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 BelfastEagle  06 Feb 24 6.03pm |
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Originally posted by Jacey
If it is true that Olise is out for a minimum of two months,then probably down to that useless old man's very poor decision making,bringing Michael on when we had irretrievably lost the game and probably costing our place in the Premier League without this irreplaceable talent.
Two months back for 10 mins again and his season will be done. ….thats the likely scenario.
I wouldn’t have brought him on ….but having said that he’s either fit to play and on the bench or he’s not fit to play and not on the bench. You don’t allow half fit players to be selected….what on earth are the physio staff doing it’s madness.
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Rachid Rachid Rachid  06 Feb 24 6.16pm |
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Originally posted by BelfastEagle
Two months back for 10 mins again and his season will be done. ….thats the likely scenario.
I wouldn’t have brought him on ….but having said that he’s either fit to play and on the bench or he’s not fit to play and not on the bench. You don’t allow half fit players to be selected….what on earth are the physio staff doing it’s madness.
Olise shouldn't have been there at all if there was an issue during the game against Sheffield United four games prior. As you say he was either fit to play or he wasn't. Clearly he wasn't.
If he felt anything at all in his hamstring against Sheffield United then there's not a chance he plays four days later. And unless Roy completely ignored their advice or put huge pressure on them they shoulder the the majority of the blame. Roy still should have known better than to risk him.
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Palacesince64  Edinburgh 06 Feb 24 7.50pm |
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Originally posted by Rachid Rachid Rachid
Olise shouldn't have been there at all if there was an issue during the game against Sheffield United four games prior. As you say he was either fit to play or he wasn't. Clearly he wasn't.
If he felt anything at all in his hamstring against Sheffield United then there's not a chance he plays four days later. And unless Roy completely ignored their advice or put huge pressure on them they shoulder the the majority of the blame. Roy still should have known better than to risk him.
Never sure who Roy is referring to when he talks about “medics”. Given his relatively recent surgery and the discomfort he’s had since then it should be the surgical rehab team and as a former rehab consultant I can’t imagine a trained specialist doctor offering the suggestion he was fit enough for half a game especially coming on cold at half time when everyone else has had 45 minutes under their belt.
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| Knightstar Guildford 10 Feb 24 10.58pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'Why do we keep getting these injuries?' by becky
I know the busy schedule in the Premier League and other competitions means the players play far too frequently, without adequate time to rest and recover. But why are so many of our players suffering from serious injuries such as hamstrings? I know a lot of people think that part of the problem is that our squad isn't deep enough and Roy keeps picking the same players and not rotating the squad. But is there a more serious problem with our training routines not adequately preparing players for these demanding encounters? Are our players not fit enough? I recall under Vieira that one of the criticisms of the team just before he got the sack, was that our team ran the least in the Premier League. I wonder how it is now and I wouldn't be surprised to find that we are again near the bottom of the league on this stat. Maybe we need to review our medical team and our whole approach to sports science because clearly something is wrong.
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| The Yorkshire Eagle Great Ouseburn, N Yorkshire 11 Feb 24 8.10am |
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There is a mix of ineptitude and poor management by all concerned here, IMO.
IF, as had been stated by ‘the medical team’ that Olise’ was fit enough to play, then why not start him, especially against Brighton who were coming into the game off a heavy defeat? We all agree bringing him on when the game was lost made no sense, as was keeping him on until 85 mins or so against the Blades when 3-1 up. Both decision make whoever had final say culpable. I question the medical teams competence as he was clearly not fully ready, and Roy et al who ‘did a Boris’ and were ‘guided by the medical science’’, but screwed up by bringing him on when 0-3 down. Likely as not it wouldn’t have made a difference had he been started, but at least we wouldn’t now be questioning Roy and co for their decision.
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| Knightstar Guildford 11 Feb 24 8.38am |
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I think more of the blame for these injuries lies with our training routines and these need careful scrutiny. As I said above, I suspect our players lack fitness and I bet our players are amongst the lowest in the division for distances run.
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| mtp1958 Oswestry 11 Feb 24 8.47am |
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we train the players as athletes instead of footballers the more sprints you do the more likely that you will damage a muscle , sprinters don't do half as much running in training as footballers do in a match ,
you know as a player if you are ok if the physio doesn't see you flitch when tested they can only go by the data the player shows , yes x-ray but will only show a tear not anything else , and as said by some its not just our club that have this issue ,
lot todo with VAR standing around for 5 mins waiting for that , is not good , i do speak from experience as i got older the hamstring started playing up more and i was a quick , and i had a friend from the age of 20 had his hamstring going alot , spent alot on the bench and didnt come right until nearer 30 , so wrap them up in cotton wool and then you will be complaining that we are not playing them its a no win
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| Norbury Old Git London 11 Feb 24 12.49pm |
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Part of the reason for the winter break was to help players to recover from injuries by a period of relaxation. The Everton replay interfered with the break and this was followed three days later by the Arsenal match. With no extended holiday and having 9 full days before the Sheffield match why did Roy see it necessary to recommence training on the Monday after the 5 nil drubbing rather than give the team a few more recovery days?
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| Eaglehamster Storrington 15 Feb 24 8.52pm |
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From what I can ascertain, Pilates is a no-brainier as a method for improving many aspects of a person’s physicality, especially for footballers.
I somehow doubt this figures in Palace’s training. Anyone here know.?
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| Brinscalleagle2 Brinscall 15 Feb 24 9.39pm |
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I have mentioned this elsewhere my grandson is a data analyst at a Championship club. He mentioned that most hamstrings occur whilst flat out sprinting in a game. He mentioned that in his experience sprinting as such is rarely part of any training sessions and as such all footballers become vulnerable to this type of injury. Just a point for consideration.
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