt than all other labour governments put together. Let that sink in.

But a sh-t load less debt than Labour would have had.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 18 Apr 17 7.32pm
Originally posted by Cucking Funt In real terms? Figures and evidence, please. A quick look at the economic evidence reveals that only two Labour governments have ever left office leaving the national debt higher as a percentage of GDP than it was when they came to power, and all of the others have lowered it as a percentage of GDP. On the two occasions that Labour oversaw increases in the national debt as a percentage of GDP there were the mitigating circumstances of huge global financial crises. The Ramsay MacDonald government of 1929-31 coincided with global fallout from the Wall Street Crash (they left a 12% increase in the debt to GDP ratio), and the last few years of the Blair-Brown government of 1997-2010 coincided with the 2008 financial sector insolvency crisis (they left an 11% increase). The other Labour governments all reduced the scale of the national debt, Clement Attlee's government of 1945-51 reduced the national debt by 40% of GDP despite having to rebuild the UK economy from the ruins of the Second World War; Harold Wilson's 1964-70 government reduced the national debt by 27% of GDP; and even the Wilson-Callaghan government of 1974-79 managed to reduce the debt by 4% of GDP. The majority of Labour governments have ended up reducing the national debt, and the two that didn't happened to coincide with the biggest global financial crisis of the 20th Century and the biggest global financial crisis so far in the 21st Century. Edited by nickgusset (18 Apr 2017 7.36pm)

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 18 Apr 17 7.32pm

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

In real terms? Figures and evidence, please.

A quick look at the economic evidence reveals that only two Labour governments have ever left office leaving the national debt higher as a percentage of GDP than it was when they came to power, and all of the others have lowered it as a percentage of GDP.

On the two occasions that Labour oversaw increases in the national debt as a percentage of GDP there were the mitigating circumstances of huge global financial crises. The Ramsay MacDonald government of 1929-31 coincided with global fallout from the Wall Street Crash (they left a 12% increase in the debt to GDP ratio), and the last few years of the Blair-Brown government of 1997-2010 coincided with the 2008 financial sector insolvency crisis (they left an 11% increase). The other Labour governments all reduced the scale of the national debt, Clement Attlee's government of 1945-51 reduced the national debt by 40% of GDP despite having to rebuild the UK economy from the ruins of the Second World War; Harold Wilson's 1964-70 government reduced the national debt by 27% of GDP; and even the Wilson-Callaghan government of 1974-79 managed to reduce the debt by 4% of GDP.

The majority of Labour governments have ended up reducing the national debt, and the two that didn't happened to coincide with the biggest global financial crisis of the 20th Century and the biggest global financial crisis so far in the 21st Century.

Edited by nickgusset (18 Apr 2017 7.36pm)

miss smith london 18 Apr 17 7.39pm
Originally posted by nickgusset nick your going to be exhausted by the 8 june with all these tory tos*ers on the hol Edited by miss smith (18 Apr 2017 7.40pm)

miss smith

london 18 Apr 17 7.39pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

nick your going to be exhausted by the 8 june with all these tory tos*ers on the hol

Edited by miss smith (18 Apr 2017 7.40pm)

matt_himself Matataland 18 Apr 17 8.06pm
Originally posted by Mr_Gristle Does anyone expect the Tories to actually campaign on anything positive? It will be more fear and scare tactics with added flag-waving faux patriotism. That's what the SNP will do but it's ok because the SNP are 'progressive'. Edited by matt_himself (18 Apr 2017 8.06pm) "That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

matt_himself

Matataland 18 Apr 17 8.06pm

Originally posted by Mr_Gristle

Does anyone expect the Tories to actually campaign on anything positive? It will be more fear and scare tactics with added flag-waving faux patriotism.

That's what the SNP will do but it's ok because the SNP are 'progressive'.

Edited by matt_himself (18 Apr 2017 8.06pm)

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

Mr_Gristle In the land of Whelk Eaters 18 Apr 17 8.13pm
Originally posted by matt_himself That's what the SNP will do but it's ok because the SNP are 'progressive'. Edited by matt_himself (18 Apr 2017 8.06pm) I don't disagree with you on that, Matt. You can still be opportunistic cunds and socialist-lite; it's not just a Tory perogative ;-) Well I think Simon's head is large; always involved in espionage. (Name that tune)

Mr_Gristle

In the land of Whelk Eaters 18 Apr 17 8.13pm

Originally posted by matt_himself

That's what the SNP will do but it's ok because the SNP are 'progressive'.

