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Matov Flag 05 Dec 20 9.28pm

Originally posted by DanH

So taking the knee didn’t exist before BLM did it?


Edited by DanH (05 Dec 2020 9.25pm)


If the national anthem was played before each game and players chose to then kneel through that it might be linked to what happened in the US prior to this BLM nonsense.

But what we have seen in the UK is a direct act of support for the BLM movement. Out of interest, do you oppose BLM? Would you take a knee in support of BLM? And if not, does that make you a racist?


 


"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 05 Dec 20 9.28pm

Around 150 racist incidents at football last year according to the HO and now apparently nearly 2000 in one go today.

Great progress.

 


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DanH Flag SW2 05 Dec 20 9.31pm

Originally posted by Nicholas91

Around 150 racist incidents at football last year according to the HO and now apparently nearly 2000 in one go today.

Great progress.

When has anyone said it was all 2,000?

 

Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 05 Dec 20 9.32pm

Originally posted by DanH

When has anyone said it was all 2,000?

Check linekers tweet

 


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AuntyAnne70 Flag Tunbridge WElls 05 Dec 20 9.41pm

That isn't exactly what he said....but hey ho

 

Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 05 Dec 20 9.42pm

Originally posted by AuntyAnne70

That isn't exactly what he said....but hey ho

Eh?

 


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DanH Flag SW2 05 Dec 20 9.44pm

Originally posted by Matov


If the national anthem was played before each game and players chose to then kneel through that it might be linked to what happened in the US prior to this BLM nonsense.

But what we have seen in the UK is a direct act of support for the BLM movement. Out of interest, do you oppose BLM? Would you take a knee in support of BLM? And if not, does that make you a racist?

It’s a reaction to the George Floyd murder and that black lives’ matter. Not the political organisation. Do you honestly believe that every single football player is doing it because of a political cause in the US?

I would take a knee alongside the other pros over here, yes. Do I support everything the political movement BLM stand for? No.


 

dreamwaverider Flag London 05 Dec 20 9.49pm

Really hope our lot do the same. And I’m not racist.

 

DanH Flag SW2 05 Dec 20 9.52pm

Originally posted by dreamwaverider

Really hope our lot do the same. And I’m not racist.

So you would be happy with our club getting global publicity for booing an anti-racist gesture would you?

And I’m not sure you get to qualify your own statements like that.

 

Matov Flag 05 Dec 20 9.53pm

The footballers take the knee in support of Black Lives Matter. BLM. Why do you want to water that down? Why do you think you are privileged enough to insist that the words start with lower-case letters? Dont black lives deserve capitalising?

That is why they had the words on the back of their shirts. That is why they have the banners in the grounds.

BLM is political. And that is what the kneeling is about. Honestly, you whiteys are always taking things from other cultures and twisting them up. No wonder they hate us.

 


"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

dreamwaverider Flag London 05 Dec 20 9.58pm

Really hope our lot do the same. And I’m not racist.

 

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 05 Dec 20 10.02pm

Originally posted by Matov


Utter nonsense. Taking the knee is that matter is a show of direct support for Black Lives Matter. It is all part of the wider campaign of support the Premier League has organised.

Taking the knee is in direct support of BLM. What part of that do you struggle to comprehend?

It's your claim that's the nonsense. Few people are even aware that there is a political movement which uses "Black Lives Matter" as it's title and exploits the empathy that has developed over the events earlier this year.

It's the sentiment that black lives matter, and not that movement, that is involved and the players are uniting in a joint show to show they all care.

Whether it makes things better or has run its course, are other considerations, but the motivations of those involved ought not be questioned and those who boo them deserve all the condemnation they are getting.

 


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Nicholas91 Flag The Democratic Republic of Kent 05 Dec 20 10.02pm

Originally posted by DanH

So you would be happy with our club getting global publicity for booing an anti-racist gesture would you?

And I’m not sure you get to qualify your own statements like that.

This is precisely the reason most will not.

