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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 30 Jun 16 10.00pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by blackpalacefan

Most people wouldn't agree that the result should be shelved. It makes the vote pointless. We should respect the outcome now that the people have narrowly decided. Of course depending on the deal leaving could be a bad thing, but until we know what the deal is we won't know if its something that most people feel good or bad about. It's out of our hands now. Admittedly leaving is the gamble short to medium term at least and if it results in a s*** economy for years and with no changes being made to freedom of movement for decades to come it will indeed have been a vote that has dimiished our nation. Right now though anyone that pretends there's any certainty in either camp or adopts a told you so smugness is just guessing. It could work out very well for us if we get what we want. If we don't it could be a disaster.

If we were to re-run the referendum today, what do people think the outcome would be? Would it have changed? If so, then what really is the will of the people?

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 30 Jun 16 10.03pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

If we were to re-run the referendum today, what do people think the outcome would be? Would it have changed? If so, then what really is the will of the people?

Can we discard the Scottish vote then? They claim they want to leave the UK now we've voted leave so it's democratically fair they're not included.

 


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Originally posted by Mapletree

If we were to re-run the referendum today, what do people think the outcome would be? Would it have changed? If so, then what really is the will of the people?

I actually think it'd be the same result. Most people accept that we've had the vote and so are now set on this path. I've spoken to several leave voters who are as worried as remainers about things now but time will tell, it might work out. There's a plus side to everything, if as a nation we messed up due to being misled over claims by either side, then that's something that we get to live with and think about.

In my experience how people feel about things now depends on how much the economy is at the forefront of their mind, the high numbers of immigrants coming in, or just a general dislike of difference and foreigners. People in the first two categories, most people, are definitely concerned to varying degrees because there are big unknowns on both counts, but if it works out those worries may be misplaced. The 'general dislike' people who are all about getting pissed off when they hear a foreign accent or try to get out of ever associating with foreigners or people that 'look foreign' don't care of course, because to them it's all about keeping things 'familiar'. There aren't that many people like that really though thankfully.

Edited by blackpalacefan (30 Jun 2016 10.17pm)

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 30 Jun 16 10.17pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

If we were to re-run the referendum today, what do people think the outcome would be? Would it have changed? If so, then what really is the will of the people?

Yeah, let's just have ten referendum and get an average.

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 30 Jun 16 10.21pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Yeah, let's just have ten referendum and get an average.

Make it like the World Snooker Final. Best of 33. Get Barry Hearn to promote it and reduce the national debt.

 


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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 30 Jun 16 10.25pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Make it like the World Snooker Final. Best of 33. Get Barry Hearn to promote it and reduce the national debt.

I don't know. Let's have a referendum about it.
If you don't like the result you can have another one and ask Don King if he's interested.

 

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View blackpalacefan's Profile blackpalacefan Flag 30 Jun 16 10.27pm Send a Private Message to blackpalacefan Add blackpalacefan as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I don't know. Let's have a referendum about it.
If you don't like the result you can have another one and ask Don King if he's interested.

If we had a snap election that in itself would be a bit like another referendum, but the labour party has fallen apart and only 7 people vote libdem so the result is a foregone conclusion anyway lol

 

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View Stuk's Profile Stuk Flag Top half 30 Jun 16 10.32pm Send a Private Message to Stuk Add Stuk as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Make it like the World Snooker Final. Best of 33. Get Barry Hearn to promote it and reduce the national debt.

There's not enough profit in that since the EU banned tobacco advertising.

 


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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 30 Jun 16 10.33pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by blackpalacefan

If we had a snap election that in itself would be a bit like another referendum, but the labour party has fallen apart and only 7 people vote libdem so the result is a foregone conclusion anyway lol

You'd think so, but look how the referendum went.

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 30 Jun 16 10.46pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by blackpalacefan

I actually think it'd be the same result. Most people accept that we've had the vote and so are now set on this path. I've spoken to several leave voters who are as worried as remainers about things now but time will tell, it might work out. There's a plus side to everything, if as a nation we messed up due to being misled over claims by either side, then that's something that we get to live with and think about.

In my experience how people feel about things now depends on how much the economy is at the forefront of their mind, the high numbers of immigrants coming in, or just a general dislike of difference and foreigners. People in the first two categories, most people, are definitely concerned to varying degrees because there are big unknowns on both counts, but if it works out those worries may be misplaced. The 'general dislike' people who are all about getting pissed off when they hear a foreign accent or try to get out of ever associating with foreigners or people that 'look foreign' don't care of course, because to them it's all about keeping things 'familiar'. There aren't that many people like that really though thankfully.

Edited by blackpalacefan (30 Jun 2016 10.17pm)

I would bet good money the turnout would go up. Not actually sure what the outcome would be but my point is referenda are populist and therefore relatively fickle.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Online Flag 01 Jul 16 7.01am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by blackpalacefan

If the deal is EEA with some freedom of movement changes which is something of a best case scenario, we'll pay almost exactly what we do now anyway so they won't need to pick up on anything.

Edited by blackpalacefan (30 Jun 2016 9.26pm)


Time will tell I suppose. Common sense would be to lessen damage on both sides on trade.

 


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DivingIsNotGood Flag se25 01 Jul 16 7.11am

I was laughed off this thread when I stated there would be a massive recession, and many people will lose their homes.
Soon people will start to take my quotes seriously and realise, no, he's not a nut job after all!

 


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