What you are saying is meaningless and without basis.

Humans will eat anything to survive if it is available.
We eat meat because we want to and that is all the evidence you need to know that we are made that way. Cultural drivers will make some behave in a certain way but that is usually against our natural urges.

Eating meat - all animal-based products, actually - makes you chronically ill and will eventually kill you. You're going to die eventually anyway, but consuming meat etc. will hurry that along.

We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.

Have you seen a chimp's canines? They are built for eating meat. I sincerely hope your teeth don't look like this...

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We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.

The global meat industry contributes more greenhouse gasses to the atmosphere than the global transportation industry. Meat production is incredibly carbon-intensive. In addition, the world's population of beef cattle (i.e. excluding dairy cattle) eats enough grain to feed a world human population of about 9 billion. South American rainforests are being cut down to make way for cattle, which accelerates the whole disaster.

Conversely, if you cut out the "middle man" and just eat vegetables, we can use the land currently turned over to growing animal feedstock and use that to grow food for human consumption. Removing beef from our diet (doesn't have to be total, we just need to keep it for rare occasions) would allow all that rainforest to be reconstituted (it's been proven that this will happen in a very few years if left to its own devices).

We'd all be healthier, we'd be reducing / eliminating all the chronic illnesses that come from consuming animal products: heart disease, diabetes, cancer. That would in turn relieve the pressure on the healthcare system and save a s***-ton of money there too.

Oh, and we'd slow down global warming considerably and have much cleaner air to breathe. No more carbon-heavy cattle farming - producing livestock that breathe out CO2 and fart methane (a significantly worse greenhouse gas than CO2). We'd be farming vegetables that take in CO2 and express oxygen, don't need to be refrigerated, are far less prone to carry disease and include all the proteins, calcium and other elements that we need (where do you think the cows get their protein and calcium from...?).

Edited by Ray in Houston (05 Sep 2017 3.46pm)

We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.

Also known as science. [Link]

Edited by Ray in Houston (05 Sep 2017 3.49pm)

We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.

And a new Royal baby.

Do what you gotta do Ray.

If you go without certain food stuff, especially meat, which requires more digestion and then suddenly eat them again, you will give your body a shock. People kid themselves about all sorts of medical stuff. You have to do what you think is best.

A little bit of information can be a dangerous thing and too much information can be a constant worry.

No, it isn't. Again, it's called science. They use things like control groups in studies to eliminate other factors.

Yes, it's your choice to eat meat. But it's not your choice to deny the science that says, for example, that the causal link between eating meat and getting cancer is statistically as strong as the causal link between smoking and getting cancer. It's scientifically proven so, until you can prove otherwise, it's a fact.

We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.

I agree that eating a small bit of meat caused a shock to our systems. The whole ecosystem of intestinal bacteria changes once you eliminate meat as your body gets rid of the unnecessary meat-digesting stuff and focuses on veggie-digesting stuff.

However, you cannot deny how I feel and look, nor how my wife feels and looks, on a vegetarian diet. The only downside to it is people like you who feel the need to issue a pre-buttle to vegetarianism despite the fact that I say nothing about it unless asked first.

You're killing yourself with meat, but you seem ok with it and that's none of my business. The global meat industry is the largest single contributor to climate change though, and that's everyone's business, even those who don't think it's real.

We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.

On the whole vegetarians will lead a more healthier life in general. They are unlikely to smoke and drink heavily and they probably are more inclined to keep fit, practice yoga etc. They are often middle class with more comfortable life style and living conditions. It is not just what they eat that perhaps extends their live by a few months.

Edited by hedgehog50 (05 Sep 2017 6.01pm)

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]