Camarasa was a sick note with a bad attitude who had his own medical adviser. It is telling that his parent club were loaning him despite struggling in the league.

Meyer isn’t good enough so why would Roy give him a run of games in central midfield when premier league points are so precious ? In fact he failed to impose himself against 10 man Grimsby when played centrally. Similarly poor against Colchester.

Meyer was given a chance at the start of the season and was weak and wasteful when presented with some good openings against Everton and anonymous against Sheffield Utd. He was dropped and we then beat Man Utd and Villa.

And in my opinion it's a No. Football is a game of opinions after all! But let's look at some of the reasons -

a coach of huge experience who knows football more than most of us could ever dream of
a coach who doesn't panic under pressure. How many people would have walked into Palace after 7 games, no points, no goals and comfortably kept us up
(c) tactically astute. Look at the wins over Man City, Arsenal, Man Utd - to name a few
(d) the players respect him and his methods. No hint of dressing room issues have emerged under Roy

Of course, the past 5 games have been pretty dreadful but it needs to be balanced in the round. We were safe with 8 games to go and the circumstances of Covid make the games feel like friendlies. Roy knows the squad needs freshening up as he has said so often enough; he also knows the kind of younger players who are likely to work. I would certainly trust his judgement in the market and its most unlikely he would have gone after the likes of Benteke or Sakko - two of the three big earners - in my judgement.

Why would he do that, he has done a miraculous job with the squad, how can we be so awful with backing a manager that is Palace through and through. We can beat Moan.U tonight they were poor at the end against Southampton who I thought looked extremely average with some dreadful passing and we can beat Wolves in the same way we beat them last season, Spurs look awful.

We should back our manager.

The big advantage they have is that they have striker who can score more than 20 goals this season on his own compared our 30 for the whole team!

Backing a manager regardless of performance is just silly - anyone still making out criticisms of Hodgson are unjustified has got their head in the sand... fair enough if you don’t think it warrants a sacking yet, but there are glaring holes which undeniably deserve criticism.

It will be interesting to compare Saints performance v United yesterday with ours... I thought they were excellent on the whole; pressed aggressively and racked up more possession, more shots, more shots on target and more corners than the home side. Also thoroughly entertaining to watch.

Do people consider Southampton’s squad so superior to ours that we couldn’t dream of doing that? Is it so far fetched for us to approach a game like that?

Certainly soporific and turgid at times but we will be in the PL again next season so as far as the 'Board' is concerned the end has justified the means."Happy days" for them.

It is our goalscoring and making the most of opportunities that makes us look so much worse then we are, frustration kills any enjoyment ..last night Southampton played in a very similar fashion to us when we beat moan.U 2-1 at the start of the season and it was extremely frustrating with all their sloppy passing when in great situations Redmond was awful particularly I thought, but they have a good solid goalscorer in Ings and he makes them look good purely because he scores consistently.

The Man U game was a fluke. Even though I would say 3 defencive midfielders would be the correct choice against them. Ayew scoring with our first chance then a sucker punch whilst they were hunting for a winner.

We beat 10 men Aston Villa 1-0 with them having a late goal ruled out by VAR. It wasn't impressive.

Against Everton we left Zaha on the bench. Effectively taking off one attacking option for another. Meyer was kept out by Pickford a couple of times. If he was that bad, then Camerasa was sat on the bench as an unused sub.

He got 10 minutes v Sheffield United.

That Grimsbey game was a Hodgson special harking back to the days when he bored everyone off watching England. The only player who looked half decent that game was Reidewald in the holding midfield position. But its a mystery as to why you'd only play 1 striker against a team who are going to shove everyone behind the ball. Having said that, we did have over 30 shots, it's a bit of a freak occourance. Had an early one gone in it might have been a completely different story.

Broadly I agree, but it’s largely irrelevant when looking at a performance like yesterday. Their success came from how they approached the game, not any individual moment/player.

We remain in the PL despite our style of football rather than because of it. That style has run it’s course and I do not believe it will be successful next season. I’d also prefer not to watch that style for another season.