Edited by matt_himself (18 Apr 2017 8.06pm)

I don't disagree with you on that, Matt. You can still be opportunistic cunds and socialist-lite; it's not just a Tory perogative ;-)

Well I think Simon's head is large; always involved in espionage. (Name that tune)

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 18 Apr 17 8.15pm
Seems the link between cps prosecutions for electoral fraud and calling of a GE is growing stronger. [Tweet Link] May doesn't want to face 25 by elections.

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 18 Apr 17 8.15pm

Seems the link between cps prosecutions for electoral fraud and calling of a GE is growing stronger.

[Tweet Link]

May doesn't want to face 25 by elections.

Hrolf The Ganger 18 Apr 17 8.24pm
Originally posted by nickgusset Seems the link between cps prosecutions for electoral fraud and calling of a GE is growing stronger. [Tweet Link] May doesn't want to face 25 by elections. Yes because Labour are doing so well in the polls.

Hrolf The Ganger

18 Apr 17 8.24pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Seems the link between cps prosecutions for electoral fraud and calling of a GE is growing stronger.

[Tweet Link]

May doesn't want to face 25 by elections.

Yes because Labour are doing so well in the polls.

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 18 Apr 17 8.31pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger Yes because Labour are doing so well in the polls. Twice now you've completely ignored the link I've made between electoral fraud prosecutions, by elections and the calling of a GE (despite the fact that May was adamant that there wouldn't be an early one) and posted some random labour jibe. Do you not know how to argue a point?

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 18 Apr 17 8.31pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Yes because Labour are doing so well in the polls.

Twice now you've completely ignored the link I've made between electoral fraud prosecutions, by elections and the calling of a GE (despite the fact that May was adamant that there wouldn't be an early one) and posted some random labour jibe. Do you not know how to argue a point?

elgrande bedford 18 Apr 17 8.51pm
Originally posted by nickgusset Twice now you've completely ignored the link I've made between electoral fraud prosecutions, by elections and the calling of a GE (despite the fact that May was adamant that there wouldn't be an early one) and posted some random labour jibe. Do you not know how to argue a point? If they choose to prosecute then so be it ( think it might be political if they do) but if rules are broken so be it. But how bad is it to spend a bit too much on canvassing ,it's not public money is it,I thought it was the different parties monies,and I am sure all parties have do everything it. always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

elgrande

bedford 18 Apr 17 8.51pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

If they choose to prosecute then so be it ( think it might be political if they do) but if rules are broken so be it.
But how bad is it to spend a bit too much on canvassing
,it's not public money is it,I thought it was the different parties monies,and I am sure all parties have do everything it.

always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

nickgusset Shizzlehurst 18 Apr 17 9.02pm
Originally posted by elgrande If they choose to prosecute then so be it ( think it might be political if they do) but if rules are broken so be it. But how bad is it to spend a bit too much on canvassing ,it's not public money is it,I thought it was the different parties monies,and I am sure all parties have do everything it. You are missing the point. May (and who can blame her) doesn't want to have to fight twenty+ by elections on the back of having mp's disqualified because of fraud. Call a GE and the problem (notwithstanding any action the cps takes - if it is deemed in the public interest) goes away. I hope someone brings this up in PMQ's tomorrow.

nickgusset

Shizzlehurst 18 Apr 17 9.02pm

Originally posted by elgrande

You are missing the point. May (and who can blame her) doesn't want to have to fight twenty+ by elections on the back of having mp's disqualified because of fraud.
Call a GE and the problem (notwithstanding any action the cps takes - if it is deemed in the public interest) goes away.

I hope someone brings this up in PMQ's tomorrow.

elgrande bedford 18 Apr 17 9.06pm
Originally posted by nickgusset You are missing the point. May (and who can blame her) doesn't want to have to fight twenty+ by elections on the back of having mp's disqualified because of fraud. Call a GE and the problem (notwithstanding any action the cps takes - if it is deemed in the public interest) goes away. I hope someone brings this up in PMQ's tomorrow. Not missing any point,I realise all of that but I'm asking what's so wrong with overspending the party's money on campaigning..and I bet labour and all the others have done it. always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

elgrande

bedford 18 Apr 17 9.06pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

I hope someone brings this up in PMQ's tomorrow.

Not missing any point,I realise all of that but I'm asking what's so wrong with overspending the party's money on campaigning..and I bet labour and all the others have done it.

always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

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