Dare I say Millwall are the only set of fans with the b***ocks to do it and to conclude the sentiments are limited solely to the supporters of that club is at best naive.

 


Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

Matov Flag 05 Dec 20 10.08pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

It's your claim that's the nonsense. Few people are even aware that there is a political movement which uses "Black Lives Matter" as it's title and exploits the empathy that has developed over the events earlier this year.

It's the sentiment that black lives matter, and not that movement, that is involved and the players are uniting in a joint show to show they all care.

Whether it makes things better or has run its course, are other considerations, but the motivations of those involved ought not be questioned and those who boo them deserve all the condemnation they are getting.

This is beyond delusional. What did the players have on the back of their shirts? What did the banners inside the footgrounds proclaim? Black Lives Matter. BLM. s***, I think its even trade marked.

You really are the worst kind of white person. Me, I loathe BLM and I am sure I am not on their Kwanzaa card list either but at least I have enough respect to acknowledge them as a active political movement.

But you? You cannot even do that, instead trying to minimise its impact. Why on earth would you do that?

 


"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 05 Dec 20 10.09pm

Originally posted by DanH

So you would be happy with our club getting global publicity for booing an anti-racist gesture would you?

And I’m not sure you get to qualify your own statements like that.

Thanks for confirming that this crap is perpetuated by spreading fear.

Think like us or else. How evolved.

 

Matov Flag 05 Dec 20 10.13pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Thanks for confirming that this crap is perpetuated by spreading fear.

Think like us or else. How evolved.


It's actually worse than that. They don't even want to acknowledge what the kneeling is all about. Instead wanting to turn it into some feel good Pepsi advert where we all kneel and weave daisys into each others hair.

As opposed to wanting to defund the police, f*** up the family structure even more than it is and make us all work on collective farms and s*** before starving to death.

It is BLM. Not blm. And shame on anybody who refuses to at least acknowledge that. The real racists in all of this.

 


"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

DanH Flag SW2 05 Dec 20 10.14pm

Originally posted by Nicholas91

This is precisely the reason most will not.

Dare I say Millwall are the only set of fans with the b***ocks to do it and to conclude the sentiments are limited solely to the supporters of that club is at best naive.

But most will not do it because they know it’s wrong. Not because the Palace PR team have had a quiet word and said ‘you know what mate, this might not be a good look for the brand’.

You can not be in agreement with it completely and what it stands for. But to actively boo it is to say you believe the opposite in what it is for.

 

Eaglecoops Flag CR3 05 Dec 20 10.14pm

Originally posted by DanH

So you would be happy with our club getting global publicity for booing an anti-racist gesture would you?

And I’m not sure you get to qualify your own statements like that.

Dan, you are either winding everyone up or you have a very simplistic view of what is going on. You choose to ignore that virtually everyone on here has said they support booting out racism but you still bang on about support for an organisation that generates more hate than it does reconciliation. Have you ever stopped to think that the players should reconsider how they approach booting out racism so it appeals to everyone rather than something which is currently dividing opinion.

 

DanH Flag SW2 05 Dec 20 10.15pm

Originally posted by Matov


It's actually worse than that. They don't even want to acknowledge what the kneeling is all about. Instead wanting to turn it into some feel good Pepsi advert where we all kneel and weave daisys into each others hair.

As opposed to wanting to defund the police, f*** up the family structure even more than it is and make us all work on collective farms and s*** before starving to death.

It is BLM. Not blm. And shame on anybody who refuses to at least acknowledge that. The real racists in all of this.

Again, ask any of the players doing it if the above is what they are doing it for.

 

DanH Flag SW2 05 Dec 20 10.16pm

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

Dan, you are either winding everyone up or you have a very simplistic view of what is going on. You choose to ignore that virtually everyone on here has said they support booting out racism but you still bang on about support for an organisation that generates more hate than it does reconciliation. Have you ever stopped to think that the players should reconsider how they approach booting out racism so it appeals to everyone rather than something which is currently dividing opinion.

Again, ask the players why they are doing it. It is not for the organisation.

 

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