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 OknotOK  Cockfosters, London 24 Jan 17 12.09pm |
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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted
Because people are lazy and/or uneducated? They only listen to snippets of news and jump to wrong conclusions. It's a pleasure for me to debate with people you - we are from the opposite ends of the political spectrum I suspect, but have common ground quite often. To be fair to them it isn't helped by "Enemies of the States" news headlines like the Mail and the Sun sent out - which were irresponsible. But anyone with a bit of common sense and reading more than two lines should be able to realise that the worst this would do is delay the trigger. People just need to calm down. I still believe it was the wrong decision, but the world isn't going to end because we've taken it. Nor is the entire democratic process being undermined because the actual UK parliament have to debate the most important political decision being taken for years. In fact maybe you're right, maybe people just are stupid and/or easily led sometimes. I give up! Edited by OknotOK (24 Jan 2017 12.09pm)
"It's almost like a moral decision. Except not really cos noone is going to find out," Jez, Peep Show |
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 24 Jan 17 3.17pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
That's good to hear Hoof. So if there is a second referendum and Remain wins by say 51.9% to 48.1% I won't expect to hear any mullarkey Someone will pipe up best out of 3 if that happened. Fact is, mp's are elected to vote for what they think is in their constituent's best interests not necessarily what the may have voted in the referendum. Already seen veiled death threats aimed at remain MPs on twitter. Jo Cox must be turning in her grave.
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| Hoof Hearted 25 Jan 17 12.14pm | |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
That's good to hear Hoof. So if there is a second referendum and Remain wins by say 51.9% to 48.1% I won't expect to hear any mullarkey There won't be a 2nd referendum on the EU. There might be a 2nd Scottish Independence referendum though and I might just move in with my friends in Edinburgh to register and vote YES..... then move back down here again!
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| Part Time James 25 Jan 17 12.20pm |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
When are we going to invade Poland, that's what I want to know. No point, they all live here now. Just kidding of course.
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| Hoof Hearted 25 Jan 17 12.21pm | |
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Originally posted by Sedlescombe
British judges interpret British law and in a parliamentary democracy decide that Parliament is sovereign. Controversial? This is nothing to do with voting leave or remain and everything to do with honouring our democratic processes and opposing the arbitrary power of the executive. Of course the conservatives could have put in a clause into the referendum bill that would have made all this unnecessary. I wonder why the likes of May, IDS, Boris and Gove weren't arguing to make the result binding. Miller deserves a dame hood at the very least for services against democracy. She only raised this issue for personal gain, hoping that her actions would prompt a 2nd referendum and stir the sh1t with the Jocks/Paddys. All she has done has lined the pockets of 8 or so senior Judges with their extortionate fees paid for by our hard earned taxes. She hasn't stopped or delayed article 50... infact her meddling has stiffened the resolve of the Brexiteers and made the Remoaners realise they cannot deny the will of the people. A damehood.... dream on..... she should be sent the Judges' bills the silly interfering cow.
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| Hoof Hearted 25 Jan 17 12.22pm | |
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Why did the Polish bloke cross the road? Because he's got the Chicken's job as well. Just kidding of course.
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| Part Time James 25 Jan 17 12.27pm |
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Originally posted by npn
A little confused on what this is supposed to achieve. Court case and appeal to force the government to go through parliament (fair enough outcome) but all that means is that government will now draw up a very small white paper and it will be passed in days, so all that has happened is to possibly delay the process by a few days? Why didn't the government just raise the white paper anyway - it could have been in by now and save all the expense of the case and appeal. And also, why aren't the liberals up in arms about the use of white paper? Seems well racist to me.
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| Hoof Hearted 25 Jan 17 12.30pm | |
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Originally posted by Part Time James
And also, why aren't the liberals up in arms about the use of white paper? Seems well racist to me. They are too busy "Preparing for Government"? -.-'
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| steeleye20 Croydon 25 Jan 17 1.26pm |
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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted
She only raised this issue for personal gain, hoping that her actions would prompt a 2nd referendum and stir the sh1t with the Jocks/Paddys. All she has done has lined the pockets of 8 or so senior Judges with their extortionate fees paid for by our hard earned taxes. She hasn't stopped or delayed article 50... infact her meddling has stiffened the resolve of the Brexiteers and made the Remoaners realise they cannot deny the will of the people. A damehood.... dream on..... she should be sent the Judges' bills the silly interfering cow. Definitely not its Mrs May who should foot bill for a quite unnecessary court case and appeal and not the public. Mrs. May was caught out trying to bypass parliament so much for returning sovereignity there I thought that was the main aim of leave? Will be interesting to see if she has to go before a committee later on and explain. Wouldn't like to estimate how big the bill will be.
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| Sedlescombe Sedlescombe 25 Jan 17 1.32pm |
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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted
She only raised this issue for personal gain, hoping that her actions would prompt a 2nd referendum and stir the sh1t with the Jocks/Paddys. All she has done has lined the pockets of 8 or so senior Judges with their extortionate fees paid for by our hard earned taxes. She hasn't stopped or delayed article 50... infact her meddling has stiffened the resolve of the Brexiteers and made the Remoaners realise they cannot deny the will of the people. A damehood.... dream on..... she should be sent the Judges' bills the silly interfering cow. If anyone has lined the lawyers pockets it is May who not only disobeyed the law but pursued it to appeal when they appear to have been privately reporting that they expected to lose. Ultimately Miller was right wasnt she.
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| npn Crowborough 25 Jan 17 2.05pm |
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Originally posted by Sedlescombe
If anyone has lined the lawyers pockets it is May who not only disobeyed the law but pursued it to appeal when they appear to have been privately reporting that they expected to lose. Ultimately Miller was right wasnt she. Sadly I agree. The whole thing has been pointless, given the backing May will get to push the white paper through, but it was a poorly thought out idea to pursue it in the court of appeal
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| susmik PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 25 Jan 17 2.15pm |
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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted
There won't be a 2nd referendum on the EU. There might be a 2nd Scottish Independence referendum though and I might just move in with my friends in Edinburgh to register and vote YES..... then move back down here again! I think a lot of people would love to do what you mentioned just to get shot of the little poisoned dwarf that is Nicola Sturgeon she is a pain in the @rse and needs to be taken down a peg or two.
Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky. |
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| Sedlescombe Sedlescombe 25 Jan 17 2.18pm |
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Originally posted by susmik
I think a lot of people would love to do what you mentioned just to get shot of the little poisoned dwarf that is Nicola Sturgeon she is a pain in the @rse and needs to be taken down a peg or two. Politician represents view of people who elected her horror.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 25 Jan 17 3.25pm |
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Originally posted by Sedlescombe
Politician represents view of people who elected her horror. Thing is there's no arguments in complaints about Sturgeon other than Krankie or poisoned dwarf. Same with Dianne Abbott (big fat black woman) Corbyn Geograpyteacher etc etc. No substance just bile. Poor debating tactic that ensures the poster has no credibility.
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| elgrande bedford 25 Jan 17 3.42pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Thing is there's no arguments in complaints about Sturgeon other than Krankie or poisoned dwarf. Same with Dianne Abbott (big fat black woman) Corbyn Geograpyteacher etc etc. No substance just bile. Poor debating tactic that ensures the poster has no credibility. Where shall we start nick,little Jimmy krankie will not win a second vote on the referendum ( and she knows it).
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