This is an extraordinarily patronising paragraph, so I'll respond in the same tone.

For your benefit Mr Steely Eye, at the time of us entering the Common Market the UK was "the sick man of Europe", and needed trade more than ever. The idea of the Common Market was to remove tariffs so that we could all trade together. Great. Battle won. Economy boomed.

Since then, we have been restricted to an EU-only trade deal, mainly with countries much poorer than us as the club grew (without the consent of the British people) and we had to accept unlimited immigration from said club. Now, we are again removing restrictions so that we can once more prosper by making free trade deals with more countries. To suit us.

Both the decision to take us in to the Common Market, and the one to take us out, were correct in my opinion because of course it will only be with hindsight that we will truly know.

Edited by We are goin up! (23 Jan 2017 4.58pm)

EFA

Despite the best efforts of the corrupt ECB, Europe is a busted flush Nick.
In a world full of economic uncertainty, we're far better off fighting our own corner and making our own decisions.

Edited by .TUX. (23 Jan 2017 8.29pm)

Still opinion though The jury is still out for me. Not knowing what Brexit will actually look like and mean for us until after negotiations makes it difficult to pass judgement or form opinion.

Interesting times.

Of course the vast majority will want things to go well, and I hope we do well out of it. To wish it leading to disaster just to say told you so is facile.

Democracy is dead. It's only namedropped when it suits the sneering liberal elite and that smug cow known as Gina Miller, who looks down her nose at his ordinary folk.

By spitting on my vote and countless others? Yeah, I'll thank her once she stops harping on about democracy only when it suits her own agenda. I voted Leave (doesn't make me a racist), so I guess my vote doesn't count for anything now.

Edited by Alexi_the_Eagle (24 Jan 2017 10.30am)

That's not her fault, that's the fault of the government that drew up the legislation. And did so sufficiently ambiguously to allow this situation to arise.

The decision today shows that if they had started the process without consulting parliament then they would have been breaking the law.

There's no chance of article 50 not being triggered. Corbyn has instructed Labour MPs to vote in favour and there's only half a dozen Tory MPs at most who would vote against (and actually I suspect even less). So it will pass. And your vote will be heard. Just in the proper democratic way, as per the laws of this country.

Exactly... and the House of Lords is "on message" to.

No decent politician will dare to deny the will of the people as the majority voted for last June.

Idiots like Ken Clarke and Tim Farron are the exception.... even Corbyn understands the importance of giving the people what they want on this issue!