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Mapletree Croydon 11 Jan 20 12.05am
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle I asked him to stop having a dig at other posters which he found himself unable to do thus earning himself a yellow card. How much more clarity do you need? I think it needs a VAR check

Mapletree

Croydon 11 Jan 20 12.05am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

I asked him to stop having a dig at other posters which he found himself unable to do thus earning himself a yellow card.

How much more clarity do you need?

I think it needs a VAR check

coulsdoneagle London 11 Jan 20 2.19am
Originally posted by mattteo This "cover for 3 ppsitions" is really overrated. I hardly ever saw players who are very good on multiple positions. One of them is James Milner. Others just "are sent in" in those positions, doesn't mean they are any good. Players shpuld be best at 1 ppsition- the one they play in. That's why there's a starter and a backup for every position. If somehow in a season, both of those are unavailable, then someone fills in. Nathan has 12 matches as right back and some as left back. Not enough to be considered good in 3 positions. Kelly is case and point about why having versatile players is useful. Obviously players have stronger positions, but at his age often players haven’t even settled in to their best position. Schlupp again has performed in 3 distinct roles for us in recent times and it’s made a big difference. I think roy’s system is particularly suited to having those versatile players in the squad because the focus is much more on the teams setup and execution of game plan rather than relying on the natural game of particular players. Either way I think this is a good signing whether he plays exclusively in one position or not. .

coulsdoneagle

London 11 Jan 20 2.19am

Originally posted by mattteo

This "cover for 3 ppsitions" is really overrated. I hardly ever saw players who are very good on multiple positions. One of them is James Milner.

Others just "are sent in" in those positions, doesn't mean they are any good.

Players shpuld be best at 1 ppsition- the one they play in. That's why there's a starter and a backup for every position. If somehow in a season, both of those are unavailable, then someone fills in.

Nathan has 12 matches as right back and some as left back. Not enough to be considered good in 3 positions.

Kelly is case and point about why having versatile players is useful. Obviously players have stronger positions, but at his age often players haven’t even settled in to their best position. Schlupp again has performed in 3 distinct roles for us in recent times and it’s made a big difference. I think roy’s system is particularly suited to having those versatile players in the squad because the focus is much more on the teams setup and execution of game plan rather than relying on the natural game of particular players.

Either way I think this is a good signing whether he plays exclusively in one position or not. .

mattteo 11 Jan 20 12.31pm
I also think Kelly and Schlupp are overrated on 3 position. They're good on tgeir initial position, but I would never play with Kelly as right back (or left back!!) or with Schlupp as attacking winger (or central midfielder). I'd prefer players on those positions who are actually good in them. I can't stress how much the team is lacking with Kelly as fullback (he's a decent center back yes, but not a fullback) or without a better scoring or creative winger than Schlupp in attack.

mattteo

11 Jan 20 12.31pm

I also think Kelly and Schlupp are overrated on 3 position. They're good on tgeir initial position, but I would never play with Kelly as right back (or left back!!) or with Schlupp as attacking winger (or central midfielder).

I'd prefer players on those positions who are actually good in them. I can't stress how much the team is lacking with Kelly as fullback (he's a decent center back yes, but not a fullback) or without a better scoring or creative winger than Schlupp in attack.

Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 11 Jan 20 4.02pm
Originally posted by Willo All I try to do is to provide some relevant information which I believe might be useful. My motivation is not to project myself as some omniscient sage in bouts of self-promotion. Edited by Willo (10 Jan 2020 1.15pm) Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

Cucking Funt

Clapham on the Back 11 Jan 20 4.02pm

Originally posted by Willo

All I try to do is to provide some relevant information which I believe might be useful.
My motivation is not to project myself as some omniscient sage in bouts of self-promotion.

Edited by Willo (10 Jan 2020 1.15pm)

Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

DANGERCLOSE London 14 Jan 20 1.08pm
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Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 14 Jan 20 1.18pm
Originally posted by DANGERCLOSE [Tweet Link] Interesting! Thanks for posting. Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

Nicholas91

The Democratic Republic of Kent 14 Jan 20 1.18pm

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Interesting! Thanks for posting.

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

thechaddyboy Peterborough 14 Jan 20 1.53pm
Originally posted by DANGERCLOSE [Tweet Link] fingers crossed on this one, welcome addition amongst so much dross we've been already linked with this window Red & Blue since 73'

thechaddyboy

Peterborough 14 Jan 20 1.53pm

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fingers crossed on this one, welcome addition amongst so much dross we've been already linked with this window

Red & Blue since 73'

taylors lovechild 26 Jan 20 12.31pm
This story has resurfaced again. Supposedly we're going to (or have) bid £4 million [Link] At that price seems a much better gamble than paying £10-15 million for KWP and I imagine his wages would be lower. I don't know as he would be first-team ready from the off though.

taylors lovechild

26 Jan 20 12.31pm

This story has resurfaced again. Supposedly we're going to (or have) bid £4 million [Link]

At that price seems a much better gamble than paying £10-15 million for KWP and I imagine his wages would be lower. I don't know as he would be first-team ready from the off though.

Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 26 Jan 20 12.45pm
Originally posted by taylors lovechild This story has resurfaced again. Supposedly we're going to (or have) bid £4 million [Link] At that price seems a much better gamble than paying £10-15 million for KWP and I imagine his wages would be lower. I don't know as he would be first-team ready from the off though. I concur. £4million is peanuts these days. He’s proved himself at championship level, relatively young with room to improve and can play in positions where we lack depth. Even if it all went wrong after I would always say was worth a pop, the kind of signings we’ve needed to be making. Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

Nicholas91

The Democratic Republic of Kent 26 Jan 20 12.45pm

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

This story has resurfaced again. Supposedly we're going to (or have) bid £4 million [Link]

At that price seems a much better gamble than paying £10-15 million for KWP and I imagine his wages would be lower. I don't know as he would be first-team ready from the off though.

I concur.

£4million is peanuts these days. He’s proved himself at championship level, relatively young with room to improve and can play in positions where we lack depth.

Even if it all went wrong after I would always say was worth a pop, the kind of signings we’ve needed to be making.

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

mattteo 26 Jan 20 3.36pm
Originally posted by taylors lovechild This story has resurfaced again. Supposedly we're going to (or have) bid £4 million [Link] At that price seems a much better gamble than paying £10-15 million for KWP and I imagine his wages would be lower. I don't know as he would be first-team ready from the off though. Good price. He's not a right back though. He will be center back with Cahil and Tomkins (starters) and Sakho (27 million club investment. Probably means Kelly will be given up to a Championship club in the summer.

mattteo

26 Jan 20 3.36pm

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

This story has resurfaced again. Supposedly we're going to (or have) bid £4 million [Link]

At that price seems a much better gamble than paying £10-15 million for KWP and I imagine his wages would be lower. I don't know as he would be first-team ready from the off though.

Good price. He's not a right back though. He will be center back with Cahil and Tomkins (starters) and Sakho (27 million club investment.

Probably means Kelly will be given up to a Championship club in the summer.

Hudsoneagle 26 Jan 20 4.02pm
He’s a bit short for me. So unless he turns out to be world class then let’s hope he nails down a career at full back.

Hudsoneagle

26 Jan 20 4.02pm

He’s a bit short for me. So unless he turns out to be world class then let’s hope he nails down a career at full back.

ambrose77 wallington 26 Jan 20 4.26pm
Originally posted by mattteo Good price. He's not a right back though. He will be center back with Cahil and Tomkins (starters) and Sakho (27 million club investment. Probably means Kelly will be given up to a Championship club in the summer. Not sure where you got him being a centre back from? Every game he’s played has been at right back or covering for left back! Been very impressed every game I’ve seen him play for West Brom and I remember watching his debut at forest and thinking he reminded me abit of awb, solid well timed tackles. Really hope we can pull this one off and another winger before the deadline.

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wallington 26 Jan 20 4.26pm

Originally posted by mattteo

Good price. He's not a right back though. He will be center back with Cahil and Tomkins (starters) and Sakho (27 million club investment.

Probably means Kelly will be given up to a Championship club in the summer.

Not sure where you got him being a centre back from? Every game he’s played has been at right back or covering for left back!

Been very impressed every game I’ve seen him play for West Brom and I remember watching his debut at forest and thinking he reminded me abit of awb, solid well timed tackles. Really hope we can pull this one off and another winger before the deadline.

Hudsoneagle 26 Jan 20 4.30pm
The reason why people are calling him a centre back is because he has played there in the youth set up. AWB was a winger in the youth set up...now he’s a 50m right back. It’s all completely irrelevant where people have played at youth level. Some people like to think they know better of course.

Hudsoneagle

26 Jan 20 4.30pm

The reason why people are calling him a centre back is because he has played there in the youth set up. AWB was a winger in the youth set up...now he’s a 50m right back. It’s all completely irrelevant where people have played at youth level.

Some people like to think they know better of course.

Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 26 Jan 20 4.42pm
Originally posted by Hudsoneagle The reason why people are calling him a centre back is because he has played there in the youth set up. AWB was a winger in the youth set up...now he’s a 50m right back. It’s all completely irrelevant where people have played at youth level. Some people like to think they know better of course. I am not aware of Ferguson playing as a central defender for WBA this season. I am of the belief that their main central pairing has been Bartley and Ajayi, with Hegazi playing second fiddle to them. I think these days Ferguson is considered as a right-back who can if required play as a left-back.He is certainly not afraid of taking the ball forward and having a shot. Edited by Willo (26 Jan 2020 4.47pm)

Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 26 Jan 20 4.42pm

Originally posted by Hudsoneagle

Some people like to think they know better of course.

