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The groover Danbury 16 Feb 24 2.41pm | |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
Yes, they are. This current government have handled the unions appallingly and overseen a major resurgence in unionism. We are on our 6th Tory PM in 5 years, each with a nice flip and a flop in policy and direction of travel. You cling onto decade old Labour examples of failures, whilst sticking your fingers in your ears about the very current failings of the Conservatives. This obsession with a hypothetical Labour government, whilst we live through objectively one of the worst governments we have ever had, is just nonsense.
Sorry but I voted labour when I was 18. Income tax went up to 33% and NI went up as well. I was an apprentice with a young family and all the promises about looking after the poorest were just BS. Never again. I missed out car drivers being hit hard as well.
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EverybodyDannsNow SE19 16 Feb 24 2.54pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
The current government has stood up to unions. They’ve stood up to unions and now we have 100,000+ public sector vacancies, and absolutely nothing state-run functions as it should. And still the strikes continue. They’ve done little to bring immigration down. Ah of course, there are no other global factors when Labour have been in power.
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EverybodyDannsNow SE19 16 Feb 24 2.57pm | |
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Originally posted by The groover
Sorry but I voted labour when I was 18. Income tax went up to 33% and NI went up as well. I was an apprentice with a young family and all the promises about looking after the poorest were just BS. Never again. I missed out car drivers being hit hard as well. Sorry but you’re quite literally proving my point - you’re clinging onto examples of government incompetence from decades ago as more relevant than the very government incompetence we are living through currently. This is the most incompetent government we have ever had.
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Hrolf The Ganger 16 Feb 24 2.59pm | |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
They’ve stood up to unions and now we have 100,000+ public sector vacancies, and absolutely nothing state-run functions as it should. And still the strikes continue. They’ve done little to bring immigration down. Ah of course, there are no other global factors when Labour have been in power.
That seals it. You really are deluded.
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EverybodyDannsNow SE19 16 Feb 24 3.10pm | |
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We could be living in a barren wasteland, mass homelessness and unemployment, the country starving on rations as the rule of law breaks down… and some boomer would still be sat there saying ‘can you imagine it was Labour!?’
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Stirlingsays 16 Feb 24 3.29pm | |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
We could be living in a barren wasteland, mass homelessness and unemployment, the country starving on rations as the rule of law breaks down… and some boomer would still be sat there saying ‘can you imagine it was Labour!?’ Are you describing Tower Hamlets?
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steeleye20 Croydon 16 Feb 24 4.07pm | |
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The tories have busted Britain. 'If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, then it is a duck'.
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JRW2 Dulwich 16 Feb 24 4.08pm | |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
They’ve stood up to unions and now we have 100,000+ public sector vacancies, and absolutely nothing state-run functions as it should. And still the strikes continue. 'twas ever thus.
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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 16 Feb 24 4.09pm | |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
We could be living in a barren wasteland, mass homelessness and unemployment, the country starving on rations as the rule of law breaks down… and some boomer would still be sat there saying ‘can you imagine it was Labour!?’ You understand a huge part of the electorate. No amount of rational discussion will ever make them change their political flag,
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The groover Danbury 16 Feb 24 4.22pm | |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
Sorry but you’re quite literally proving my point - you’re clinging onto examples of government incompetence from decades ago as more relevant than the very government incompetence we are living through currently. This is the most incompetent government we have ever had. Never said this lot aren't incompetent but better the devil you know than one you are pretty sure will be worse.
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cryrst The garden of England 16 Feb 24 4.41pm | |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
Sorry but you’re quite literally proving my point - you’re clinging onto examples of government incompetence from decades ago as more relevant than the very government incompetence we are living through currently. This is the most incompetent government we have ever had. So labour won’t be labour this time round and a change is as good as a rest.
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The groover Danbury 16 Feb 24 4.52pm | |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
The tories have busted Britain. 'If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, then it is a duck'.
UK debt as a percentage of GDP sky rocketed from 35% to 75% in the final two years of the last labour government. It can't just be turned off like a tap. Without covid and the additional financial issues that caused, the UK would be sitting pretty. In 2018 the uk borrowed £50b in 2019 £68b in 2020 it was £330b. There is your issue. Or you could do the 3 monkeys and pretend covid never happened. Without covid UK debt v GDP would be around 60%. Your statement is incorrect.
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