‘Labour voters need guidance’ is what Blair is saying. They’d love that. He may as well say they’re thick and they need a me.

COYP

To be fair to him, they all did. Labour Career path used to be land a northen tribal seat and pop up their once or twice a year to pat the natives on the head whilst swanning around N1 and making crass jokes about their consituencents.

It was UKIP that started the rot. People began to vote for them in the Euro's elections and that almost Pavlovian conditioning in terms of ticking the Labour box began to weaken. Hard research to back that up as well.

But loving his work this morning. Zero understanding about the impact of the second referendum madness. Apparently it was all down to Corbyn. LOL.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

Well quite. And with both Starmer and Thornberry now very much in the race, the delicious irony of it all is beginning to taste wonderous.

Here we have the very two people INSTRUMENTAL in pushing the second referendum stance that got them spanked now being touted as the saviours.

You could not make this s*** up and confirms how myopic and narcissistic these R2's truly are. Especially Starmer. Moaning because he was side-lined in the election.

Actually rather gutted about that because I suspect him lecturing us proles about how we were really rather stupid voting leave and that we would be better off doing what the likes of him told us might have helped a few more Labour seats fall. Oh well, you cannot have everything.

Edited by Matov (18 Dec 2019 12.50pm)

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

LOL. A lot of hot air, from both exits I suspect.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

The Tories would be delighted with any of the runners and riders now listed for Labour leader.

Thornberry is almost as slimey and irritating as Diane Abbott. I hope Caroline Flint successfully defends her case in the courts.
Keir Starmer? A knight and a millionaire as a Labour leader would be a first.

They need someone who is quick-witted, sensible and (especially) articulate to survive the hurly burly of Parliament.

Still think that Stephen Kinnock would be good for them and give Boris a run for his money at the despatch box.

Unlike his father he is too sensible to be selected and
one of the younger women will get it is my guess.

Man and boy Palace since my first game in 1948 sitting on my dad's shoulders

Following on from the above...if the Tories pump money into the Northern powerhouse they'll cement a furter term as well on the back of it...it'd be like taking candy from a baby.... I like the cut of Nandy's 'jib' but if Gloria de Piero was back and became the leader..... (drifts off whistfully)

Edited by Lyons550 (18 Dec 2019 3.58pm)

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Certainly one of the more interesting issues over the next 5 years. Cummings is a native Northerner (Durham I believe) and has a special loathing for what he see's as the Metropolitian elite so if he is running the project then it could be an interesting strategy.

Labour must be giving thanks for the Brexit party. Without them the massacre would have been even worse. Their own party chairman barely survived.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

Tom Lehrer said satire died when Kissinger won the Nobel Peace prize - looking at the candidates for Labour leader it appears practical jokes are alive and well.

No 1 tweet on Twitter is:

#Corbynwasright

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Not good news for any moderate candidates. If you want a laugh read some of the comments the election was merely an irrelevant inconvenience to them.

One more point

Another poster pointed out that in the red wall areas people would not even think about voting anything but Labour. I suspect anyone who did vote Tory kept their mouths shut.

Now that the wall has been broken Tory is no longer a dirty word and the longer that goes on the easier it will be for the voters to pick and choose their parties. Labour may get back in but I doubt they will ever have the knee jerk vote back.

It's like your local pub the governor has to work hard to build up the clientele however a new governor can lose his customers in weeks and never get them back.

Edited by Badger11 (19 Dec 2019 9.53am)

One more point