I am not aware of Ferguson playing as a central defender for WBA this season.
I am of the belief that their main central pairing has been Bartley and Ajayi, with Hegazi playing second fiddle to them.
I think these days Ferguson is considered as a right-back who can if required play as a left-back.He is certainly not afraid of taking the ball forward and having a shot.

Edited by Willo (26 Jan 2020 4.47pm)

samprior Hamburg 26 Jan 20 4.47pm
Originally posted by Hudsoneagle The reason why people are calling him a centre back is because he has played there in the youth set up. AWB was a winger in the youth set up...now he’s a 50m right back. It’s all completely irrelevant where people have played at youth level. Some people like to think they know better of course. Think he's also been tipped by those who know him well to end up as a center half. However he's clearly gained his top level experience as a fullback. For me I think it'd be great to have a player come in who can continue to build his his experience as a fullback and if he ends up becoming a better CB for us then great as it's easier to replace a RB (I'm aware of the irony here but I do believe that's the true, we just love to make heavy weather of things)

samprior

Hamburg 26 Jan 20 4.47pm

Originally posted by Hudsoneagle

Some people like to think they know better of course.

Think he's also been tipped by those who know him well to end up as a center half. However he's clearly gained his top level experience as a fullback.

For me I think it'd be great to have a player come in who can continue to build his his experience as a fullback and if he ends up becoming a better CB for us then great as it's easier to replace a RB (I'm aware of the irony here but I do believe that's the true, we just love to make heavy weather of things)

Hudsoneagle 26 Jan 20 5.02pm
Originally posted by Willo This post has been merged from a topic called 'Nathan Ferguson (Mail)' by Midlands Eagle I have a feeling that Ferguson started off as a central defender but has played in both full-back positions for WBA, mainly at right-back. Ferguson reminds Slaven Bilic of Declan Rice whom he managed at W.Ham,adding that whilst Ferguson is a teenager he has the maturity of someone in their mid to late 20s.

Hudsoneagle

26 Jan 20 5.02pm

Originally posted by Willo

This post has been merged from a topic called 'Nathan Ferguson (Mail)' by Midlands Eagle

I have a feeling that Ferguson started off as a central defender but has played in both full-back positions for WBA, mainly at right-back.

Ferguson reminds Slaven Bilic of Declan Rice whom he managed at W.Ham,adding that whilst Ferguson is a teenager he has the maturity of someone in their mid to late 20s.

Petereagle Brockley 26 Jan 20 5.42pm
Originally posted by Hudsoneagle [Link] Hopefully a £4m opening bid would get us a very promising defender for £5-6m?

Petereagle

Brockley 26 Jan 20 5.42pm

Originally posted by Hudsoneagle

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Hopefully a £4m opening bid would get us a very promising defender for £5-6m?

Spiderman Horsham 26 Jan 20 5.50pm
Originally posted by mattteo Good price. He's not a right back though. He will be center back with Cahil and Tomkins (starters) and Sakho (27 million club investment. Probably means Kelly will be given up to a Championship club in the summer. He has played RB and LB in the Championship. We will sign him as FB and won’t get rid of one of the best squad players we have in Kelly. Dann and possibly Sakho will leave, Woods to come back in Summer

Spiderman

Horsham 26 Jan 20 5.50pm

Originally posted by mattteo

Good price. He's not a right back though. He will be center back with Cahil and Tomkins (starters) and Sakho (27 million club investment.

Probably means Kelly will be given up to a Championship club in the summer.

He has played RB and LB in the Championship. We will sign him as FB and won’t get rid of one of the best squad players we have in Kelly.
Dann and possibly Sakho will leave, Woods to come back in Summer

Eagleder1 26 Jan 20 6.08pm
Sorry to say I don’t think it will ever happen certainly not for that money. This will be another one of those we didn’t quite get over the line!

Eagleder1

26 Jan 20 6.08pm

Sorry to say I don’t think it will ever happen certainly not for that money. This will be another one of those we didn’t quite get over the line!

Dodger Lane Merstham 26 Jan 20 6.17pm
We will not get any signings over the line . We are skint . We are only capable of getting loan players in . Truth hurts but fact . Roy has been sold a tall story if he thinks SP will put his hand in his pocket A Lie travels round the world quicker than a man can put his trousers on [Link]

Dodger Lane

Merstham 26 Jan 20 6.17pm

We will not get any signings over the line . We are skint . We are only capable of getting loan players in .
Truth hurts but fact . Roy has been sold a tall story if he thinks SP will put his hand in his pocket

A Lie travels round the world quicker than a man can put his trousers on

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